Peace prize winner 'could kill' Bush

[ECH1969]

NOBEL peace laureate Betty Williams displayed a flash of her feisty Irish spirit yesterday, lashing out at US President George W.Bush during a speech to hundreds of schoolchildren.

Campaigning on the rights of young people at the Earth Dialogues forum, being held in Brisbane, Ms Williams spoke passionately about the deaths of innocent children during wartime, particularly in the Middle East, and lambasted Mr Bush.

"I have a very hard time with this word 'non-violence', because I don't believe that I am non-violent," said Ms Williams, 64.

"Right now, I would love to kill George Bush." Her young audience at the Brisbane City Hall clapped and cheered.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/printpage/0,5942,19902313,00.html

[Poll_Blind]

1. "You might think that but I could not possibly comment" - Frances Urquhart

From "House of Cards"

PB

[Pacifist Patriot]

50. Love that line! I use it liberally.

[Poll_Blind]

62. 8^) n/t

PB

[Tyrone Slothrop]

112. Wow! I loved those series

I'd sort of forgotten all about them until now...

[MisoWeaver]

2. I don't care...

That's a stupid thing to say, especially to kids.

[Name removed]

3. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[brmdp3123]

8. What, you're not allowed to have an opinion until you've got

a thousand posts?

Kind of tough on new folks, aren't you?

[Posteritatis]

11. That does seem to be the opinion lately...

I don't pretend to get it myself. I wonder if the admins have ever considered simply concealing the post count.

[brmdp3123]

14. I don't think so. It seems that anyone with fewer than

1000 is a Freeper lurker by definition. I've been accused of it myself.

[tbyg52]

105. At least you were accused...

...I had a post deleted (only one, so I'm not complaining that it happens to me all the time) with no explanation except a reference to the rules. Since I don't use profanity or suggest that anyone do anatomically improbable things, I was puzzled. I appreciate the moderators taking their own time to monitor the board, but I can't help thinking it would take only a miniscule amount of extra time per deletion to send a short message as to *why*. But then again, I don't know how many messages total they process per day.

[reprobate]

127. tbyg52, volunteering as moderator would be the best thing you could do,

both for yourself and for the Underground. I've done it four or five times myself in the past and found it to be the most educational and informative activity I could do for myself, as well as helping to keep the discussions rolling along in a civil manor. Don't take any post removal personally, the mods have a humongous job to do and may not have time to comment on every one of them.

Again I recommend volunteering. No better way to get a feel for how thing happen here. And post removals are usually not done by a single opinion, but are brought up in the moderator forum and discussed there before an action is taken. Just a little behind the scenes light on the subject.

[tbyg52]

134. I'd like to, but...

I only have time to get on the board a couple times a month, usually, and I only have dialup access. (And only get 26.4 with that--I am in the *serious* boonies.)

[reprobate]

123. This was discussed years ago when DU first started.

Try searching the archives for something you are not educated about before coming down on the entire membership of the board, some of whom have been here since January 2001.

[Posteritatis]

132. Meh, I respond based on what I see

And I hadn't bothered with search in the past because, when and before I got this account, it was subscription-only feature.

This has since changed, I see, but if you expect me to read five years' worth of archives on a forum this size before I'm allowed to comment on behaviour around here, you'll have to show me your crack license first.

[zonkers]

25. Every playground has a bully.

[Exiled in America]

92. It's hard on those of us who can't post often

... I've been registered for a long time, but I don't have the time to make that many posts. :(

[Zodiak]

128. I normally leave them alone

but today I saw a 3 post person claim to know what all of DU thinks and excoriated a person just for saying they were for peace....called their post "useless".

I let him have it with both barrels.

This is the ONLY time I have ever brought up a person's post count to adminish them.

And I only post 1-10 times a week, so I know what it is like to get that coveted 1000+...a long, hard slog.

[Rambis]

4. What he has done to millions of children pales in comparison

to a few words spoken by an angry person sick and tired of what she sees in the * wake.
It is death and destruction and those who profit because of it.

