US Issues al-Qaeda Warning

[pippin]

"The United States has issued a new worldwide alert about the danger of possible terrorist attacks.

The US State Department said there were growing indications that al-Qaeda militants were preparing to strike American interests abroad . . .he United States has issued a new worldwide alert about the danger of possible terrorist attacks.

The US State Department said there were growing indications that al-Qaeda militants were preparing to strike American interests abroad . . .We also cannot rule out that al-Qaeda will attempt a second catastrophic attack within the US."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3228440.stm

BBC News
Saturday, 22 November, 2003, 02:31 GMT

amber alert! amber alert! . . .and * says we're not responsible?

[Rose Siding]

1. It's a safe bet

warning about regular, near daily occurances.

It'll rise in the east today!! :dunce:

[saigon68]

9. They want to scare the old people

To Vote for the Chimpanzee, because he is doing a good job fighting terror.

[tabasco]

2. We should have done the job right in Afghanistan

10th MTN DIV on one end of Tora Bora, 82d ABN on the other, send a brigade through the valley to really find the bastards. But instead, we relied on our hired warlords and trusted the Pakistanis to seal off the escape routes. Uh huh, worked great didn't it Rummy? The incompetent and malignant administration was already focused on invading Iraq, which posed no threat to our national security. They cared more about invading Iraq than they did destroying Al Qaeda. That's why Al Qaeda is alive and well. Of course, Peter Pace says Osama doesn't matter anymore. Let's see what he says when Al Qaeda makes their next strike in America. People who believe the propaganda that we are more safe in America because of the actions of this administration are living in lala land.

[9215]

8. Easier way of getting them

Find out who in the CIA is the puppetmaster of Al Qaeda and turn him/them over to the US troops getting their shit blown away in Iraq. I'll bet those troops would get answers real quick!

[leesa]

12. It's Bush, not Al Quaeda causing the problems...doubtful Al Quaeda

had anything to do with 9-11. My first guess would be Bush Co. and the Saudi government.

[radwriter0555]

3. THERE IS NO AL QUEDA.

Don't exist.

[Skip Intro]

4. I'm starting to suspect the same thing

[cthrumatrix]

5. correct...there is a "group" that uses al quaeda to control the sheeple

and control and agenda ....people need to start asking the tough questions..

how did they get photo's adn names of 911 hi jackers when they were not on the passnger list and we were told they used "fake id's" to board...how would you know who they were 24 hours later...with photos in the paper?

[metisnation]

14. seems odd

Unless they were watching them very closely and had a lot of time to gather information

[Nlighten1]

6. It exists all right.

As a convenient tool for this Administration to throw around when ever they need political cover. Other than that it is a ghost story.

[Whoa_Nelly]

7. It's just a rearranged acronym

for "A QA Deal" (another Quality Assurance deal brought to you by the BFEE and the PNAC).

[0007]

10. Lot a chatter, more than usual chatter, heaps of chatter.....

how do we know what this chatter means? Take my word for it, it is quantity type chatter. Either you're with us or against us type of chatter.

We have chatter experts ya know!

[Dirk39]

15. Al Quaeda exists...

it's a political movement, just like the neocons, but they have far more grassroot-support. And its' structures are simply different from the way, they are represented in our media and from our governments.
They are not seen as terrorists in large parts of the world - if we or you or I - like it or not.
And Al Quaeda fighters were responsible for the attacks against the WTC as much as they were responsible for the attacks in Turkey. Do you really think, the neocons and their supporters in the CIA and the pentagon would ever offend a world-leading bank? Or the kind of companies, who did their buiz in the WTC? I believe everything, but I don't believe this!
Al Quaeda was founded by the CIA, but it has become an independant force. If not, they would bomb schools in Harlem or the Bronx, not symbols of freedom and democrazy. Just as cynical as the world we live in...
Hello from Germany,
Dirk

[Media_Lies_Daily]

17. Responses...

You stated the following:

"Al Quaeda exists...it's a political movement, just like the neocons, but they have far more grassroot-support. And its' structures are simply different from the way, they are represented in our media and from our governments. They are not seen as terrorists in large parts of the world - if we or you or I - like it or not."

