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Sat Nov-22-03 03:08 AM
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Medicare Bill Defeated!!!!!! |
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Edited on Sat Nov-22-03 04:01 AM by girl gone mad
Latest tally:
YEA NAY NV REPULICAN 204 25 DEMOCRAT 12 192 1 INDEPENDENT 1 TOTALS 216 218 1
We won!
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Sat Nov-22-03 03:10 AM
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1. ...Holding my breath...................eom |
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Sat Nov-22-03 10:04 AM
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97. THE HEADLINE YOU SEE IS INCORRECT. BILL PASSED 220-215 (n/t) |
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Sat Nov-22-03 10:19 AM
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It did pass. I had a bit of hope there for a minute though, what a tease.
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Sat Nov-22-03 03:11 AM
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and still holding my breath
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Sat Nov-22-03 03:12 AM
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don't make me call a paramedic!
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Sat Nov-22-03 03:15 AM
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10. 911 what is your emergency |
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a DUer is holding thier breath over the medicare bill
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Sat Nov-22-03 03:11 AM
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That's what Tom DeLay is for. Don't celebrate until it clears 218
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Sat Nov-22-03 03:17 AM
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12. Now we are on Delay time |
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Sat Nov-22-03 03:12 AM
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bitch slap Bush and his handlers.
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Sat Nov-22-03 03:14 AM
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6. I suspect that there are few Republicans that want their |
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retired constituents knowing that they are voting funds for the Trojan Horse that will destroy Medicare. The geezers only have one thing to do all day long on the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November. And it isn't wash day.
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Sat Nov-22-03 03:39 AM
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31. They take the AARP VOTE seriously |
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more seriously than the president of the organization. They all know about members burning their cards and it's serious to them. AARP has a massive voter turnout - 85% in my area. People take and return calls not just to the organization, but to members. It's voting clout. These truly are people who are hiring and firing these legislators. They take them seriously.
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Sat Nov-22-03 03:15 AM
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7. So when will the Repugs try it again? |
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And what will happen to AARP in the meantime?
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Sat Nov-22-03 03:28 AM
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is screwed. At least the leadership. They've sold out seniors and they won't recover from this for many years, if ever. Their conflict of interest story is spreading like the plague. The membership losses will decimate the organization.
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Sat Nov-22-03 03:15 AM
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Sat Nov-22-03 03:20 AM
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Sat Nov-22-03 03:25 AM
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Sat Nov-22-03 03:15 AM
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9. Which side is standijng up? eom |
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Sat Nov-22-03 03:28 AM
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Sat Nov-22-03 03:15 AM
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I'd just about resigned myself to it passing.
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Sat Nov-22-03 03:21 AM
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10 republicans and 11 democrats left to vote
7 democrats yea 27 repubs nay
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Sat Nov-22-03 03:26 AM
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Sat Nov-22-03 03:25 AM
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Yea: 196 republican; 8 democratic nay: 25 republican; 186 democratic; 1 independent total yea: 207 total nay: 212
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Sat Nov-22-03 03:27 AM
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18. WOW 25 defectors...............LOL eom |
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Sat Nov-22-03 03:30 AM
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Did that ....Daschle vote yea? |
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Is there a list of who voted what?
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Sat Nov-22-03 03:30 AM
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23. Did that ....Daschle vote yea? |
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Is there a list of who voted what?
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Sat Nov-22-03 03:32 AM
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24. This is the House vote |
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Sat Nov-22-03 03:35 AM
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28. Thanks. I just realized these aren't Senate numbers. |
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And then there was talk of Delay. It is soooo time for bed.
But if the House is rebelling against Delay, well, I can't sleep. My stomach is in knots and I don't have c-span.
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Sat Nov-22-03 04:20 AM
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52. You can get C-Span on the internet |
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Go to www.c-span.org Choose c-span1 from the left column, and on the right side of the page, select real player or windows media player.
You'll REALLY enjoy starting to use this free service!
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Sat Nov-22-03 03:34 AM
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It's a house vote not senate.
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Sat Nov-22-03 03:27 AM
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Sat Nov-22-03 03:29 AM
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4 R's and 8 Dems not voting. Wait another Repub Aye vote, 210-213 now
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Sat Nov-22-03 03:33 AM
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25. I'm updating the tally at the top |
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My heart is racing now.. didn't think it would be this close. Then again, I didn't think we could win.
