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Mark E. Smith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 12:45 AM
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Rep. Congressman: Impeach Bush For Violating Constitution
Edited on Tue Jul-11-06 12:46 AM by Mark E. Smith
Rep. Congressman: Impeach Bush For Violating Constitution - Not Partisan Payback

Republican Congressman Ron Paul says President Bush has presided over a doctrine of violating the Constitution at every turn and that he should be impeached - but that likely Democratic efforts to do so will be in the interests of playing politics and not the health of the nation.

During an interview with Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network, Paul outlined the likely scenario as to how impeachment proceedings would unfold.

"I'd be surprised if they win both - I think they're going to win one body and if they win the House right now they do not say they would have an impeachment but I think the way that place operates I think they will make every effort."

"If they happened to have a ten or fifteen vote margin that would be a political thing - it would be payback time."

Paul said that Bush should be impeached not under the umbrella of partisan vengeance but for ceaselessly breaking the laws of the land.

"I would have trouble arguing that he's been a Constitutional President and once you violate the Constitution and be proven to do that I think these people should be removed from office."

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2006/100706impeachbush.htm

Oh I don't know. I'll take a Bush impeachment any old way I can get it. If some Republicans should want to get bipartisan on this issue, why the hell not?
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 12:51 AM
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1. for some reason, I agree with Ron's position on the Constitution
violations of the Idiot Prez Bush ...
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Nostradammit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 12:51 AM
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2. So the republicans won't impeach him for partisan reasons only?
They'll acknowledge that his actions are unconstitutional but they won't act on it because he's a republican?

For f*ck sake...
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 12:54 AM
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3. Oh. Him. He's not a Republican, he's a nutcase who happens to agree
with us on one issue. When he's not pretending to be rational, he's a racist libertarian.

One thing I hate about all this. There are good liberals like Joe Lieberman who are right on 95% of the issues, and I wind up despising him because he's wrong on the most important moral issue facing our time, and then there are racist jackasses like Ron Paul who are wrong 80% of the time, and I'm tempted to side with him because he's right on this one issue.

He used to my Congressman, before I moved from Elgin, TX. SO I know who he is. He is not our friend. And no one will listen to his calls for impeachment--the Republicans won't because he's a wacko in their party, and the Dems won't because he's a wacko in the other party.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 01:24 AM
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4. Lieberman is ok, but R. Paul is a "nutcase"?
Okay then.


:eyes:

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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 01:34 AM
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8. First, that's not what I said. Second
If you ask that, you don't know Lieberman or Paul, beyond the soundbites and pop representations. Check out both their records. See which one you'd rather have over for dinner.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 01:46 AM
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11. you did. You said "good liberals like Joe Lieberman"
which made me :rofl:

and you called Paul a nutcase.

Who would I rather have to dinner? Paul of course. At least he knows what's up with peak oil. I don't like how he votes most of the time, but Lieberman is a major phony, and would be a dinner party killer.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 02:06 AM
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15. Check them out
Ron Paul's record:
http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=BC031929

Joe Lieberman's record:
http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=S0141103

Look at their liberal ratings, their positions on civil rights, gender, and about every other human rights issue but the invasion. If you'd sit down to dinner with Ron Paul, you are not a liberal.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 02:21 AM
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16. I know their voting records, I am not a newbie
Edited on Tue Jul-11-06 02:24 AM by Viva_La_Revolution
that said, Lieberman is a PHONEY

and as Tom says... "I will take a racist jackass who leans to the Constitution over a moderate, anti-wave-machine Dem.

Anytime."


The true antidote to racism is liberty. Liberty means having a limited, constitutional government devoted to the protection of individual rights rather than group claims. Liberty means free-market capitalism, which rewards individual achievement and competence, not skin color, gender, or ethnicity. In a free market, businesses that discriminate lose customers, goodwill, and valuable employees – while rational businesses flourish by choosing the most qualified employees and selling to all willing buyers. More importantly, in a free society every citizen gains a sense of himself as an individual, rather than developing a group or victim mentality. This leads to a sense of individual responsibility and personal pride, making skin color irrelevant. Rather than looking to government to correct what is essentially a sin of the heart, we should understand that reducing racism requires a shift from group thinking to an emphasis on individualism.

guess who said that.
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SensibleAmerican Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 03:46 AM
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19. Yeah
Edited on Tue Jul-11-06 03:47 AM by SensibleAmerican
I'd pick Lieberman over Paul any day.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 04:08 AM
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21. An honest enemy deserves more respect than an untrustworthy friend. nm
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 01:26 AM
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5. But you gotta love him.
Paul is not in any kind of lockstep but that of his own design.

