Israel puts jet fuel request to US

[cal04]

THE Pentagon notified Congress overnight of an Israeli request to purchase up to $US210 million in JP-8 aviation jet fuel for its military aircraft.

"The jet fuel will be consumed while the aircraft is in use to keep peace and security in the region," the Pentagon's Defence Security and Cooperation Agency said.

The notice to Congress came two days after Israeli fighter jets attacked targets in Lebanon, including the international airport in Beirut, following the capture of two Israeli soldiers by Hezbollah guerrillas.

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The US Congress has 30 days to act to block the sale; otherwise, it is automatically approved.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,19796030-1702,00.html

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060714/pl_afp/mideastisraelus_060714213638

[uppityperson]

1. Looks like time to call congress people

"peace and security"

[mom cat]

16. No fuel for war!

[DELUSIONAL]

19. good idea -- excellent suggestion

war is costly -- and we tax payers will be footing the bill.

Now is the time to tell the children to sit down and negotiate -- pretend to be grown up adults.

Because if we the taxpayers pay for this -- the US is seen as supporting Israel (as if the US doesn't already have this image world wide).

But to say no now would hopefully save lives on BOTH sides -- on ALL sides.

[greccogirl]

26. The U.S. DOES support Israel

They are our allies. If we can spare it we should give it. Israel is once again defending herself, and is made out to be the bully.

[Robbien]

33. Israel has warplanes, their opponents do not

How can you say we should continue funding this very uneven conflict. US funded warplanes are used to fight ground rockets, how uneven can it get?

Probably as uneven as our bombing raids over Iraq.

[BurningDog]

41. Its war, not a boxing match

The entire premise of war is to gain an uneven advantage over your opponent.

[Porcupine]

43. "made out to be the bully"??? WTF!! Is the bully is more like it....

Israel is no friend of the US; at least the part of the U.S. that is not rapture obsessed fundie whackos or war profiteers.

Remember an agent of the Israeli governemnt ran over an american citizen with a bulldozer and the govermment did nothing. Remember the massacres sanctioned by Israel last time they invaded Lebanon. Remember that Israel and the U.S. government proved that they don't give a crap abouty democracy when they attempt to sabotage the results of the Palestinian election.

Well certainly every muslim does. They have a long list of grievances against Israel; many of them valid. What every muslim is also learning every day is that the U.S. war machine in incapable of defending itself in Iraq. That means short of massive bombing they are incapable of defending Israel.

That's why the Israeli blood frenzy this time.

[enid602]

2. Halliburton

Isn't that the type of thing they turn over to Halliburton, or do we only overcharge our own military?

[BrotherBuzz]

12. I think Halliburton only deals in sailboat fuel

Fraud

Knight Ridders' Seth Bornstein reports on May 21, 2004, that "Empty flatbed trucks crisscrossed Iraq more than 100 times as their drivers and the soldiers who guarded them dodged bullets, bricks and homemade bombs.

"Twelve current and former truckers who regularly made the 300-mile re-supply run from Camp Cedar in southern Iraq to Camp Anaconda near Baghdad told Knight Ridder that they risked their lives driving empty trucks while their employer, a subsidiary of Halliburton Inc., billed the government for hauling what they derisively called 'sailboat fuel'

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=War_profiteering

[DearAbby]

3. This is totally insane

[CuteNFuzzy]

4. How can the U.S. say it fights terror

Then helps Israel out so much????

[AndyA]

5. GOP = HYPOCRISY in action. They stand for nothing except

lies, corruption, terror, and death. Call Congress, tell them to "Just say NO!"

[BeHereNow]

9. Welcome to DU CuteNFuzzy...

But get one thing straight:
While OUR social infrastuctures fall to shit-
education, healthcare and so forth, the miscreants
that claim to represent us will be more than happy to
send our tax dollars to Israel and any other country that
does the bidding of corporate interests.
All in the name of "national security" of course...
Doesn't it make you want to SCREAM???
BHN

[Up2Late]

6. I say Hell No!

They should have thought of that before they started attacking the civilian targets in Lebanon.

