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Bush_MUST_Go Donating Member (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 11:33 AM
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Belarus Orders Bush, Rice Assets To Be Frozen

June 26, 2006 -- Belarusian authorities said today they will freeze any assets that U.S. President George W. Bush and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice may hold in the country.


http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2006/06/be1781e7-6dbe-4276-ba93-edc572af5048.html



Typical hypocrisy by bush. He's worried about the integrity of elections only when he's not manipulating them himself for his own ends.

I doubt he has money on Belarus but I like the message this sends & hope other countries follow the lead.
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 11:42 AM
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1. You are correct.
Good message. :thumbsup:
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 11:45 AM
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2. Bush doesn't like it when "the people" vote for candidates he doesn't like
Hamas was democratically elected by the people.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was democratically elected by the people.

True democracy in the Middle East is what we're supporting right? Except in Saudi Arabia.
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jerry611 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 11:55 AM
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5. And Americans elected George W. Bush (twice)
And Germans elected Hitler...

Just because the people made the choice, doesn't mean it is the right choice. Democracy doesn't always work. Sometimes the people choose the person that really isn't in the best interests of the people or the country. I can't begin to tell you how many times this has happened in history.

Ahmadinejad stated that the holocaust is nothing but a jewish conspiracy and wants to blast Israel off the face of the earth. I don't give a damn if the people elected him or not, that right there is insanity and the free world has a duty to stop him.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 11:59 AM
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6. I don't believe Americans elected Bush ever
And I hope you will get a chance to look over the literature. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. just examined the 2004 election in Rolling Stone magazine, and the 2000 election is analyzed succinctly in the small book "None Dare Call It Treason" by Vincent Bugliosi.
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benddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 12:04 PM
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8. agree
a lot of idiots voted for * but if the votes were ever fully counted...we'd have Gore in his second term.
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unda cova brutha Donating Member (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 03:15 PM
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24. * was selected, not elected!
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 12:01 PM
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7. Correction - the American Voting Machines elected *
anyone who actually casted a vote for * is not an American, why would someone that loves America vote for someone who is out to destroy America, nope those f*cksticks aren't American :crazy:
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jerry611 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 12:09 PM
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11. In the words of Winston Churchill and George Washington
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."
-Churchill

"Asking the people to choose the President would be like asking a blind man to choose colors."
-Washington

Even if the voting machines were tainted. Even if the election was a farce. It still doesn't change the fact that tens of millions of Americans voted for Bush. Why? Because Democrats fell into the trap that Karl Rove set. He turned it into a liberal vs. conservative election. And in 2008, he will attempt to do the exact same thing.

When the election becomes liberal vs. conservative... it creates a polarization. When means even people that don't like Bush will come out and vote for him just to make sure that the liberal doesn't win. In other words, vote for the lesser of two evils.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 12:15 PM
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13. The machines were tainted and if they weren't Gore would be in
his second term, the only votes that counted was the SCOTUS 5-4 votes. So it really wouldn't have matter what Turd Blossom cooked up with the "Libruls" vs the Jesusfreaks, the machines decided a close election that would have gone Gore's way - the way of the intentions by the public(blind man).
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davekriss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 12:42 PM
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17. You are right in that...
...the Rovian Wurlitzer was able to manufacture support for Bush through the monopolistic major media. Enough people voted for Bush to make victory in 2000 and 2004 plausible. But, even with manufactured support and controlled perceptions, it still took a corrupt Secretary of State, a brown-shirted riot in Dade county, 90,000 "felons" removed from the voting rolls, and one of the most laughable 5-4 decisions from the SCOTUS ever; and in 2004 it took a large installed base of black box voting devices, nullification of exit polls by the major media, challenge and intimidation at the polls, shenanigans with registration lists, and disproportionate allocation of voting equipment.

In other words, it is simply evil, a theft, and not (as you say) a "vote for the lesser of two evils".

I think 2006 will be a very interesting mid-term. My guess is Republican majorities miraculously hold in both houses, legitimized not by exit polls, but by another false narrative spewed forth from the major media. I'm not even thinking about 2008 yet.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 02:49 PM
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22. There is NO WAY IN HELL that "tens" of millions voted for *!
Perhaps you need to read up on how * & Co stole 2 elections. Namely via diebold and voter disenfranchisement. That and a few crooked governors and judges and they put the most evil regime in power since Hitler. :puke:
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davekriss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 12:27 PM
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14. America did not elect GWB
We had a bloodless coup on December 12 2000 and if you believe that a 1-billion-to-1 shot came true in 2004 -- i.e., exit polls woefully wrong, just a coincidence that Ohio voting lines in democratic precincts were up to 7 hours long while just 15 minutes in Republican precincts, etc. -- then I have a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn.

