Retired Farmer Plans Hitler Memorial

[DoYouEverWonder]

June 14, 2006

MILLARD, Wis. -- A retired farmer who says he served in a branch of a German paramilitary unit in World War II is turning some of his property into a memorial to Adolf Hitler.

Ted Junker, 87, plans a grand opening June 25 and says his goal is to clear up what he says are inaccuracies about the war and Hitler's role in it.

"I like the U.S.," he said. "I can't understand why people don't know the truth. This is for understanding, not hate."

Junker said the memorial is in a concrete structure in the side of a hill and has a German flag and other items for display.

Kathy Heilbronner, assistant director of the Milwaukee Jewish Council for Community Relations, described Junker as a classic Holocaust denier. She said he chooses to ignore the ample evidence of the Holocaust.

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sns-ap-hitler-memorial,0,4086791.story?coll=sns-ap-nation-headlines

Wow, I bet this will be a popular tourist destination. :sarcasm:

[Steepler0t]

1. Aww shucks

A shame raygun will never get to visit this nazi memorial, he sure liked them.



Maybe the repugs will send cheney in his place.
:sarcasm:


edit: sleepy spelling

[manic expression]

24. I'm sorry, but what is that?

Ronnie Rays was before my time.

[Steepler0t]

31. Reagan:"victims just as surely as the victims in the concentration camps."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitburg

See Reagan visit controversy part

[Art_from_Ark]

32. That's Reagan at Bitburg Cemetery

known as the final resting place for some really nasty Nazis.

[cantstandbush]

38. How was such a person allowed to come here and garner that much land?

That's my question. When my people, who never "attacked" anyone had their native lands taken away from them...and I guess given to the likes of the former Nazis?

[classysassy]

57. Why?

because he is a white guy,if a mexican planned to honor Hitler,the minutemen would build a moat and a fence around his farm.

[mitchum]

61. The CIA,, Defense Department, or the Vatican?

All three were quite accomodating toward certain Nazis after WWII

[Jed Dilligan]

66. You must know the Ramones, though, surely

"Bonzo goes to Bitburg"

[bluestateguy]

2. Does Wisconsin have an Air National Guard?

Maybe they need a target practice bombing range. Just thinking out loud.

:nuke:

[anotherdrew]

10. no no, if a bomb fell on this, it would just be an accident

just an accident, really...

[BlueIris]

25. That's kinda what I was thinking. Right after, "Man, how offensive

to Holocaust survivors and their descendants that 'memorial' will be. And what about all of the WWII veterans who are going to look at that thing? Does this man realize how insensitive he's being?" Then I smacked myself because I'd answered my own question.

[Ganja Ninja]

3. Will Bush be at the ribbon cutting?

Or will he show up later to lay a wreath?

[TroglodyteScholar]

30. If there was money to be made from it...

But no involvement with this "memorial" could benefit W like Prescott's investments in wartime Germany, so I'm sure he'll pass.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

47. Ann Coulter's next speaking engagement...

[closeupready]

49. And next book, probably

:D

[greekspeak]

4. Which RW hatemongering radio mouth will emcee the opening?

Maybe the old crap ass can get some Bushes up there, or Arnie. I understand that their immediate ancestors thought quite highly of Adolph H.

[no_hypocrisy]

5. "The truth about Hitler . . . "

"Not many many people know this, but Hitler was a terrific dancer." -- Franz Liebkind in The Producers (originally titled Springtime for Hitler by Mel Brooks)

[Mad_Dem_X]

6. LOL! I thought of that, too

"He could paint an entire apartment in one afternoon - TWO COATS!"

[bunkerbuster1]

7. "And churchill, vith hiss rotten paintings. ROTTEN!!"

Nobody ever said a bad vord about Churchill! it vass "Vin vith Vinnie!"

I love that film.

[MurrayDelph]

22. "and Churchill with his 'Narzis':

'We will defeat the Narzis.' Ve vere NAZIS!"

(As sure as the Fuhrer's name was Adolf Elizabeth Hitler)

[Bear down under]

33. Actually, his name was Adolf Schicklgruber.

Hitler was his mother's name. He thought it had more class.

[sweetheart]

29. Here's some real truth about hitler

Question 1:

If you knew a woman who was pregnant, who had 8 kids
already, three who were deaf, two who were blind, one mentally
retarded, and she had syphilis, would you recommend that she have an
abortion?


Read the next question before looking at the answer for this one.



Question 2:



It is time to elect a new world leader, and only your
vote counts. Here are the facts about the three leading
candidates.


Candidate A - Associates with crooked politicians, and
consults with astrologists. He's had two Mistresses. He also chain
smokes and drinks 8 to 10 martinis a day.