I will take a racist jackass who leans to the Constitution over a moderate, anti-wave-machine Dem.

Anytime.

We need a message, not a massage.

That said, he is a wacko.

Texas Politics and the Big Beat (apologies to J Morrisson)

The Wasp

I wanna tell you 'bout Texas Radio and the Big Beat
Comes out of the Virginia swamps
Cool and slow with plenty of precision
With a back beat narrow and hard to master

Some call it heavenly in it's brilliance
Others, mean and rueful of the Western dream
I love the friends I have gathered together on this thin raft
We have constructed pyramids in honor of our escaping
This is the land where the Pharaoh died

The Negroes in the forest brightly feathered
They are saying, 'Forget the night.
Live with us in forests of azure.
Out here on the perimeter there are no stars
Out here we is stoned - immaculate.'

Listen to this, and I'll tell you 'bout the heartache
I'll tell you 'bout the heartache and the loss of God
I'll tell you 'bout the hopeless night
The meager food for souls forgot
I'll tell you 'bout the maiden with wrought iron soul

I'll tell you this
No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn

I'll tell you 'bout Texas Radio and the Big Beat
Soft drivin', slow and mad, like some new language

Now, listen to this, and I'll tell you 'bout the Texas
I'll tell you 'bout the Texas Radio
I'll tell you 'bout the hopeless night
Wandering the Western dream
Tell you 'bout the maiden with wrought iron soul


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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 01:32 AM
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7. I won't give props to a racist, no matter what else I agree with him on
It's something in my southern blood.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 01:40 AM
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10. I would pay good money to watch George Wallace
go upside a certain simian's skull with a baseball bat.

Depends on where one draws the line.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 01:46 AM
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12. You ever live in the South?
George Wallace converted by the end of his life and tried to make amends, even humbling himself before some of his victims.

Maybe you have to have lived through it. I would not cheer on David Duke just because he opposed Bush and his invasion. Some alliance you don't make. They create debts that you shouldn't owe. Paul's no David Duke, but he's still not our friend.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 01:57 AM
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13. You could say I have lived in the South. Depends on your definition
My family was the first Anglo family west of the Sabine River and south of the Red (1630).

We still farm and ranch seven of our original Land Grants.

I am the only member of my immediate (down to 2nd cousins) family who lives outside of the Great State of Tejas.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 04:45 AM
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22. "create debts that you shouldn't owe"
There you go, I like that, sits nice and warm in my belly. That's what it is about some of these alliances some folks want to make, they create debts to people you just shouldn't put yourself in a position to owe. That's it exactly.
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 01:28 AM
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6. Used to love Elgin bar-b-que
Edited on Tue Jul-11-06 01:29 AM by jaysunb
I can remember driving up from Austin several times a month for a bit of the brisket. ahhhhh !

Oh yeah, Paul's a nut case. :evilgrin:
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 01:38 AM
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9. Some of it's good, some bad
The Southside Market, which is the big one on 290 on the Austin edge of town, sucks. People in Elgin avoid it--bad service, inconsistent food. My favorite was on the other end of 290, called Biggers, but it was bought by Myers Elgin Sausage. WHich is good sausage (though I'm vegetarian now and don't eat it), but not as good as Biggers was. Then there's Crosstown, if it's still there... ANyway, yeah, Paul's a nutcase.
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Sven77 Donating Member (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 04:06 AM
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20. Ron Paul is not a racist
Edited on Tue Jul-11-06 04:09 AM by Sven77
where is your evidence ? he and Cynthia McKinney are two of my favorite politicians. they openly want to investigate 9/11 fraud.
there are too many fake repub/democrats working for the globalists.

http://infowars.com/articles/bush/ron_paul_impeach_bush_violating_constitution.htm
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 01:59 AM
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14. There's a lot of GOP, and ex-GOP that would support it.

Like me.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 03:34 AM
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17. Congressman Paul
May be a lot of things that we and I don't like, but on this issue he might be nice to have around. At least he is speaking out on the issue and that is a start, particularly from the Republican Party.
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SensibleAmerican Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 03:46 AM
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18. Is there a President Ron Paul does NOT want to impeach
Paul voted for all four counts to impeach Clinton in 1998.
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23. Lock
prisonplanet is not a reliable source and is not allowed in LBN or on other DU forums.
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