RE: "Ahmadinejad stated...". Iranians can vote, true, but only for the limited number of candidates approved by their religious oligarchy. Americans, too, can vote, but only for the limited number of candidates approved by our economic oligarchy. Iranian oligarchy endangers Iranians; American oligarchy endagers the whole world. It is we, not Ahmadinejad, who spend more on our military machine than the next 38 nations combined. It is we, not Ahmadinejad, who have garrisoned the world over with bombs and bullets and troops. It is we, not Ahmadinejad, who illegally and immorally invade other nations on the slippery, unchecked-unbalanced doctrine of "sufficient threat". Ahmadinejad is a windbag; George Bush is a windbag with power.

It is not our duty to stop Admadinejad from spouting off nonesense. And if insanity were a sufficient cause for regime change, then we should be removing Bush, Cheney, Rice, and Rumsfeld from office this instant.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 03:06 PM
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23. EXCELLENT expression of an objective perspective.
Thank you!!!!

Thank you. :patriot:
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 12:36 PM
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15. bu$h was put into office by 5 Supreme Court Justices-he didn't win.
2004 theft was orchestrated the GOP. I hope you read some of the articles/books published on the subject. RFK Jr article in Rolling Stone is a great starting point and there are multiple reference in it if you are interested in exploring in depth.
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Bush_MUST_Go Donating Member (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 12:49 PM
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18. I believe the Palestinian & Iranian elections were cause & effect.
People in those countries were much more worried about the nuts running America than they were worried about shifting towards democracy.

America's Neocon govt. begat the fundamentalist governments.

I believe if bush had concentrated his efforts on a real peace plan in Israel instead of nation building in a secular Iraq, people in the Middle East would have thought America was working to end terrorism.

bush wanted a Crusades & he got what he wanted.
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 01:35 PM
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20. Hmm...where to start..
1. Hitler wasn't elected. He was appointed Chancellor by von Hindenburg.

2. Is it the duty of the US to judge which "democratically elected" leader is acceptable to us? Speaking of "how many times this has happened in history", one instance comes to mind. In the early 50s the people of Iran democratically elected a guy named Mossedegh. He was pretty progressive, but we didn't like him, mainly because he nationalized the oil companies. So we sent Elliot Roosevelt and the CIA and they deposed him and put (our guy) the Shah in his place. Leading to many years of torture, secret police and such, and ultimately, to the Ayatollah Kohmeni(sp?). Yeah, we're really good at that sort of thing.

3. According to Juan Cole, Ahmadinejad did not say Israel should be wiped off the map. He was quoting someone else's statement that the Israeli government (or its current leaders) were a failed regime and would eventually be replaced (presumably by one more moderate).

One is free to agree or disagree with that statement, but that one is permitted to raise the issue is not in dispute, IMO.

As to Ahmadinejad's alleged holocaust denial statement, I can't speak to that, as I don't know what he actually said (that is, a valid quote from the Farsi). If he did say such a thing, it would qualify as insane, in my opinion.

However, if we "took out" every world leader who said something insufferable, or even insane, then someone would have dropped a MOAB on the Boy-King long ago.
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 11:46 AM
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3. If they didn't have assets/money there, their government could not
freeze them. Therefore, I assume they DO have assets in that country.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 12:07 PM
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10. Actually,
They said they were going to freeze any assets... not that they had frozen any. I don't know that this necessarily means that such assets exist.
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doc mercer Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 11:49 AM
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4. Belarus

I believe Bush left behind 6 of his favorite bongs last time he visited so that is a start
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 12:07 PM
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9. Bush left his cuff links on Condi's nightstand the last time they visited
Belarus.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 12:12 PM
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12. Bush would never let protestors camp out for three months here.
Our protestors go to protest pins then to jail.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 12:42 PM
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16. Lukashenka is a pretty nasty character
The fact is that he really is as bad as Dr. Rice says he is.

He and the Frat Boy deserve each other's company.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 01:10 PM
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19. Yeehaw! I doubt they have any assets there but I love that they did it.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 02:16 PM
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21. k&r, it's the principal that counts.
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 03:22 PM
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25. HAHAHAHA
I love the messages behind this action. It wont accomplish anything, but I love it.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 03:31 PM
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26. If only more world leaders would follow suit, the war criminal
does deserve his assests to be frozen.

Bush's responsible for more terrorists than bin laden.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 03:32 PM
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27. yes, keep freezing their assets
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 03:33 PM
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28. FREEZE THEIR ASSES!!! HAHAHAHA!!!
Oh...assets....well, that's good, too.
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