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Sat Nov-22-03 03:34 AM
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26. I really didn't either |
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I thought this was a done deal. In fact I kinda thought it was gonna be a ball and chain topic for the Repubs come the election. Maybe not.
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Sat Nov-22-03 03:37 AM
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29. Either way it will be a ball and chain, IMO |
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A huge defeat for Bush if it fails, and a bill seniors will be very angry about if it passes.
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Sat Nov-22-03 03:42 AM
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Though as a "Bush defeat", while it has an effect that effect will be short-lived IMHO. Bad legislation lives forever, stalking you, haunting you, calling you at all hours of the night ;-)
No matter. Like you, I am feeling good over this one. Even if they pass it it cuts their throats and it'll be gutted before it does too much damage.
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Sat Nov-22-03 03:38 AM
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30. Maybe the realization that AARP couldn't deliver its membership |
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Made them just a trifle nervous.
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Sat Nov-22-03 03:43 AM
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It's the membership\voters stupid! :)
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Sat Nov-22-03 03:44 AM
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34. anybody has the Jeopardy theme in the background? |
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Sat Nov-22-03 03:46 AM
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35. It's all up to those 7 dems now. n/t |
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Sat Nov-22-03 03:49 AM
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37. 218. It's over!!!!!!! |
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Sat Nov-22-03 03:49 AM
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Sat Nov-22-03 03:51 AM
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38. history folks we just watched history |
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the house just rejected it
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Sat Nov-22-03 03:53 AM
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42. Wow! This is kind of like the Falcons going to the Superbowl! |
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Sat Nov-22-03 03:51 AM
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Put that in your crack pipe and smoke it Dumbya!!
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Sat Nov-22-03 03:51 AM
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40. thank you, girl gone mad! |
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for giving this great gift to those of us relying on your updates!
excellent!!
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Sat Nov-22-03 03:56 AM
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43. You are more than welcome. |
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Boy was I getting nervous towards the end! Whoever said politics isn't exciting?
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Sat Nov-22-03 04:09 AM
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you did a great thing here. everyone did, thanks all!
peace!
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Sat Nov-22-03 04:26 AM
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55. can you tell what is happening now? |
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Sat Nov-22-03 03:52 AM
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Tonight, in the dead of night, the Senate stopped the energy bill, and the house didn't obey Delay.
Is it a full moon? What's going on here?
Perhaps I can sleep now.
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Sat Nov-22-03 04:02 AM
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45. Um, they haven't dropped the gavel yet |
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Sat Nov-22-03 04:02 AM
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44. Gavel still not laid down |
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And someone just changed their vote. 216-218 now. Is this not over yet?
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Sat Nov-22-03 04:10 AM
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47. This is tom delay for you |
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I wonder what he is telling them right at the moment
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Sat Nov-22-03 04:13 AM
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48. God he sure lives up to his name |
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Sat Nov-22-03 04:14 AM
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49. Never mind Tom. Who's talking to OUR defectors? |
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And I do so hope to see a primary challenge for every bloody one of them.
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Sat Nov-22-03 04:17 AM
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50. For the moment we nee to retake the house and the senate |
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reality is, if we retake the WH but we do nto retake the house and the senate, I can guarantee an impeachment
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Sat Nov-22-03 04:27 AM
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56. In wartime? Hahahahha |
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Yeah, once we get the White House, we get to use the same bullshit tactics they're using right now. FUCK them.
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Sat Nov-22-03 04:20 AM
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51. Hastert is leaving it open.. |
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I don't think Delay will get any of those conservative R's to switch, but he could be promisong something to the D's. Hopefully Pelosi is working on our defectors..
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Sat Nov-22-03 04:23 AM
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So far the vote is 216 yeas and 218 nays with one person not voting.
I don't know how much longer this can go on, I guess until they dismiss the session.
