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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 04:00 PM
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Bush mispronounces Nevada in first presidential visit [hahahahah]
that's our bush!

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/a/2003/11/26/state1302EST0055.DTL

Bush mispronounces Nevada in first presidential visit


Wednesday, November 26, 2003

(11-26) 10:02 PST CARSON CITY, Nev. (AP) --

Nevada memo to George Bush: When making a first presidential visit to a state, use the right pronounciation of its name.

Bush, in Las Vegas on Tuesday, repeatedly said Ne-vah-da. To properly pronounce Nevada, the middle syllable should rhyme with gamble.

Mispronouncing the state's name "sets people's teeth on edge," said state Archivist Guy Rocha. "He's the president, and he ought to get it right. Nothing personal."

State Senate Minority Leader Dina Titus, D-Las Vegas, said the mispronunciation shows Bush, who won the state in the 2000 election, doesn't care much about the state.
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Tracer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 04:04 PM
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1. Huh?
Not that I say the word much, but that's the way I pronounce it also.

Now, if SmirkBoy had said We-wah-da (like the way he pronounced the word "vial" as "wial"), you'd have something to talk about.
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monobrau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 05:17 PM
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Who knew?
That's how I've always said it. Funny thing is, I thought he said "here in Novato" which is just a few miles from here (CA), and I perked up, thinking that I had missed the chance to go heckle him.
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Ernesto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 06:48 PM
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27. Try to rhyme duh-bad-duh
That's the correct way to say it. Out here in the west, the Eastern sea board establishment speech empediment drives us nuts.... Interesting foot note.. If chimp was really from Texas, then why would the dumb bastard speak the eastern sea board dialect?..... Think about it real hard chimpy: it'll creep up on ya..... By the way, ask a Viet veteran how he feels about the fact that nobody in Washington could pronounce the name of the country that we were making war in. Vietnam DOES NOT rhyme with "jam": it rhymes with "tom". But ofcourse, what did them ignorant "gooks" know?
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 08:44 PM
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35. eastern seaboard, yep
i know of one person who pronounces nevada ne-vah-dah and he's from nyc.
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oxymoron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 04:05 PM
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2. Next stop Or-uh-gone? (nt)
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 04:43 PM
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7. Next stop, Frisco.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 07:13 PM
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31. RE: Frisco
"Whoever after due and proper warning shall be heard to utter the
abominable word "Frisco," which has no linguistic or other warrant,
shall be deemed guilty of a High Misdemeanor, and shall pay into the
Imperial Treasury as penalty the sum of twenty-five dollars."

By edict of His Imperial Majesty Norton I, Emperor of the United States, Protector of Mexico; 1872.
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lightbulb Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 08:49 PM
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36. HA! Thanks Spider
I keep meaning to visit His Majesty's final resting place in Colma, CA. Amazing that his story took place in the 19th century. Sounds like it's from the 1970s!

http://www.notfrisco.com/nortoniana/index.html

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kainah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 05:47 PM
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17. That's the one that makes me scream at the TV
as I was doing during the Medicare debate when the Jennifer Dunn -- who, being from Washington State really SHOULD know better -- kept saying that!!!!! AAAARRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :grr:
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 04:07 PM
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3. Henceforth, Nevada shall be known as Nevahda and California
as Cauliforeea.

Welcome to The Unites States of Stupid.

Kinda reminds me of the planet in 'Mom and Dad Save the World' where everyone is stupid.
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 04:08 PM
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4. Two Words He Dosen't Mispronounce
Contributions and millions.
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rvgwinn Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 04:24 PM
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5. Bush
Does anyone know why we have to pay taxes so he can run around the country campaigning to get re-appointed. We are contributing to his re-appointment campaign!! Shouldn't he be at the office working like everyone else?
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 04:49 PM
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8. i prefer him out of the WH
Not that I think he's the brains behind anything (what a concept!) but I feel he's able to ruin the country less when he's on the road.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 05:02 PM
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11. Actually, you don't have to.
No taxation without representation!

Of course, I am not advocating that people not pay their taxes...

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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 04:42 PM
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6. To properly pronounce Nevada, the middle syllable should rhyme with gamble
Edited on Wed Nov-26-03 04:43 PM by gristy
I tried and tried. I couldn't do it. Who is this friggin linguist? I mean I'm a Dem and all, but I'll be damned if I'm going to criticize the prez for pronouncing Nevada ne-vah-da. Seems pretty petty. I've never heard it pronounced any other way, to tell you the truth. :wtf:
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 04:52 PM
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9. Rhyme with "gamble" ??? Nevbleda? Nevambda? Nevambleda?
Or does he mean that the "a" in Nevada should sound like the "a" gamble. Wouldn't that give Nevada a Michigan accent?
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 05:36 PM
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15. That's the point
if you all would just speak like Midwesterners, we wouldn't have these misunderstandings. Ne-va(like AT)-da. With a good Midwestern twang on the "a". Not the Yale, yuppie Ne-VAH-da. Makes you sound like some BBC wannabe twit.
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 02:07 AM
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47. I disagree
Nevadans have a right to pronounce their state's name any way they want but I have a hard time seeing "Ne-vah-duh" as a "yuppie" pronunciation. I'm from Southeastern Texas and everyone down here says "Ne-vah-duh", and there aren't too many Yankees or yuppies down here. I'm guilty of slaughtering the English language from time to time myself ("yoo-mid" for humid, "Yoo-ston" for Houston, etc.), but I lived my whole life not realizing that what I thought was actually an ignorant mispronunciation of the state of Nevada's name was actually the one acceptable to the people in the state! Anyway, I just find this interesting...
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 04:54 PM
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10. 1200 protestors out in front of The Venetian
during his FIRST fucking visit to this state since he was s-elected.