[MisoWeaver]

40. So you're in favor of murder?

Is that what you stand for? Killing those that you deem incorrect, that you disagree with?


How charming!
What a lovely world that would be.

[Name removed]

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[SensibleAmerican]

68. The Hague doesn't execute people

But the Secret Service will be making a visit to your house pretty soon.

[VegasWolf]

71. Bush needs to be tried for war crimes. Once tried, we certainly have

capital punishment in this country. The use of force that kills 10's of thousands of innocent Iraqis all for oil needs to be addressed.

[Exiled in America]

93. Capital punishment is not exactly something to be proud about :/

[VegasWolf]

99. Applied fairly, I have no problems with it, some people deserve it to

my way of thinking. Especially when the death penalty is applied to mass murderers.

[Exiled in America]

119. I think the problem is that there's no good example of it applied fairly

Look, I'm with you in the sense that I wouldn't really lose any sleep if there was a death penalty for convicted mass murderers.

The trouble of course, comes in the grey areas. Right now, I don't believe you could point to a country with capital punishment where the death penalty is instituted fairly. Certainly not the United States where race and politics play a terrible role.

Still though... I'm diverting from your point, which was not to argue the pros and cons of capital punishment. We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming. :)

[VegasWolf]

121. LOL! Right, that Bush is a mass murderer who deserves it!

[VegasWolf]

72. Okay! Bush should be tried at the Hague. nt

[Cha]

76. It's a figure of speech..no way

would the lovely NOBEL peace laureate Betty Williams be comtemplating actually doing the deed.

[Zorra]

80. Heck, Bu*h kills lots of innocent little babies that he doesn't even know,

What does he stand for?

War crimes? Crimes against humanity?

Bu*h is a mass murderer. Hopefully, at some point in the near future, our system of justice will address this indisputable fact accordingly.

[TheWatcher]

86. And do you condone all the killing that your beloved leader

is responsible for?

If so, you support murder and mass killing, by your logic.

[gorbal]

100. I think "incorrect" might be a bit of an understatement

Several things I probably shouldn't say online spring to mind.

But I agree what she said does nothing for our cause. Why anyone would want to make a Martyr out of that sob I have no idea.

[Henny Penny]

108. Do you always take things so literally?

Must lead to a lot of unecessary stress in your life!

[Tyrone Slothrop]

113. Bush is the one with the blood of hundereds of thousands on his hands

This woman did nothing wrong.

[stepnw1f]

115. Words and Actions are Two Very Different Things

accusing a DUer of wanting death because they understand the rage behind the "word" does not mean that person favor murder.

Great way to bait people here, newbie.

[LanternWaste]

124. I once told a best friend of mine...

I once told a best friend of mine that I'd love to kill him. He laughed, I laughed, life went on and to misinterpret what was said as seriously condoning murder is...well, kinda silly if you apply some thought to it.

We're not Statesmen on DU for the most part; just a bunch of progressives who use common vernacular (although there is a *particular* Statesman out there who unfortunately uses more vernacular than do we...

[Judi Lynn]

5. You may as well take the time to read the article:

This came next (context is everything):

"I don't know how I ever got a Nobel Peace Prize, because when I see children die the anger in me is just beyond belief. It's our duty as human beings, whatever age we are, to become the protectors of human life."

Ms Williams was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize 30 years ago, when she circulated a petition to end violence in Northern Ireland after witnessing British soldiers shoot dead an IRA member who was driving a car. He veered on to the footpath, killing two children from one family instantly and fatally injuring a third.

Ms Williams's petition had tens of thousands of Protestant and Catholic women walking the streets together in protest. Now the former office receptionist heads the World Centres of Compassion for Children International, a non-profit group working to create a political voice for children.

"My job is to tell you their stories," Ms Williams said of a recent trip to Iraq.

"We went to a hospital where there were 200 children; they were beautiful, all of them, but they had cancers that the doctors couldn't even recognise. From the first Gulf War, the mothers' wombs were infected.