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Sat Nov-22-03 04:36 AM
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59. For the record this is the longest |
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15 minute vote I have ever seen
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Sat Nov-22-03 04:23 AM
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53. girl gone mad, I gave up after Nancy Pelisi gave her closing speech. |
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I didn't believe they had the votes! I was SHOCKED when I saw your post.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!! :hi: :hi:
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Sat Nov-22-03 04:29 AM
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57. I am stunned beyond belief! Good news! |
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Sat Nov-22-03 04:32 AM
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58. Earlier tonight, either Charles Rangel or Pete Stark |
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pointed out that it's a crime that the Republicans kept the vote on this bill and the debate out until it was late, late, late at night, and almost ALL of the country would be sleeping.
On edit:
Anyone conscious who would have heard the speeches from the Democrats, and the Republicans wouldn't have to be a rocket scientist to see exactly what kind of scam they're running.
Hope there's a transcript available soon. It will have some intensely searing remarks from the Democrats, and truly lame, sly, pompous, and utterly deceptive yammering from the Republicans. As several of the Democrats said, SHAME, SHAME, SHAME.
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Sat Nov-22-03 04:38 AM
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Just tuned in. What's going on? Still 216 218. What goes? Is there a possibility this will pass? Heaven help us.
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Sat Nov-22-03 04:41 AM
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Nobody reads the Saturday papers.
Bad news is always dumped on Friday night.
Bastards know these bills are lemons.
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Sat Nov-22-03 04:42 AM
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this is the longest 15 minute vote I have ever seen
Damn it, it should dawn on Delay, IT IS OVER, he ain't gonna get it
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Sat Nov-22-03 04:49 AM
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65. And Delay will keep them past dawn if he has to. |
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It will be his personal triumph.
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Sat Nov-22-03 04:55 AM
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67. Folks are gonna be going to bed, though. |
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People are going to get frustrated and just leave. Once all the nay votes leave, that's it. There'd be nothing he could do.
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Sat Nov-22-03 04:46 AM
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The vote isn't over till the gavel comes down... and they're not going to put it down until they win. They've been working to either bring over some of the rePUKE defectors or the Dems to the "yea" side for AN HOUR AND A HALF... and counting. It's now 4:45 AM, eastern time. The vote started at 3:00 AM.
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Sat Nov-22-03 04:47 AM
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Never thought I'd see the day they deserted ol' Lockstep DeLay.
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Sat Nov-22-03 04:53 AM
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66. Looks like Pelosi is keeping that one Dem NV |
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just loaded there, as insurance in case Delay tries succeeds in pulling his funny stuff. Assuming that NV would go to us, Delay needs to win over 2 yeas to nays.
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Sat Nov-22-03 04:59 AM
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68. let's put a hex on Delay |
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hex on you hex on you
coffee & doughnuts in the lobby, just bang that gavel
Doughnuts Doughnuts Tom, you know you love em, your feeling hungry, thirsty, oh oh, you better go to the bathroom soon, full bladder, bang that gavel,
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Sat Nov-22-03 05:00 AM
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69. 5:00 EST and still 216-218 |
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Edited on Sat Nov-22-03 05:16 AM by Buns_of_Fire
That sound you DON'T hear on C-SPAN is the bones cracking as DeLay is putting the squeeze on those 25 Republicans.
on edit: yes, I really do know that "squeeze" is only spelled with three "e"s...
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Sat Nov-22-03 05:03 AM
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70. I hope this night destroys him. |
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I hope the ghosts of men who died saving his worthless life walk beside him every minute whispering, "Not worth it" in his ears.
What the Republicans have done is nothing less than plot the premature deaths of millions of Americans.
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Sat Nov-22-03 05:10 AM
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72. If he loses this, it could. |
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Edited on Sat Nov-22-03 05:13 AM by BullGooseLoony
He's Bush's protector in the House...if he can't keep his own party in line there, he's not going to have a happy chimp on his hands. And YOU know what happens when chimps get angry...
Thrown feces.
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Sat Nov-22-03 05:04 AM
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71. Think about it, this will be a huge |
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defeat for george and delay
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Sat Nov-22-03 05:22 AM
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73. An hour and forty minutes until Washington Journal starts |
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Delay better hurry the hell up. Impotent clown.
People have had enough of Bush's corporate whoring. He pushed it too far.
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Sat Nov-22-03 05:23 AM
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74. The "C-Span lady" just said that if the bill passes |
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it will be taken up later today in the Senate.
Sure wish that one outstanding Rep. would vote "Nay" for his/her conscience's sake.