Oh, yeah, in bush-speak, that's Thee Vee-nee-tee-ann in Lass Vee-gas.
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trapper914 Donating Member (796 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 05:14 PM
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12. Oh sure!
Bust him on this, but give him a three year pass on his Homer Simpson-esque pronounciation of "nuclear."
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 05:17 PM
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13. Here's my LTTE, sent to the LV Sun
They've printed my letters before. Maybe this one will get through as well:

No, Mr Boosh, It's Not Ne-vah-da!

Editor,

So our president - who astounded the media with his rote pronunciation of hard-to-say names of foreign heads-of-state during campaign 2000 - highlighted his first post-election trip to our state by continually mispronouncing Nevada as "Ne-vah-da." (Story: SF Gate, 11/26/03)

So much for that vaunted "Hah-vahd" education!

But maybe we should cut him some slack. Any guy who habitually mispronounces nuclear as "nuke-u-lar" obviously has trouble with three-syllable words - or maybe it's just that he really doesn't care enough about either subject to get it right in the first place. Why else conspicuously ignore our state for the past three years - except to break his campaign promise to trust the science on Yucca Mountain...and to leave no fund-raiser behind? Anyone see a pattern here?

Unlike Mr Bush, we Nevadans have no such problems when it comes to pronouncing well-known words, no more so than when it comes to pronouncing the names of presidents - which in this case is "Bush," as in, "bush league."

XXXXXXX
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 05:17 PM
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14. Oh, I though only the ignorant ones said Nevada.....
I always say Nevahda.......

:freak:

I learn something new every day around here!

DemEx
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 05:44 PM
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16. It's like the Cannes Film Festival
It's pronounced "can," but many mis-under-edumercated types mispronounce it as "Cahn."

BTW - that's a different town in Basse-Normandie (the northwest of France), ie: Caen...which IS pronounced "Cahn."
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 05:55 PM
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18. You dummy. That's pronounced "Canneys."
Just kidding, I'm not calling anyone a dummy!
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karlschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 05:58 PM
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19. Well, it -is- a Spanish name, so nay-VAH-dah is actually correct.
:eyes:

Just means "snowy"
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 06:09 PM
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21. But, we've been getting it wrong for years!
We speak American out here. :-)
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karlschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 06:49 PM
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28. Well, I'd eat a plate of catshit before I'd defend Shrub, but there's not
much agreement on pronouncement of very many "american" words (I don't know what that means, anyway). The river that runs by here is called the AR-kan-saw here in Oklahoma but our neighbors to the north call it the ar-KAN-zas. Then there is cah-la-rah-do on the western border, or is it ko-ler-ay-do? Depends on who you ask. And the "x" in Texas and New Mexico is almost never pronounced the way it really should be.

And of course some folks pronounce Montrechet mont-retch-it and fillet as fill-it.

It's bad enough that most Americans are barely monolingual as opposed to the majority of the world's people, they're generally too lazy (or ethnocentric, as if they were actually ethnic Americans) to properly say words that belong to another culture even as they are appropriated into our own cobbled vocabulary.

</mini-rant>
;-)

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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 07:30 PM
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33. I'm an authority on everything,
and it's AR-kan-saw, kawl-ler-RAH-do, and neh-VA-duh. :)
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karlschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 07:43 PM
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34. But you didn't specify whether the A in VA is long or short!
giggle
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Sick of Bullshit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 06:39 PM
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25. Actually, to make it true Spanish pronunciation,
you would have to pronounce the "v" like a "b", and pronounce the "e" like a long "a"

Nay-BAH-dah
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Castilleja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 11:08 PM
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41. and don't forget the "th" for the "D" !
N/T
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 06:54 PM
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29. But everything has been anglicized (Americanized?) here.
How do you pronounce Notre Dame...if it's an American football team?

How do you pronounce Celtics...if it's a basketball team?

Who's that quarterback up in Green Bay?

What's that city in Missouri? St Louis? And how do YOU pronounce Missouri? Or Louisiana?