"As I was leaving the hospital, I said to the doctor, 'How many of these babies do you think are going to live?'

"He looked me straight in the eye and said, 'None, not one'. They needed five different kinds of medication to treat the cancers that the children had, and the embargoes laid on by the United States and the United Nations only allowed them three."
(snip)

[Brian Stevens]

15. But it is that one line that will get attention

She needs to choose her words more carefully. But as the old saying goes, Saying it is one thing, doing it is another.

[Biernuts]

83. Try that line on TSA the next time you fly. Then let us know

about your new roommate, Bubba, in the Federal Pen.

[Nihil]

90. Hey!

Is that you Bubba? Didn't realise you had internet access!
:-P

[Brian Stevens]

102. I was speaking statistics. NT

[jwirr]

29. Pro-Life trolls, Attention! Did you hear what she said? "In the womb"

- those babies were killed in the womb. *ss is a baby killer.

[Judi Lynn]

44. Apparently with these guys it's all cool if it's a "brown-skinned" woman's

womb. It's a whole different game if white right-wingers are at risk!

[anakie]

48. the last four sentences also need to be taken into account

"Wrapping up the three-day forum yesterday, delegates agreed to a 26-point action plan.

"There can be no sustainable peace while the majority of the world's population lives in poverty," they said.

"There can be no sustainable peace if we fail to rise to the global challenge presented by climate change.

"There can be no sustainable peace while military spending takes precedence over human development."

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,19902313-2702,00.html


to me these 3 points a the crux of the whole issue - and why as long as the military-industrial complex is being run by lunatics - will there never be peace. Just no money in it.

Peace

[vincent_vega_lives]

107. "United States and the United Nations"

So the US is not part of the UN?

[flyarm]

9. children know truth when they see it and hear it..

you can not hide truth from children..

its the adults who should be ashamed!!

and not ashamed of words..but of deeds!

the world knows pissy pants is murdering..its just bdumb assed americans who don't and don't want their little minds bothered with truth!

fly

[Judi Lynn]

20. It would take a very stupid child to miss her meaning.

If he/she's that far gone, he/she has more problems than he/she can handle anyway.

Ordinary children grasp context.

[flyarm]

31. are the words of this woman worse than the deeds of our president? n/t

[Judi Lynn]

47. I was trying to emphasize it wasn't meant to be considered a death threat.

Sometimes I get a little incoherent!

I meant a bright, healthy child would listen to someone and would hold in mind the manner of behavior of the person, the TONE of the delivery as being in every possible sense as vital to the message as the actual words. So many expressions are not meant to be taken absolutely literally.

If all language really DID operate that way, we'd all be as idiotic as our slow learning right-wing brethren and sisters.

[flyarm]

54. gotcha now!! thanks!! n/t

[pokercat999]

61. We'd talk in "email".....eom

[xxqqqzme]

87. of course not.

She has no power. her words kill no one - *blivet's spread death and destruction across the globe.

[Pacifist Patriot]

51. I agree. All of my children could recognize sarcasm by 3 years old.

Gee, wonder why.

[Judi Lynn]

55. The right-wing reading of your post would lead them to believe

you are perplexed about why your children could recognize sarcasm by the time they were three yrs. old!

[Pacifist Patriot]

66. LOL!

[Kurovski]

21. Oh well, no more "nicey-nice" for george bush.

the time has come for words to be as nasty as the man's (and his puppeteers') actions.

besides, it's a figure of speech, not a literal threat. Millions of folks in the world feel "murderous rage" at any given moment without acting upon it at all. it's folks like Bush who kill in a cooly calculated manner.

Bush and company are themselves hideous killers by a variety of means. They are horrendously immoral people, don't you agree?

I didn't find her comment to be stupid, but quite humorous, and so we disagree on that point.

Welcome to DU.