Topping off their tanks will only prolong this insanity. No Way, when they run short, they have start serious Peace talks.:mad:

[MGD]

15. "when they run short, they have start serious Peace talks"

or serious nuclear weapon talks

[Up2Late]

30. Both would be good.

The U.S. is the only conutry that does not think they are wrong on this one, check it out:

Allies split with U.S. stance on offensive

Agence France-Presse, The Associated Press

Published: July 14, 2006

PARIS Major U.S. allies on Friday condemned the ferocity of Israel's military attack on Lebanon, revealing a clear split with Washington's moderate call for restraint.

President Jacques Chirac of France, the former colonial power in Lebanon, castigated the Israeli offensive, calling it "totally disproportionate," while leaders from Russia to Spain expressed fears of a widening Middle East conflict that could get out of control....

(clip)

...In one of the strongest condemnations yet from a world leader on the conflict, Chirac asked whether Lebanon's destruction was the ultimate goal. "One could ask if today there is not a sort of will to destroy Lebanon, its equipment, its roads, its communication," he said during an interview to mark Bastille Day, a national holiday in France.

Erkki Tuomioja, foreign minister of Finland, which currently holds the EU presidency, voiced Europeans' fears that the conflict could expand into Syria, which some leaders feel may have had a hand in the crisis. "This is in no way desirable, and the consequences could be truly uncontrollable," Tuomioja said.

President Vladimir Putin of Russia called on all sides to stand down, while the Spanish prime minister, José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero, warned Israel that it was "making a mistake" to attack Lebanon.

(more at link) <http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/07/14/news/React.php>

[Whoa_Nelly]

36. Right on, Up2Late!

:thumbsup:

[Tempest]

7. Purchase?

So we give them the money, they are going to hand it back to us and they want to call it a purchase?

I read a report from 2002 that said Israel has yet to pay back one single U.S. loan it has taken out.

[BeHereNow]

31. What a fucking joke, eh?

Borrowing from Peter to pay Paul and all that.
Meanwhile, the price of gas creeps up here to fund that shit
and the congress piggies laugh all the way to the bank on their
MIC investments.
FUCK!!!
I AM SO MAD!
BHN

[saltpoint]

8. "Fillerup."

"Check that oil for ya, buddy?"

[Oreo]

10. Check this out...

I just found out about Rapture Ready today from another post and found this post.
These people are sitting back with popcorn and waiting for the world to end.

http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=265274
Don't sell it to them. No way.
Give it to them with our gratitude and appreciation.

[frylock]

14. i can't wait to see the looks on their stupid faces when it doesn't happen

[IndianaGreen]

22. Check the signature line of the moron Jesus Groupie

"One of the fundamental principles of liberalism is a denial of the doctrine of original sin, and the assertion of the inherent goodness of man. "

Duh? There is no original sin in Judaism and we do believe in the inherent goodness of woman, I don't know about man.

[Rex]

11. 'keep peace and security in the region' = bomb the shit outta everything.

Same thing our military does.

[BeHereNow]

13. While going through airport security today, I heard that very thing Rex..

I was at O'hare this morning on my way back to Los Angeles
this morning and waiting while one of the Thousands Standing Around
(TSA) workers put my purse throught the x-ray machine over and over.
Turns out my powder compact was highly suspicious to this moron.
As I waited as he meticulously inspected my make-up, a man standing
nearby was watching and commented on the proceedings.
I responded with my opinion that since the borders were wide
open and with all that had transpired in the ME over the last
few days that I was relieved that the TSA was being so thorough.
I was, of course, being sarcastic.
The onlooker lit up and said, "Well I think they should just
bomb the entire Middle East and be done with it."
I told him oh yes, that makes perfect sense!
Kill millions of innocent civilians!

Disgusted,
BHN

[Rex]

20. I'm glad they didn't hold you over. Being a DUr probably has

you on a DHS list, somewhere. Ain't it appalling how easily our fellow Americans just gloss over genocide and mass murder? I live in southern Texas and if I had a dime for every time I've heard a fellow Texan say, 'just nuke the place and make it into a parking lot' (and yeah DUrs, they mean ALL of the ME including Israel and probably all of Northern Africa) I'd be richer than Bill Gates.

[BeHereNow]

25. Yes, it is appalling.

And it is equally appalling how 'murikkkans don't
comprehend the rising cost of gas here with the
increasing cost of doing "biddness" in the ME.
Fucking cretins.

BHN

[saigon68]

40. Its the old KILL EM ALL LET GOD SORT EM OUT CROWD

In my experience, they hide in their holes and cry for momma when the shooting starts

ASSCLOWN COWARDS ALL.

Especially the pro-death penalty crowd who says

"I wish I could pull the switch on that nigger." (just ask about O.J. at any redneck bar)

[Pachamama]

17. "Daddy-can I have more fuel so I can bomb & kill more people???

Disgusting...

PS: Wasn't the reason Bin Ladin committed 9/11 was because of our suppot of Israel? Why is the US policy in regards to Israel, "Support for Israel, no matter what, right or wrong?" :shrug:

[BeHereNow]

23. Not to mention how it drives the cost of gas up here, everytime they fuel

But the good 'murikkkans never connect those dots, do they?
Fuel up those Israeli death machines to keep us "safe."
We'll gladly pay more at the pump to be "safe."

Fuckers, all of them.

BHN

[Laughing Mirror]

39. Mr. Laden's major grievance was US (infidel) troops on Saudi holy lands

He didn't like that at all, and ultimately he got his way. We had 9-11, and US troops were removed from Saudi Arabia and sent to more hospitable lands, such as Iraq.

[IndianaGreen]

18. The jet fuel will be used by planes that will be bombing civilian targets

The request must be denied!

[Copperred]

21. Call!!!!

Call your Congress at: 1-202-224-3121

or their....:P

White House at: 1-202-456-1414

[progressivebydesign]

24. DENIED!

Work it out through channels that do not kill innocents in other countries, thank you.

[RummyTheDummy]

27. Get ready for the rubber stamp of approval

Israel has been leading this country around by the nose for decades. No reason to believe it will stop now.

[BeHereNow]

28. You Betcha on the rubber stamping- they will profit handsomely

in that they all own major stock in the companies they work for.
As the demand for fuel rises, so do their kickbacks for compliance
with the war machine.
Those fucking jets eat a TON of fuel- nevermind the
fact that they will be used to kill innocent people-
there's money to be made!

BHN

[IndianaGreen]

29. Robert Fisk's eyewitness account on what Israel is really doing in Lebanon

Robert Fisk: From my home, I saw what the 'war on terror' meant
Published: 14 July 2006

All night I heard the jets, whispering high above the Mediterranean. It lasted for hours, little fireflies that were watching Beirut, waiting for dawn perhaps, because it was then that they descended.

They came first to the little village of Dweir near Nabatiya in southern Lebanon where an Israeli plane dropped a bomb on to the home of a Shia Muslim cleric. He was killed. So was his wife. So were eight of his children. One was decapitated. All they could find of a baby was its head and torso which a young villager brandished in fury in front of the cameras. Then the planes visited another home in Dweir and disposed of a family of seven.

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/fisk/article1174289.ece

[BeHereNow]

32. You know IG, I did not see this on Fox news....

Are you sure it really happened?
By the way, what time is American Idol on?
FUCKARAMA!!!

I am so pissed off right now.
HUGS-
BHN

[HuffleClaw]

34. a blatant move of full support for israeli aggression

truly sad.

[Solo_in_MD]

35. Requests like that do not happen on the spur of the moment

Its has most likely been in the works for several months and is independent of current actions

[leesa]

37. We NEVER turn down Israel...and we never make her pay.

[Pavulon]

38. This is a commodity

and can be bought on the open market if we do not sell.

I am sure someone will fill the order.

[daleo]

42. Let's assume about three bucks per gallon

That would be about 70 million gallons of jet fuel. A gallon of fuel is about 10 pounds so, that would be about 700 billion pounds.

According to the F-16 fuel consumption rates below, averaging 300 pounds per minute, that would be about 4,000 hours of flying time. Over, say 100 jets, that would be 40 hours per jet.

War is expensive.

http://www.voodoo.cz/falcon/agf.html

[Spider Jerusalem]

44. Your figures are off...

One US gallon of jet fuel weighs approximately 6 pounds (one imperial gallon weighs about 7-7.5 pounds). So 70 million US gallons of jet fuel would be closer to 420 million (not billion) pounds--and when I run the numbers I come up with about 233 hours of flight time per aircraft for an air force of 100 planes, based on a figure of $3/1 US gal). War is expensive, but not THAT expensive.

[daleo]

45. I meant to type million, not billion

And I moved the decimal place one too many in the final calculation, so my original calculation should have been 350 hours, not 35. The better estimate of fuel density that you provided takes it to the 233 you quote. I am glad you checked the math.