***We're being TOLD by the U.S. that Al Qaeda exists because it's easier to get Americans to believe that one agency controls a giant worldwide network. Remember what they used to tell us about International Communism and their desire to subjugate the world? IMHO, it's the same line of thought with different names.


You went on to say:

"And Al Quaeda fighters were responsible for the attacks against the WTC as much as they were responsible for the attacks in Turkey."

***In some circles, that has become highly questionable. IMHO, based on what's been found so far in Afghanistan and Iraq, Al Qaeda simply did not have the capability to control an operation like 9/11. Too many reports have surfaced indicating that some of the 9/11 hijackers had attended U.S. military schools in Pensacola, FL and Montgomery, AL. The people in Turkey have been pissed off at their government for quite some time...and they are decidely not happy with being allied a large country that is using its military to kill Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan.


And then you said the following:

"Do you really think, the neocons and their supporters in the CIA and the pentagon would ever offend a world-leading bank? Or the kind of companies, who did their buiz in the WTC? I believe everything, but I don't believe this!"

***Why is that so far-fetched? The Bushies neded their "Pearl Harbor", and it was delivered


And finally, you stated:

"Al Quaeda was founded by the CIA, but it has become an independant force. If not, they would bomb schools in Harlem or the Bronx, not symbols of freedom and democrazy."

***You got the first phrase correct, but then you went downhill from there. "Independent force"? Who says so? The Bushies? The U.S. news media? The Bushies needed a major act of terrorism with which Americans could identify. What better symbols than the WTC buildings and the Pentagon? And the pay-off in terms of oil was expected to be very big...enough to satisfy the momentary anger of the banks and businesses.

[Dirk39]

19. Just some thoughts,

to make my position more clear, although I don't own the truth.
In a way, both: the people, who really believe, there was a conspiracy behind sept. 11, and the neocons, share the same illusions about a perfectly controlled world. Whatever happens, it is done on purpose. This really responds to our desire for security.
Just take a look at PNAC now, it simply fails.
This whole thing reminds me of the paranoia and hysteria that happened in Germany, during the existence of the RAF. The left believed in a perfectly organized police-state, while on the other hand, our government and the media advertised the illusion of the RAF as perfectly organized terrorists, masterminds of evil, who tried to destroy "freedom" and "democrazy". The truth: on both sides, there were people, who made 100s of mistakes. The police and the secret service just failed miserable, while on the other hand the "terrorists" couldn't believe, what they could do without being revealed.
Human beings in general rather believe in a devil, who controls the world, than to believe, that noone is in full control.
Dirk

[leesa]

11. And the world says "Thanks Bush, you fool!"

Do you think it will dawn on the dunderhead chickenhawks in this country that what they are doing is making things INFINITELY worse??

[SilasSoule]

13. I hope I'm not the only one creeped out by

timing of this warning. Specifically when it is juxtaposed against Yesterday's warning by Gen Franks that martial law is a given should there be a WMD attack.

[54anickel]

16. And now the UK with their own Patriot act and red alert

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=235981

[Rex]

18. Such an interesting title

Didn't know the U.S. was issuing terrorist threats...from Al Qaeda. Yeah, that's the ticket.

[Starfire_Sangraal]

20. Would The Real Al Qaeda, Please, Step Forward?

... as I`m getting pretty confused already. :shrug:


*THIS* Al Quaeda?