Candidate B - He was kicked out of office twice, sleeps
until noon, used opium in college and drinks a quart of whiskey
every evening.

Candidate C - He is a decorated war hero. He's a
vegetarian, doesn't smoke, drinks an occasional beer and never
cheated on his wife.


Which of these candidates would be your choice?


Decide first, no peeking, and then scroll down for the
answer.























Candidate A is Franklin D. Roosevelt.
Candidate B is Winston Churchill.
Candidate C is Adolph Hitler

[JudyM]

35. He didn't have a wife. And what's the point of your 1st question?

Not clear where you're going with this...

[sweetheart]

36. yes he did

http://www.fpp.co.uk/Hitler/docs/EvaBraun2.html

It was an email, that just challenges preconceptions, that seemed appropriate.

[knight_of_the_star]

52. Doesn't count

She was his wife for all of six hours before they did their cyanide honeymoon with a pistol sandwhich on the side.

[JudyM]

58. They weren't married. See quote from the very article you posted:

"She complained that Hitler did not spend enough time with her and that he was refusing to make her his official companion or marry her."

[sweetheart]

65. got married 1 day before he died

Realize its not in keeping with the trajectory,
but he *was* married to her.

[Frank Cannon]

42. I had to Google the first question

The answer is that you would have aborted Beethoven.

I'm not sure I get it, either.

[sweetheart]

48. Its translated from German

That's why it's a bit funny, its a German joke.

[JudyM]

59. Um, what is your point again? I'm missing it.

[DoYouEverWonder]

44. No one could out drink Churchill

Roosevelt tried once and failed.

[sweetheart]

51. Abortion question: Yes= killed Beethoven

sorry, i missed this from the bottom!! :-)

[bobthedrummer]

8. "Shrine to Hitler unnerves community" by Jennie Tunkiecz

Milwaukee Journal Sentinel

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=435393

Wisconsin had dozens of POW camps that held over 20,000 Axis POWs during WWII. Some of them "stayed".

Then there is the legacy of the PAPERCLIP Nazis (and even more) to consider, and never forget.

[warrens]

9. Wonder who he voted for in 2000 and 2004...

This is a tough one...Gore? Kerry?

[jwirr]

11. As a German American - I wish this guy would just shut the fuck

up. Hopefully no one will go to see his monstrosity.

[Critters2]

15. German American, too--and I agree wholeheartedly!

STFU! Couldn't have said it better!

[UTUSN]

12. & the "inaccuracies" would be WHAT? & why aren't the Minutemen

complaining about how this terrorist a-hole GOT INTO the country? Oh, I forgot-----they're NAZIs !!!!!11

http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2005/08/minutemen-home-for-extremists_08.html

[blackhorse]

13. I've found one of the inaccuracies!

It is in the article:

Junker said he volunteered to join the German Waffen-SS in 1940. The Waffen-SS was the fighting branch of the Nazi party's dreaded paramilitary unit, the Schutzstaffel. Commonly known as the SS, the unit acted as a special police force and was involved in some of the worst crimes committed in territory under Nazi control during World War II.

Paramilitary unit? Horse-hockey. There was nothing "para-" about it, the Waffen-SS was the fourth part of the German armed forces in the war. 1940 . . . I don't think the Germans were in Romania yet; this clown must have been in overdrive to wear the asphalt costume. Junkers had a case of stiff right arm back then and never had it cured. Sugar Creek is right to look with disgust and horror on his "display".

There are other inaccuracies in that paragraph, but the one serves to illustrate the quality at hand.

BH

[nealmhughes]

19. There were half a million Nazis in October 1940 in Romania.

They foramlly declared for the Axis in November 1940. Carol was forced out in 41 and Michael took puppet power then, but under the control of the Nazis and Iron Guard. He managed to pull off a coup against them in 1944, but Russia was still pissy against the massive aid given the Nazis in their invasion of the Soviet Union for some odd reason and still acted as if they were at war with Romania after they had retreated from the Soviet Union.
Evidently Romania valued control of all of Transylvania over anything else, and once Hitler and Mussolini had Transylvania divided between Hungary and Romania (Romania had taken it as a war prize following the First World War, where they had invaded Hungary, then were attacked by a joint Austro-Hungarian/German army and nearly all of the country fell into Central Power control. Romania wanted revanche and they got it after Bela Kun established the Communist government in Budapest, occupying Budapest and taking Trnasylvania. To make matters worse, Romania had taken a big chunk of southern Bulgaria (Dobruja) on the Black Sea after a Balkan War...Hitler gave it back to Bulgaria... Really, Romania has been pretty f.u. for a long time as regards alliances, anti-Magyar feeling, antisemitism and anti-Roma.
They do possess remarkable natural resources and cultural history. Too bad someone else has until recently decided what was "best" for the Romanian people -- that is to say the people of all of Romania, not just Romanian speaking Orthodox.
As regards the Nazi: I'd bet there are still some 80 year old vets who are spry enough to do to him what the Waffen SS did to Jews and Roma and Russians and Ukranians.

[blackhorse]

34. Couple of comments

My "Germans in Romania in 1940" comment was poorly put. I meant "German armed forces". Even then, I'm not sure when the first German units entered Romania; obviously, they were there by June 1941.

Yes, there was a substantial population of German heritage in Romania in 1940 in the Siebenbürgen, etc.

The forced conversion of the Romanians by the USSR is an interesting sidebar of the war.

BH

[davidinalameda]

14. understanding?

Hitler and the Nazis killed over 6 million people

what's there to understand?

deport this fool back to Germany and let them take care of him

[blackhorse]

16. Actually,

... while the figures will never be exactly known, I believe the six million figure refers solely to Jews. The Nazis are also believed responsible for the murder of some five million others such as Gypsies and Slavs.

As far as deporting Junkers, that is a good point. At the very least, his WWII record in the SS should be painstakingly researched for any whiff of war crimes activity.

BH

[LostinVA]

18. Correct -- this is grounds for deportation

Deport his ass somewhere.

[formercia]

21. He will find many old friends in Alberta.

One more won't make much difference...:evilgrin:

[davidinalameda]

20. I never knew that

I always thought the 6 million figure included all the victims

[LostinVA]

37. Correct -- six million Jews

Six million others -- political prisoners, Gypsies," gays, etc.

[Zynx]

40. And another 38 million in the most brutal war in human history.

Something on the order of 25 million in the Soviet Union alone.

[LostinVA]

43. Yup... the Soviets were really devastated

That theater of war was so incredibly brutal and barbaric...

[Zynx]

39. Actually it was 11 million in the death camps alone.

50 million in Europe all in.

[Biernuts]

45. But in per capita murders - Cambodia's Pol Pot

decimated about 30%. Whole numbers estimate up to about 3 million. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodia

[Zynx]

46. True, but in terms of scale, the Nazis beat everyone.

[barb162]

17. this is a sad guy and sad story

[Taverner]

23. Weren't there a lot of "boonsteppers" in WI prior to WWII?

That is German-Americans who not only supported Hitler, but went overseas to serve in American units of the German Army?

[gratuitous]

26. It's heritage not hate!

You know that someone had to say it.

And of course, it had to be me.

:spank:

[Zynx]

41. It's a fair slap at the old Confederacy.

I have no problem with equating slavery to Nazism.

[mitchum]

62. I always like to goad southern "heritage" aploogists with the fact...

that at least the Nazis came up with technological innovations. The Confederacy's only achievement was a submarine...that SANK!

I also have no problem with equating slavery to Nazism.

[Raine]

27. He's a piece of shit

and a waste of skin. x(

[godhatesrepublicans]

28. Hey why not, the country seems to be going Nazi anyway...

why are ANY of us surprised?

[zreosumgame]

50. stupid, offensive and lame, all of that and more

what this is NOT is illegal. If this is protested, I fully would expect to see the ACLU trying to enforce the Contitution for EVERYONE.

[phrenzy]

53. More Selective Application Of The Constitution At DU

Gah - Why does this happen at DU?

What part of "The only speech that needs protecting is the kind we don't like" don't you understand?

I was thinking about this the other day. I hate everything that Ann Coulter says and the damage she causes to weak minds around the country.

But, if the government tried to stop her from simply speaking or writing books, *I* would march in protest.

Same with this guy.

Freedom demands that we allow these things if for no other reason than to use our free will and reason to dismiss them.

[zreosumgame]

54. well, a bit of an over-reaction

on your part, I saw a LOT of 'what a dipshit' and such but only a couple calls for actual violence.

[pinniped]

55. They are building a library for that other war criminal in TX.

People have a thing for mass murderers.

[bobthedrummer]

56. After talks with Walworth County officials the public opening is off

because it is on private property-so his Hitler shrine being open to the public on 6-25-06 is now a private event.

Upthread there was a question asking about pre-WWII Nazi support from the German ethnic community-that is a fact, and there is a legacy related to it today.

[mitchum]

60. The only good Nazi is a dead Nazi

[hedgehog]

63. Just consider who is likely to show up at the memorial.

Skinheads and neo-Nazis. Junker will have to put up with them and it will give the FBI a nice chance to take pictures of home grown terrorists.

[SlavesandBulldozers]

64. "take pictures of home grown terrorists. . .

for recruitment purposes".