[flyarm]

33. children learn quickly..sticks and stones break my bones but names

and words kill no one..but they damn sure know bombs dropped by little lord pissy pants are killing other children world wide by our president!

do not underestimate children...

those children know damn well that our president murders ..
he murders children, mommies and daddies and grandmas and grandpas..

and words good or bad will not change what they know!

fly

[Dr Fate]

69. At least all she did was SAY it to kids. Bush actually DOES it to kids.

n/t

[TheWatcher]

85. It's a stupid thing to invade a country that was no threat

and had no weapons, resulting in the deaths of over 100,000 Civilians and now almost 3000 Americans.

But then again, you probably agree with that.

[flowomo]

95. agree completely

[flyarm]

6. they love us..they really do..for our freedoms.. as * says...

hey bush..do they love us for the murders that are being committed daily in "our name"...i think not!!

generations are going to pay for what is being done by this sick pathetic man in our white house..count on that!! and lazy Americans who can't be bothered knowing what is going on " in our name"!!

WHATS REALLY SAD IS THE CHILDREN CLAPPED AND CHEERED!!

those children are the future of the world..and little lord pissy pants is putting bullseyes on the children of the future of our nation...while killing the children of the world!!

the world will never forget..nor should they!!

fly

[Vidar]

7. She has my vote.

[Posteritatis]

10. Would she get another for actually doing it? ;) (n/t)

[Brian Stevens]

30. It'll be nice to find out, me being a spectator and all. NT

[pokercat999]

65. Can see the headline now

"Nobel Peace Prize Awarded for Murder" Today the Nobel Peace prize for saving countless lives by ending just a few, was awarded to the murderer of G.W. Bush, the entire Bush Administration and most of the US Congress when the winner set off a small nuclear devise, just over one year ago, in Washington DC, the Capitol of the US. The devise was cleverly concocted so the resulting explosion only killed the deserving, sparing tourists and other innocents in the capitol that day. Scientists are still studying the remains and parts of the devise in an attempt to figure out exactly how this was accomplished. Since the murderer was never found the prize will be held in escrow awaiting his or her claim.



Hey, it could happen, with a little luck. ok,ok for those who can only speak in "email" :sarcasm:

:nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke:

[Oak2004]

126. ROFL! I'm laughing so hard here I startled my parrot n/t

[snappyturtle]

12. I think it's a difficult message for children to hear.....

but children need to know there are people who care and love them.....because the children in our lives are aware of the violent deaths other children.

[flyarm]

13. many times it is through our children that we must be awakened

to truth...

and if thats what it takes..so be it!

fly

[snappyturtle]

46. Agreed. nt

[Union Thug]

16. Uh oh. Now she's on Bushie's Enemies List.

Sleep with one eye open, Betty. The Bushbots won't allow this to go unchecked!

[VegasWolf]

18. Exactly! The blood soaked Bush can't handle the truth. That is why he

never sees anything negative. Bubble-boy and his cocaine straw.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

17. "Right now, I would love to kill George Bush."

How bad do you have to be to inspire such a quote from a NOBEL peace laureate?

[MrPrax]

70. Exactly!!!

What I thought!!

How bad can you be if a nice little old lady pacifist wants to kill you and SAYS it to children who then voice agreement by clapping and cheering!!!

This is the Presdient of the United States, huh?

My oh My...how bad can you be, indeed. :rofl:



(oh yes...the children! the children! God, who will protect the children! :eyes: Prudes!)

[SensibleAmerican]

81. How bad of a Nobel Peace Prize laureate do you have to be to say something

that stupid?

Neither Kennedy was killed because he was unpopular. Assassination threats are not correlated one way or another to one's popularity.

[Nihil]

91. Bet she doesn't call herself a "Peace Prize laureate"!

Face it, the "Secret Service" cannot possibly follow up every single "threat"
to Bush ... there are neither enough people in the Service nor hours in the
day to allow all such "threats" to be followed through.
If there is any follow-up at all about this it is a purely political ploy
thrown out to amuse the dipsticks who believe that the murderer-in-chief
is somehow "special" enough to warrant protection from honest opinions.
Still, at least you'll be happy ...