Reportedly, the gentlemen above are all Mossad Operatives caught with their pants down trying to pass by Al Quaeda in Palestine... Draw your own conclusions. :eyes:

Sources:

Mossad Exposed in Phony 'Palestinian Al-Qaeda' Caper

http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2002/2949idf_qaeda.html


By Way of Deception, by Justin Raimondo

http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j120902.html


khilafah.com - PA uncovers Israelis posing as Al-Qaeda

http://www.khilafah.com/home/category.php?DocumentID=8238&TagID=7


Palestinians arrest al-Qaeda 'poseurs'

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/palestinians_arrest_al_qaeda_poseurs


Join Al-Qaeda

http://terror.onlineprod.com/dir7/join_al_qaeda.html

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Pout-Pourri- Randomly Assorted Snippets From the Archives above:

"The United States government has been provided with concrete evidence that the Israeli Mossad and other Israeli intelligence services have been involved in a 13-month effort to "recruit" an Israeli-run, phony "al-Qaeda cell" among Palestinians, so that Israel could achieve a frontline position in the U.S. war against terrorism and get a green light for a worldwide "revenge without borders" policy. The question: Does the United States have the moral fiber to investigate?"

(...)

"The revelations undermine the "big lie" that Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has used to justify new brutal attacks on Palestinian civilians in the Gaza Strip and other occupied areas. Sharon claimed on Dec. 4 that Israeli intelligence had "hard evidence" of al-Qaeda operations in the Gaza Strip. Now, the top Palestinian leadership has shown the United States and other nations how Israeli intelligence entities were creating that al-Qaeda link!"

(...)

"Palestinian officials promised to provide detailed evidence, and did so on Dec. 8, in a press conference addressed by Colonel Shbak, and by Palestinian Minister for Planning and International Cooperation Nabil Shaath. Shbak told the international representatives that, "Over the past nine months, we've been investigating eight cases in which Israeli intelligence posing as al-Qaeda operatives recruited Palestinians in the Gaza Strip." Colonel Shbak said that 3 men were under arrest, and 11 had been released."

(...)

"He explained that those released had voluntarily provided information going back to May 2002, about the contacts that had been made asking them to operate as an "al-Qaeda" group. The alleged al-Qaeda recruiters were traced to Israeli intelligence, said Colonel Shbak."

(...)

"Aside from that, however, there was something a little fishy about their recruitment methods, such as this message cited by ABC News (via Reuters):

After receiving reports from your brothers in the area about your good morals and Islamic beliefs...we appeal to you to work within the ranks of the mujahideen (Muslim fighters) and we will support you with money and weapons. Call us at this number...and identify yourself as Abu Anas. The telephone call should be made between three and five in the afternoon... After you read the letter and understand its content, burn it.

(Signed), Your brother and humble slave of God, Osama bin Laden.

Recruits to this faux-Al Qaeda were given weapons (most of them didn't work) and money provided by "Palestinian collaborators with Israel," three of whom are in a Palestinian jail. According to PLO "preventive security" chief Rashid Abu Shbak, some of the money "was transferred from bank accounts in Jerusalem or Israel."

(...)

"These revelations come in the wake of Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's claim that Al Qaeda is behind recent attacks on Israel, and is present in the occupied territories and Lebanon. A phony "Al Qaeda" website has been set up, which we are supposed to believe is the voice of the Evil One in cyberspace: its recent pronouncement that a Palestinian "branch" of Al Qaeda has been formed was duly reported by the Washington Post, which also transcribed the lamentation of one Rachel Bronson, director of Middle East Studies at the Council on Foreign Relations."

(...)

"A senior Palestinian security official claimed Saturday his services had uncovered an Israeli plot to create a mock Al-Qaeda cell in the Gaza Strip, while an Israeli official dismissed the charge as "absurd". Gaza head of preventive security Rashid Abu Shbak told journalists at a press conference that Israeli agents, posing as operatives of Osama bin Laden's terrorist group, recruited Palestinians in the Gaza Strip."

(...)

"Al-Qaeda doesn't recruit so easily and openly," Abu Shbak said. The security chief said his services had traced back to Israel cellphone calls and e-mails in which Palestinians were asked to join Al-Qaeda."

(...)

The money was provided by "Palestinian collaborators with Israel" directly to the new recruits or "was transferred from bank accounts in Jerusalem or Israel," Shbak said. "We are sure that Israel is behind this and that there are absolutely no groups such as Al-Qaeda operating here," the security chief said, adding however "we can't say there will never be Al-Qaeda here, but at least not for now."

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