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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:00 PM
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Bush: if Chechen Basayev killed, 'he deserved it'

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N10378398.htm

Bush: if Chechen Basayev killed, 'he deserved it'

WASHINGTON, July 10 (Reuters) - President George W. Bush on Monday said if Chechen rebel leader Shamil Basayev was killed, "he deserved it."

Russian officials said Basayev, who claimed responsibility for the bloody Beslan school siege in 2004, was killed in an operation by special forces.

"If he is in fact the person who ordered the killing of children in Beslan, he deserved it," Bush said.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:01 PM
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1. Well, that was diplomatic.
Edited on Mon Jul-10-06 04:03 PM by CottonBear
Not. :(

Edit: The deceased was a really bad person. Still, DimSon should think before he speaks.
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:02 PM
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2. Given that Shrub is in direct contact with God...
...you'd think he'd have better information.
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:03 PM
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3. Ranks in the same group as Karla Faye Tucker, George? n/t
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:05 PM
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4. And how many thousands of children's deathes have been
caused by Bush's actions?
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:05 PM
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5. Taking that statement by itself and at face value, I agree. But...
...for B*sh to publicly judge the man is a classic example of his cowboy diplomacy mentality.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:21 PM
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6. Whatever happened to 'trials' and 'justice'?
Edited on Mon Jul-10-06 04:22 PM by liberalmuse
I guess we've forgotten the past couple of centuries and are back to tribal warfare again. Nice.
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:21 PM
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7. he's right, but wrong at the same time.
IMHO, anyone that targets a school full of children deserves multiple painful deaths.

HOWEVER, the president should NOT say it, not very diplomatic.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:35 PM
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8. Nya, nya, n', nyaaa, nya!!!
Guess that told him, eh, Georgie?
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:36 PM
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9. Putin got his Osama
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:38 PM
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10. and who ordered the killing of innocent children in Iraq? On lies no less.
I thought Bush was being phased out of his " cowboy talk" by Condi in her new efforts to change the packaging.

Sounds to me he is still Marqui de Sade mode. There is no doubt he loves talking about death and destruction--even glorifying it.
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:41 PM
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11. By that defination then,
the imposter resident should also deserve it, based on the list in this post.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=2716422
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:48 PM
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12. he's right
diplomacy?

over a man who killed schoolchildren?


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Xeric Donating Member (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 05:20 PM
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13. More hypocrisy -ACPC
The American Committee for Peace in Chechnya is a branch of the PNAC cult. They have made US policy to covertly support the rebels:

"Glen Howard serves as ACPC’s executive director, and he is president of the Jamestown Foundation. Howard previously worked for Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC), a high-tech defense contractor, as a military analyst, and has served as a consultant for the Department of Defense, National Intelligence Council, and “major oil companies operating in Central Asia and the Middle East.” (3) (4)

ACPC’s board of directors is cochaired by Zbigniew Brzezinski, Alexander M. Haig, Jr., Steven J. Solarz, and Max Kampelman; and the committee’s more than one hundred members reflect a wide range of political tendencies, including such figures as Richard Gere, Morton Ambramowitz, and Geraldine Ferraro. On its membership rolls are many high-profile neoconservatives, including Richard Perle, Frank Gaffney, Elliott Abrams, Midge Decter, William Kristol, Michael Ledeen, and James Woolsey. (5)"

"ACPC’s governing committee includes a wide range of conservatives, neoconservatives, and liberal hawks, although the neoconservatives—most of whom have been associated with the Project for the New American Century—appear to be dominant. Among PNAC activists involved in ACPC are Max Kampelman, Richard Perle, Frank Gaffney, and James Woolsey."

The ACPC regarded Maskhadov as a moderate leader who could have successfully brought the Russo-Chechen war to an end because of his ability to act as a peace negotiator. ACPC says that the rebel forces don’t have links to al-Qaida, and that the U.S. should support their efforts to create an independent Chechnya. ]Whatever the facts about connections between the Chechen rebels and the al-Qaida terrorist network, the rebels certainly include Islamist fundamentalists, including those affiliated with Wahhabism. Nevertheless, ACPC supports the Chechen rebel movement, apparently as a strategy to weaken Russia and establish better U.S. ties in the region—one of increasing geopolitical value and which has vast, unexploited natural resource reserves—including rich oil, gas, and hard mineral deposits. (7) (8)
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1429

Commander Cokehead is talking out of both sides of his mouth again.
Whenever these assholes use the word peace they mean war (for profit).
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 05:36 PM
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15. B I N G O!!! Everytime I hear Putin or Smirksalot
talk about the school children, I am reminded of Pooty Poot's reaction right after the horrible event. He seemed to blame his friend, Georgy, and the press could not figure that one out.

I direct you to this article from CNN:

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/09/07/putin.us/index.html

From CNN Moscow Bureau Chief Jill Dougherty
Tuesday, September 7, 2004 Posted: 2:48 AM EDT (0648 GMT)

MOSCOW, Russia (CNN) -- Russian President Vladimir Putin has said that mid-level officials in the U.S. government were undermining his country's war on terrorism by supporting Chechen separatists, whom he compared to al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden.

Putin's charge, made in a meeting with a group of western foreign policy experts, came just days after hundreds of people, mostly children, died in the bloody end to the Beslan siege.

But Putin said each time Russia complained to the Bush administration about meetings held between U.S. officials and Chechen separatist representatives, the U.S. response has been "we'll get back to you" or "we reserve the right to talk with anyone we want."

Putin blamed what he called a "Cold War mentality" on the part of some U.S. officials, but likened their demands that Russia negotiate with the Chechen separatists to the U.S. talking to al Qaeda.
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 05:32 PM
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14. Ah; compassion rears it's head once again at the Whitehouse.
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 05:55 PM
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16. NeoCons support Chechnyan rebels
Richard Perle, Richard Pipes and Paul Wolfowitz, among others who profoundly influence Bush administration policy, support Chechen separatists as a way to further isolate Russia. Bet they're pissed about losing "the George Washington of Chechnya," Basayev.

I am skeptical about what actually lies behind Bush's official declaration of glee that Basayev has been liquidated. I guess he has to say it, given that he's going to have to do some soul-looking-into with "Pooty-poot" next week. It would be embarassing if Poot-poot had to chide him again for having double standards about what comprises "terrorism."
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 08:31 PM
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17. Wow, the Chimp actually gets one right.
Didn't think I'd ever agree with him on anything.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 11:28 PM
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18. Goes to show the old saying about a broken clock is correct n/t
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 01:43 AM
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19. 250,000 Iraqis killed by US & UK forces, over 60% children.
Guess what YOU deserve, bush.
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jerry611 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 02:18 AM
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20. Basayev directly targetted and killed 186 school children
I don't give a damn what his political message was. I don't give a damn what he was fighting for. You don't target school children. Period.

He did deserve it to get killed....
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