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Sat Nov-22-03 05:32 AM
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75. i have to move to the new thread |
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=756644this one takes too long to refresh now. i don't understand what's happening, but can't ask here. sigh. thank you, again, girl gone mad! peace, all!
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Sat Nov-22-03 05:38 AM
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with no change. I hope they get the message soon.
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Sat Nov-22-03 05:44 AM
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for all the hungry congresspeople bacon frying, egg, toast, coffee. mmm, smell the coffee, hash browns, pancakes, maple syrup.
just bang that ole gavel, c'mon, fresh orange juice in the lobby,
EggMcmuffin
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Sat Nov-22-03 05:54 AM
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Sat Nov-22-03 05:53 AM
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78. They just announced 220 ayes and 215 noes |
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Some people changed their votes.
They are insisting they won.
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Sat Nov-22-03 05:54 AM
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80. According to the Speaker, "The Ayes Have It" nt |
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Sat Nov-22-03 05:55 AM
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81. Measure approved. 220-215. |
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Sat Nov-22-03 05:57 AM
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For what?? To reconsider?
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Sat Nov-22-03 05:59 AM
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86. No, this is on whether to table (kill) the motion to reconsider. |
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Sat Nov-22-03 05:57 AM
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Sat Nov-22-03 05:57 AM
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84. was the reason that the total number of votes one less during previous |
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voting that the speaker hadn't voted yet?
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Sat Nov-22-03 05:59 AM
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85. This is a horrible bill . . . . |
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What is happening to our country?? The right is selling out to big business . . . pharmaceutical companies will never go down on prices now, never!!! My god, I hope they reconsider this!!
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Sat Nov-22-03 06:01 AM
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87. They just announced on CBS radio news that the Republicans won |
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Said the bill is "loaded with give-aways for drug companies."
Oh, really?
Jeez, if ONLY this could be reversed.
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Sat Nov-22-03 06:13 AM
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88. The motion to reconsider has been tabled, 210-193. |
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DOUBLE :puke: They gaveled THIS one quick enough...
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Sat Nov-22-03 06:16 AM
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89. Maybe we oughta change the title of this thread. |
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I'm pretty goddamn pissed about this.
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Sat Nov-22-03 06:39 AM
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91. At least it still has to make it past the Senate |
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It depends now on how much spine the Dems choose to show there and how quickly they want to go home for Thanksgiving.
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Sat Nov-22-03 06:28 AM
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90. It'll be interesting to find out who the three quislings are |
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220-215
Probably a couple of pukes hanging on for extra favors from DeLay.
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Sat Nov-22-03 06:42 AM
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92. i wouldn't doubt that. |
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Sat Nov-22-03 07:17 AM
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94. Jerks. They need to get some e-mails. |
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Sat Nov-22-03 07:12 AM
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93. WE MUST FLOOD THE SENATE WITH MESSAGES DEMANDING THE DEFEAT THIS |
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Sat Nov-22-03 07:55 AM
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95. What an awful roller coaster! |
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I just got up and read the whole thread. It sounded just like a really bad election night, where you eat breakfast not sure if you have a hangover or are still drunk.
The silver lining is that there are several Republicans who for one reason or anther had courage, if only for a moment. This means some of them will have guilt for failing the country; maybe next time they will do what is right.
Maybe Delay’s pesticide use will catch up with him, I know that there are roaches which have become tolerant of pesticides and can survive even the highest concentrations of them. Delay looks like he is in that strain, we can hope anyway.
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Sat Nov-22-03 11:45 AM
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101. The conservatives held out |
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Because they thought the bill was too nice to the American people and didn't do enough to emasculate Medicare, I thought.
I went to bed at 5:15. I knew I'd wake up to a loss.
The Democrats who betrayed us need to feel it.
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Sat Nov-22-03 09:10 AM
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what do you think the Rep leadership promised to those Republican flip floppers to convince them to switch ? -CV
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Sat Nov-22-03 10:13 AM
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98. 2 votes switched due to call from Bu**sh** |
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According to a guy from National Journal on C-SPAN, the two Republican votes that switched from nay to yea were a freshman Franks (?) from Arizona and a 2-3 termer Otter (?) from Idaho who held out until the last minute. They switched after receiving a personal call from the prez.
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Sat Nov-22-03 12:02 PM
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102. This headline is incorrect..... |
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