US Continues to Humiliate Iraqis

[leftchick]

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/87345F0A-10D1-440C-B643-6BF0D5C4C4CB.htm

<snip>Pictures of US soldiers searching young girls on their way to class have provoked renewed international outrage.

Exclusive photos show US-led occupation forces frisking schoolgirls – a move condemned by the girls’ parents and international human rights organisations alike.

One father, Abu Muhammad, told Aljazeera.net on Sunday that if he ever hears his daughter has been touched by American soldiers again, he would “not be responsible for the consequences�.

“This humiliation has got to end now. I refuse to live like this. I’d rather die and I’ll take a few soldiers with me – and that’s a promise, not a threat.�

[Mountainman]

1. Searches were done in Vietnam to women that worked at U S bases.

But Vietnamese women not soldiers conducted the search.

The more the soldiers fear for their lives the more drastic their means of protection. In this case it may lead to more soldier's deaths.

War gets to the point were survival is all you think about and the thought that you may be humiliating someone doesn't enter your mind or if it does you don't consider it because you are trying to protect yourself.

We need to get out of Iraq ASAP. This is turning into a no win situation for both sides. The longer we are there the worse it will get. We are not winning the hearts and minds of the Iraqis. They see us as an occupier of their country not as liberators.

[saigon68]

2. This is Nice---I wouln't tolerate that shit here

Winning hearts and minds.

Rent the movie "Red Dawn". It explains a lot.

[coralrf]

17. Movie???

I have never seen a movie that close to the real experience. If you have “been there" how can you suggest such a thing?

Did you ever see a young face go ashen right after the last breath on a movie? Have you ever seen a movie cover the fear you get when your partner gets a 'dear John' or bad news from home? Has a movie explored the sickness felt as you watch a young man die and realize that he will not restore that '57 Chevy, get that degree or start that good job he was telling you about just last night? Do movies get the 'pain to anger' thing right? Have you ever seen a man pushed back 20 feet by a bullet or spew blood from a chest wound? You can see that 'in the movies'.

Movies are fucking vile propaganda. They are for one purpose: "give ‘em what they want and get the bucks". They promote war and murder. Ever see a good 'snuff' in a movie. No no no..cause the good USA does not do that. No Sir!!!

Kill your TV before it kills you and Fuck the movies too.

[Judi Lynn]

3. If this is necessary, why haven't American soldiers done it

in other wars?

From the article:

(snip)But senior US officers continue to justify their actions, stressing children could be carrying explosives. (snip)


(snip) Central Military Command in Florida says the security of US soldiers comes before any “hearts and minds operation or the rights of Iraqi children”.

Central Command refused to comment on the latest series of pictures, but two weeks ago Major David Farlow warned Aljazeera.net not to publish similar photos on this site.(snip)

[saigon68]

5. Major David Farlow warned Aljazeera.net not to publish

I guess the military calls the shots on the foreign press now.

The picture will piss a few people off.

If they did that to my daughter---well lets just say---

[bpilgrim]

18. well maybe the soilders shouldn't be there...

in that part of town :shrug:

pull them back to base and send in the IRAQI police... whatevers left

this is NUTS and is only getting WORSE :'(

peace

[truthisfreedom]

4. picture bush with his hands on a little girl.

every time one of our soldiers touches a little girl, it's bush's hands feeling around. think about it. remember to vote.

[54anickel]

6. Ewwwww! That's a powerful visual. Worse if the girl is pictured as mine!

:puke:

[xchrom]

7. ah yes

exactly how NOT to do it.

[NNN0LHI]

8. When we are this worried about Iraqi kids the party is over n/t

[MrPrax]

9. Americans often see the rest of the world as American

and since 'body searches' are considered a litmus test of Patriotism and Citizenship in America, then why wouldn't the military assume that people elsewhere think this same way...

Feel Me Up, I'm a Patriot!
Piss Tests for Freedom!

[leftchick]

10. are children in America subjected to "body searches"?

Just wondering....I don't remember ever hearing of that happening in the US.

[NNN0LHI]

11. Never heard of it here either n/t

[Kitsune]

14. Nope, just guns to their heads.

[tom_paine]

12. Winning those hearts and minds!

And yes, as was mentioned above, not every people are as slavish as the Imperial Subjects of Amerika. Not everyone cries out "take my freedoms" at the first sign of danger.

Feel Me Up, I'm a Patriot!
Piss Tests for Freedom!

Great line and so true. Of course, many don't have the freedoms to give away...many would still envy the state of the average Imperial Subject of Amerika.

But ask that same question after the reigns of Emperors Jeb, Ahnold, and George P. Caligula, and you'll likely get another answer.

[leftchick]

13. More Pictures From Al-jazeera...... for Cripes Sakes!!!.

Forced to lie in the dust, even simple searches humiliate.





Bagging detainees is a huge source of Iraqi resentment.




......The bags on the head is just horrible! Why is that done other than to humiliate a person? I cannot imagine how awful it is for the Iraqis to go through. :grr:

[tom_paine]

15. Get used to it...they'll be bagging the heads of your great-grandchildren

ok, maybe great-great grandchildren if you're over 60.

Unless the Busheviks are stopped! NEVER GIVE UP!

[Tommy_Douglas]

16. Its not surprising individuals have seen enough...

But every time I hear a man stand up and say he'd sooner die then live this way, you know that resonates with all the countrymen that hear it.

More destruction, more death, and in the end no victory on terror for America.

[prole_for_peace]

19. it is no wonder that they want us to leave...

we are so insensitive to their culture. A man putting his hands on a female that isn't his wife or daughter??? That just isn't done or accepted by Muslims. If they MUST do this, and I don't think they do, aren't there women soldiers or even some "trusted" woman civilian that could do it instead?
:wtf: