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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 05:48 PM
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RUSH: I'M NO HYPOCRITE (Caller tags Rush as Pillhead on air)
http://www.nypost.com/seven/11252003/entertainment/11728.htm

November 25, 2003 -- A sneak-attack caller yesterday launched Rush Limbaugh into a defense against charges he was a hypocrite for demanding tough sentences for drug users while he himself was taking black-market pain killers.
"It's not hypocritical because my behavior doesn't determine the value of right and wrong - nobody's does," Limbaugh told listeners.

The caller "Mike from Miami" had made an innocent comment about a congressional vote and then suddenly blurted, "How do you equate hypocrisy and addiction, pillhead?"

Limbaugh, who seemed slightly rattled, responded to "Mike's" original comment, delivered a warning to crank callers that "we are prepared here," and moved on - returning to discuss the hypocrisy issue later in the show.

"If I were to admit I'm a hypocrite, then I'm going to be disqualified from being able to say what I think is right and wrong.

<snip>

Hehe. :evilgrin:
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 05:51 PM
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1. Oh, that last line is brilliant...
We've been rereading FAIR's "The Way Things Aren't" about Rush. If only he COULD be disqualified!!!
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 05:53 PM
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2. Good for Mike
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 05:53 PM
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3. We Know Rush Is A Hypocrite But
His statement proves he is a hypocrite since he would have nothing to say if he admitted it.

"If I were to admit I'm a hypocrite, then I'm going to be disqualified from being able to say what I think is right and wrong."

This is really circular reasoning on his part and underscores conservative denial.

These folks live in a different world where reason does not apply.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 05:55 PM
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4. His hotair is being laugh at like Michael Jackson's peversity.
Karma can be sweet.

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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 06:01 PM
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5. wait a second here, folks, just bear with me.
"If I were to admit I'm a hypocrite, then I'm going to be disqualified from being able to say what I think is right and wrong. "

what he's really saying, here, and i know you can see this, it's easy to see, is that, he refuses to admit that he's a hypocrite because if he does, he can't stand in total judgement over every other human being on the face of the planet.
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 06:10 PM
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6. I thought the same at first
but then I realized the guy is a pathological liar and can say no truthful thing.
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david_vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 07:02 PM
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13. Which is an expression in terms of morality of a position that is
the exact opposite of the one Christ urged us to adopt.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 09:29 AM
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31. I belive you hit the nail on the head truthisfreedom
If he admits what everyone knows then he loses his supposed "high ground". His combativeness over the issue shows that his sickness is still prevalent. Honesty and humility are key to recovery. His job will eventually, literally, kill him.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 06:12 PM
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7. Can't this be done more often? Please n/t
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 06:32 PM
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10. of course! now that mike from miami has done it, it will be done with
increasing frequency and regularity. in fact, i wouldn't be surprised if his listenership increased as he was rattled again and again by sneak attacks on the air. he can't just hang up on these people... it makes him look like he's running from them, afraid. which he is... without the security blanket of the womb-like hillbilly heroin to settle his rattled nerves, a few calls like that per week will crack his thin skin and expose the vulnerable blubber beneath.
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 07:25 PM
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16. They'll just lengthen the delay period.
Even if it means taking up to a half hour or more.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 12:00 AM
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21. naw, that'll never fly. his listeners will begin asking what's going on
during their broadcasts... most of the fun of a call-in show is hearing your own voice on the air.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 06:17 PM
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8. Ding Ding Ding! Disqualified.
Classic asymmetric warfare. Tip o' the hat to Mike!

I love the smell of deflating gas-bags in the morning.

:evilgrin:

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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 06:18 PM
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9. Good for Mike in Miami...
Rush is a joke...errrr...scuse me...pillhead...
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 06:33 PM
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11. Hatemongers like Limbaugh must be terrified
Edited on Tue Nov-25-03 06:41 PM by Snellius
that those they have ridiculed and hated for so long may rise up to reap their revenge. Even if they have no guilty conscience, they know there is no law as powerful as the law of retaliation.

McCain this weekend made an interesting comment about the way DeLay and the Republicans manhandled the Medicare vote: "They better hope the Democrats never get back in power."
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 06:40 PM
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12. Another thing McCain gets right.
Maybe he should run for minority leader?
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shamanstar Donating Member (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 07:06 PM
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14. reading rush is a big fat idiot
by al franken. it is old, but ive never read it. it is quite funny!
if it were written today, it would be called rush limbaugh is a big fay lying idiot.
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 07:10 PM
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15. So he'll be taking himself down to the police station soon
and turning himself in for breaking the law and being the kind of "scum" who illegally abuse drugs? (Scum was his word for it, not mine.) As I recollect, he's always been dead set against recognizing drug abuse problems as any kind of illness, or anything deserving of any treatment other than being locked up, so put up or shut up, gasbag - turn yourself in for the good of society.
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Paladin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 08:54 PM
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17. Check Out Limbaugh's Post-Treatment Behavior

The guy is TOAST. His words are slurred, his voice goes up into high, screeching registers as it never did before, and his grasp of facts is shot---yesterday, he referred to Hubert Humphrey as a former PRESIDENT.