(PS: Agent Mike? Shove it!)

[Henny Penny]

111. How stupid must one be not to recognize figurative speech??

[Judi Lynn]

120. It's simply overwhelming. "Is our children learning?" n/t

[sinkingfeeling]

19. When is the Secret Service arresting her for making threats against

our 'beloved' president? That's what would happen if you or I said the same thing.

[GrpCaptMandrake]

26. I don't know

but I can all but guarantee she won't be allowed on a plane coming to the U.S.!

Me, I prefer to simply respect the motto on the flag of Ol' Virginny. That's not a crime . . . yet.

[flyarm]

34. when they arrest ann coulter for telling people to bomb NYT..n/t

[elehhhhna]

22. in frreper language that' called Ironical.

[Straight Shooter]

23. She should have said, "I would love to kill the neocon ideology."

That would have given her an opportunity to educate more people.

Oh, well, she feels the way she feels, and that's the end of that.

[zonkers]

24. Put that bitty on a watch list.

[flyarm]

36. she prob is already ..or she could go on little lord pissy pants

list of killing micro biologists!!

or his other lists of suicides..

or weird car crashes or small plane crashes..

i am sure pissy pants has her on one of his hit lists!

fly

[earth mom]

27. Already posted 1st thought: Children know & speak the TRUTH. nt

[earth mom]

35. Forgot to add that the best place for * & his thugs is the Hague. nt

[Anita Garcia]

28. It is her opinion

It is how she feels. It is her choice to say what she wants to her audience.

[warrens]

32. I hope she likes warm weather

It's pretty steamy down there in Gitmo. Little Lord Pissypants doesn't take kindly to someone telling the truth about him.

[whistle]

37. Bush's response, "Bring her on!"

[goforit]

57. LOL!!! I guess he won't be reading "My Pet Goat" at elementary schools

too soon.
She has incited children to attack him!!!
LOL!!!

[rodeodance]

38. poor choice of words-even with the 'context'.

[truthisfreedom]

39. she could have left out that comment and been at least as effective

delivering her message to the children, but would she have made the news? probably not. rove is likely steamed about this, unable to arrest her in a foreign country.

[anakie]

41. so could I

although to do so would only make the fuckwit a matyr.

[high density]

42. I'd rather see him locked up in a federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison

Gotta respect life and all.

[High Plains]

129. Ah, yes, prison rape. Funny topic. Ha ha.

[high density]

131. 'Guess you haven't seen the movie OFFICE SPACE.

[MasonJar]

43. Reminds me of the Harper's editorial.

[cliss]

45. As tempting as it is.....

we (meaning the rest of the world) need to restrain ourselves. Just because Bush is a thug and a criminal and he sits on the Throne of the world, meting out death and destruction wherever he turns his focus.....

....we simply cannot fall into that trap.

I understand Betty Williams completely. When Bush was 'elected' the 1st time around, it was seriously a threat to my belief in God, karma, justness of the universe you name it. All that kinda floated down the river.... I surfed on a wave of anger that kept going and going.....it drove me in here to the DU, after all.....

Today, I feel better. I know it's tough, but we need to hang on to our own principles and not become like him. In particular when we talk to kids. We have to show them the RIGHT way....

[jahyarain]

60. agreed.

saying that to children is no different than what Hamas does to its youth. call the bastard out for being a murderer all day if you want, but don't put it in a child's head that violence is the way to go. we're supposed to be better than that. and depending on the ages (i saw no indication of), you can twist a child ANY WAY you want. having said that, i, of course, feel the same as she does. and for the same reasons. but i won't be saying it in front of my children. and we have conversations about what's going on in the world daily. Peace

edit: punctuation

[lynne]

49. This occurred in Australia, which explains how she could say such -

- in a school environment. Our local schools are so sensitive about using language that is the least bit violent that any child making such a statement would be expelled and both the child AND the parents required to go to counseling before the child could re-enter the school. No Joke.