Bush got it wrong, which is typical.
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Castilleja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 11:06 PM
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40. Nevahda, well that makes me feel better, then
I always thought it was Nevahda as well. To be honest, when I hear Nevada pronounced as y'all are saying, sounds like a spanish word being mispronounced by someone from up north. Is it really a Spanish word? If so, then it has probably been anglicized in a typical flat vowel way. Lots of Spanish place names here in Texas have suffered that. I'll watch here and see what the consensus is....
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 06:04 PM
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20. You all must be the same people
who say cohl-o-raw-do and or-e-gone.

To Westerners, it's a dead giveaway.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 06:23 PM
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22. I guess it's too much to ask
to have a president who can actually pronounce the states in our country. It's certainly too much to expect of this very limited individual.
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Panda1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 06:31 PM
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23. His accent is fake anyway
He was born in Connecticut with a silver swastika lodged between his gums. Hence the difficulty speaking. The rest of his "family" doesn't have the fake, affected "twang" he uses to pretend he's "normal" to Middle Merka. Fake accent, fake ranch, fake compassion, fake stolen presidency.

Sometimes he slips up and reveals his snotty-boy prep school roots.
Most of what Lieboy utters is mangled and criminal.

We in CA must now endure "Cally-fohrn-yah" from another desecrator of the language. Ahnuld, not native born, has an excuse.
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RowWellandLive Donating Member (531 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 06:32 PM
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24. I'm ashamed to say
that I pronounce it just like Bush. Had no idea I was wrong all these years.
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 06:45 PM
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26. Hmmm...
I didn't realize there was another way to prounounce Nevada. Based on this article, maybe it Na-mbla-va.
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booksenkatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 07:01 PM
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30. "Ne VAD uh" hurts my Texas ears
I can't blame the sockpuppet for this one, "Ne VAH duh" is just the way we Texans pronounce it, and we don't give a rat's bohiney how y'all WANT it pronounced. You'll get "Ne VAH duh" from us and you'll like it.



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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 07:24 PM
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32. i think the point is that, as usual, he is not caring enough to research
or prepare in such a way as to avoid offending people. he's the president, not some dude from texas.
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karlschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 08:55 PM
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37. But, isn't "a dude from Texas" precisely the image he attempts to project?
I gotta tell you people, if this is the best indictment you can come up for the piece of shit squatting in the White House, you're gonna have 4 more years to think of something better.
:grr:
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 09:07 PM
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38. rhyming rule a native taught me
It's Nevada "what's-a-matta" instead of
Nevada "why-I-oughta"
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johnnywalker Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 10:47 PM
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39. Nevada
Edited on Wed Nov-26-03 10:57 PM by johnnywalker
I used to work in Reno, on the radio. I said Na-vod-dah one morning and someone called up to want to know who the town idiot was. He wanted to know where the "o" was in Nevada. I looked it up in several dictionaries, either pronunciation was acceptable. get over yourself.
ps I loved working there.
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October Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 11:49 PM
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42. You say potato...
Nevada...Nevah-da?

Washington...Warshington?

It's endless. Most of us have some sort of regional accent (though I've never heard anything quite like *'s.)

Do you guys have any idea how Philadelphians pronounce their city's name?

Fluffya

And everyone knows New Yorkers say "New Yawk" when referencing their own fair city.

I won't even get into the whole NJ thing.


What's with all the eastern seaboard slurs already?

LBN?
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patcox2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 11:56 PM
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43. Get over yourselves, indeed, nevahdians
Just because you like mispronouncing the name of your state, don't get all uppity and insist others must share your mistake. I am amused by the comments about how "westerners" think its a sure sign of eastern ignorance when educated people pronounce your state names in ways that you don't like. Sorry to give the bad news, but you have assimilated a bit too much of the pervasive american anti-intellectualism. Regional chauvanism is as offensive as any other kind. Seems to me that Nevahdu, in particular, is a place where because of massive immigration, 90% of people are not native born. There's a lot of "I was here before you" attitude. Therefore, many Nevahdians feel an intense need to identify themselves and mark themselves apart from ignorant outsiders and newcomers, hence this obsessiveness about their beloved mispronunciation of the name of their state. Y'all are just using it as a badge of identity to mark those who have lived there 6 months as different from and superior to those who have only lived there two weeks or are only visiting. Puh leeze. These comments drip with yahoo provincialism and anti-intellectualism. You sound just like GWB himself when he bitches about yankees and how they don't understand Texas.
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Kinkistyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 12:24 AM
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44. Didn't he dump a bunch of nuclear waster in Nevada...
after he promised not to during his campaign? I think the pronunciation of the state's name is the least of the grievances Nevadians should have with Shrub. Respect? HAH!
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arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 12:57 AM
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45. You said it, japanduh
Isn't he going to rip apart a mountain and fill it with toxic nucular waste? And they think he doesn't care much about the state because he can't pronounce it...
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NIGHT TRIPPER Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 02:01 AM
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46. Bush has a fake accent
He's not even from TEXAS.
He can't pronounce very many names of places in this world.

General Rule- the prefered pronunciation is the one the residents of the State use
Not tha wun yew say een Texus.
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montana_hazeleyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 03:09 AM
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48. Just think if he had had to try to pronounce
the name of State Senate Minority Leader Dina Titus!
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