Gotta love it......
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 09:13 PM
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18. Rush, druged up gas bag...
..
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 09:23 PM
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19. I'm sure his lawyers are already working on his
contract conclusion and exit.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 11:11 PM
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20. This makes my head throb...
" "If I were to admit I'm a hypocrite, then I'm going to be disqualified from being able to say what I think is right and wrong."

Rush has absolutely no decency about him. Not one shred.
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incontrovertible Donating Member (643 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 12:15 AM
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22. hypocrisy
is one of the cardinal sins in human society. People en masse will forgive many human failings, but not flagrant hypocrisy. James Baker (the televangelist) and Jimmy Swaggart (ditto) were towering titans in the early 1980s. Their dual sex scandals reduced them to less than nothing.

Rush's entire thesis seems to be, "I AM NOT A HYPOCRITE, BECAUSE I WILL NOT SAY THAT I AM A HYPOCRITE!"

This is absurd, self-evident self-justification. One does not get to assign oneself the label of "hypocrite," or to remove it from oneself once assigned - that is something that is totally and irrevocably within the power of Others.

This might be a seed that Rush would like to plant within the minds of his followers, and for many, this might take root. For the vast majority of them, and of the U.S., this is a preposterous defense to the personally and politically ruinous charge of Hypocricy. That's why nobody else has ever attempted it before.

More satisfying than Rush's personal plight is the moral dilemma his actions must have spawned amongst the death-to-potheads elements of his minionship.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 12:21 AM
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24. excellent post.
this is indeed the first time i've ever seen the argument surface "i am not a hypocrite, because i will not that say i am a hypocrite." if that defense was to be valid, nobody would ever need be guilty of anything again.

"i am not a murderer, because i refuse to say that i am a murderer!"
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incontrovertible Donating Member (643 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 01:18 AM
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26. thanks
Edited on Wed Nov-26-03 01:20 AM by incontrovertible
and exactly right:

"if that defense was to be valid, nobody would ever need be guilty of anything again."

Precisely. It's absurd on its face. "I'm a violently anti-gay religious nut who engages in anonymous sex with other men at truck stops - but I'm not a hypocrite, because I SAY I'M NOT!"

I can't even fashion a coherent, "well, what he MEANT was..." out of it. It is probably the weakest, lamest, most baseless attempt at self-justification he has ever uttered. This is a man who mocked Kurt Cobain's suicide by saying that he "used a shotgun so he wouldn't miss this time" (because drugs, see), to cite just one example of his obnoxious bloviating on the drug issue, and yet, despite knowing full well exactly who and what he is, seems to think that by not admitting it, he is not actually that which he is.

Is this how he approached his therapy? "I am not a drug addict, because I refuse to say I am a drug addict?" I would wager so. I would also wager that this was a defense cooked up throughout the four weeks he took off, and that he considers it brilliant.

I think he was clearly rattled, and that he's barely coping only two weeks out of intensive, round-the-clock therapy - after having driven himself deaf from narcosynthetic abuse. I also think the timespan of his remaining career extends, at best, until just after the 2004 election. Win or lose.
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lfairban Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 01:17 AM
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25. Well said.
A great post!
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Bozola Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 12:21 AM
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23. He, and the reat of the RW filth don't believe that...
they are being hypocritical simply because they believe that they belong to a different society than us peasants where different rules apply.

The can and will say anything to placate or distract us, taking full advantage of our misbelief that there is a level playing field where all rule apply equally.

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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 02:02 AM
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27. Different rules do apply, don't they?

Crime: Antrax mailings. Punishment: none.
Crime: Leaking CIA cover. Punishment: none.
Crime: Buying Rx drugs on Black Market. Punishment: none.
Crime: AWOL from Tx Nat'l Guard. Punishment: none.
Crime: Cooking Enron books. Punishment: none.

Does anyone see a trend?
-------
Dubya profits from selling stocks before company goes under. Punishment: none.

Martha Stewart sells stocks on advice of broker. Indicted.
--------

Does anyone believe the Anthrax was mailed by a foreign terrorist? I don't because of the intended targets. Will the evil doer ever be brought to justice for killing people? I doubt it. Isn't it strange that Anthrax had not surfaced but Dubya was calling it a threat before it showed up?

Does anyone think there is a real investigation into the CIA leak?
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 06:21 AM
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28. This administration seems to take care of its own. And if you aren't
Edited on Wed Nov-26-03 06:21 AM by Billy_Pilgrim
"with them," they'll break the cover on your CIA wife.

The nation is being run by the mafia.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 07:55 AM
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29. We used to call that "Druggie Behavior"...
Refusing to acknowledge that you have Done Wrong.

his behavior "doesn't determine the value of right or wrong"?
What the hell is THAT supposed to mean?

a fancy way to say "Do as I say, not as I do, and pay no attention to that man behind the curtain"?
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 08:11 AM
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30. Rush translation:
"If I were to admit I'm a hypocrite, then I'm going to be disqualified from being able to say what I think is right and wrong.”

Truth only gets in the way. I’m not going to let that happen or I would be out of a job.
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