Wonder what the reaction would have been had she said she would "love to kill our Prime Minister"? Regardless of intent, her choice of words were poor.

[Kailassa]

59. If she had said she would love to kill the australian prime minister -

The reaction would be the same. A few papers would report it, most would not even be interested.

Australians find the American adulation of their president really hard to understand. It comes across as a kind of cult, a religion almost. It's frightening that people put so much faith in one person, give him so much power, and then elect a blithering idiot who doesn't even know the names of leaders from other major countries to do the job.

Here noboby would assassinate the country's "leader" because nobody would see a mere politician as important enough to waste a bullet on. And we know there are always plenty more mongrels where that one came from. But I can guarantee, if you walked into any pup here and announced that you'd just shot The Lying Rodent, aka Johnny Howard, you'd be shouted more beer than even an Australian could drink in a week.

[Matilda]

96. It's true -

I know a lot of guys who argue over who should fire the first bullet at Howard.

And plenty more who want to piss on his grave when it's done.

That's just how we are.

[Biernuts]

53. I have worked with the US Secret Service before - words

like hers are treated seriously, like making comments about bombs and hijacking in airports or on aircraft. It doesn't matter if she is speaking about Bill Clinton out of office or George Bush in it - a secret service protectee considered always at risk.

Safe to say she won't be visiting the US anytime soon - at least not voluntarily.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

97. Did the Secret Service investigate Jesse Helms when he

said President Clinton was so unpopular on military bases in North Carolina that "he better watch out if he comes down here. He'd better have a bodyguard." link

Or Ann Coulter's threats against the lives of "liberal" Supreme Court justices? I guess the FBI would handled that one, if she wasn't a Republican who was carrying out her masters' orders.

[HughBeaumont]

118. Remember - IOKIYAR!

It's OK . . . if you're a Republican.

Threats, however idle or serious, are a one-way street in Bizarro Land.

[SensibleAmerican]

56. What an idiot

I hope they revoke her peace prize. This is simply fodder for the Christian right neoconservatives (those who are both neoconservatives and Christians) who will now say that Bush is an agent of God and these Nobel Prize committee are the antichrists.

[many a good man]

64. She wouldn't hurt a fly

Maybe we all need to show a little more feistiness if we want end the shedding of innocent life.

I like to believe that people in the long run are going to do more to promote peace than our governments. Indeed, I think that people want peace so much that one of these days governments had better get out of the way and let them have it.
Dwight D. Eisenhower

[VegasWolf]

73. What do the deluded sky people have to do with this? nt

[Name removed]

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[SensibleAmerican]

104. Should I sympathize with the people who killed President Kennedy?

After all, they must have had a reason. Right? Maybe we should just understand why they wanted Kennedy killed. You say we don't know who killed Kennedy? Well, we should have just appeased all 200 people suspected of killing Kennedy.

Anybody who wishes to murder somebody else is no better than the person he or she wishes to kill.

[stepnw1f]

116. Did She Kill Somebody?

Nope....

[Judi Lynn]

58. Hang her, by God! If her words, misunderstood, won't damn her,

be aware that she's one of them there furriners!

[VegasWolf]

74. Throw her in a lake and see if she floats! nt

[Roland99]

63. Just dropping by to say "hi" to Agent Mike!

:hi:

[rug]

67. Bush would make Gandhi pack heat.

[Cha]

75. OOOOOOPS!

Must be an even bigger "figure of speech" over there!:P

[anotherdrew]

77. kill him with KINDNESS, the same sort we've shown the liberated iraqi's

how about that?

[VegasWolf]

78. Sky person leader Pat Robertson actually did call for the killing of

Chavez.

:puke:

[Biernuts]

82. I don't favor giving Robertson the Peace Prize either. Shit,

that phoney couldn't even heal Bob Dole's Arm.

If Dole ever starts making kill comments about any Secret Service protectee, for example life protectee Hillary Clinton, you be sure to let us know.

[VegasWolf]

84. What does Dole have to do with this? Pat Robertson couldn't get a

Nobel Prize to save his psycho ass. Robertson is not a phony, he is a leader of the sky people.

[stepnw1f]

117. lol...(nt)

[tinfoilinfor2005]

79. Kill? No. I would just like to be the old lady on the Four Eyes commercial

with the cane that cracks him in the nuts.

[leesa]

88. It would likely be one of the biggest contributions to peace she could make

[bloom]

103. Unfortunately - that is too true. nt

[PATRICK]

94. Really, that is the time machine

temptation. The solution has ALWAYS been to make democracy and the law work and support it en masse and dutifully at all levels of society. Or we will ALWAYS have the worst and dumbest tyrannizing us with such comparative ease. Media must be genuine. Servants must not be exceptional in duty and insight but routinely so. Accountability is a baby step not taken. It is far too late now for violence to solve anything, for whiplash retribution to balance the magnitude of loss.

The answer has always been the law. People have died for every fearful surrender, every lazy wink and yawn, every opportunistic "career" move at the expense of justice and the civil society.

[DinahMoeHum]

98. Well, she can take a number and get in line. . .

:evilfrown:

[VegasWolf]

101. Little children praying in Iraq, please don't let Bush kill me! nt

[VegasWolf]

106. Bush to Iraqis, "Please stop bringing it on!" nt

[vincent_vega_lives]

109. The interesting thing is

The crimes against childeren she speaks of happened under George Bush Senior, and then the sanctions under Bill Clinton.

We went to a hospital where there were 200 children; they were beautiful, all of them, but they had cancers that the doctors couldn't even recognise. From the first Gulf War, the mothers' wombs were infected.

"As I was leaving the hospital, I said to the doctor, 'How many of these babies do you think are going to live?'

"He looked me straight in the eye and said, 'None, not one'. They needed five different kinds of medication to treat the cancers that the children had, and the embargoes laid on by the United States and the United Nations only allowed them three."

[rooboy]

110. I live in the city where this statement was made...

yet the first I heard of it is on DU. What's the big deal about it?

[Judi Lynn]

122. Education doesn't always take with a certain part of this population.

Their dense little heads go to school, but nothing seems to penetrate them. They grow up rigid, inflexible, humorless, uncharitable, and too simple-minded.

If they don't understand something immediately they refuse to question whether or not they misunderstood, and react angrily. Add to this a suspicious view of everyone different from themselves, and a sourness and disrespect for the rest of the human race.

It's almost impossible to imagine they don't understand what she meant. You just have to talk very slowly and in the simplest way around these people.

[kestrel91316]

114. Not the sort of thing one likes to see come out of the mouth of a

peace activist, BUT..................

She is an Irish citizen speaking on Australian soil. No American laws apply to her or what she said. I would venture a guess that she's not the only non-American on non-American soil to say that or something similar.

I don't give a rip that she said it. It's really none of our business.

[robcon]

125. She's an asshole.

She's no peace activist. She should give back her medal for openly encouraging assassination.

[Judi Lynn]

130. Isn't it peculiar how a figure of speech from a possible liberal

gets some posters foaming at the mouth, whereas it doesn't seem to bother them at all that their right-wing pResident is hard at work bringing more tragedy, more suffering, more broken bodies, broken minds, more grief to the world than any American President in history?

They couldn't hire someone to better point out their character defects than they do for themselves.

[Bush_MUST_Go]

133. Everyone knows only Repubs are allowed to talk about killing people...

“And I think people like Tim Russert and the others, who gave this guy such a free ride and all the media, they're the ones to be shot, not Karl Rove.” ---Congressman Peter King (R-NY)



“When you get through you say, ‘If I could just get a nuclear device inside Foggy Bottom . I think that’s the answer,’” Robertson declared. “I mean, you get through this and you say, ‘We’ve got to blow that thing up.’” --Pat Robertson



"When contemplating college liberals, you really regret once again that John Walker is not getting the death penalty. We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed, too. Otherwise, they will turn out to be outright traitors." --Ann Coulter - Jan. 2002