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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 01:14 PM
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Big money subverts democracy, Timken tells $2,000 donors (at Cheney lunch)
Executive Tim Timken, one of President Bush's favorite Ohio fund-raisers, who recently helped raise $750,000 for the president, is offended by big campaign money.

Hosting a $2,000-per-person event Monday featuring Vice President Dick Cheney, Timken told an audience of Cleveland's wealthiest business and civic leaders that such money was intended to "subvert democracy" and was an "attempt to buy democracy."

Timken, of course, wasn't talking about his money, or that of other Republicans who filled a banquet room at the Cleveland Clinic's InterContinental Hotel & Conference Center. He was referring to more than $12 million that liberal philanthropist and billionaire Peter Lewis has pledged to give to organizations such as MoveOn.org that oppose the president.

Timken didn't mention Lewis by name, but he referred to him as an Ohioan who is one of several people in the country writing large checks to defeat the president. To counter such an effort, Timken said, Republicans need to continue to contribute money to Bush. The audience, missing the irony, applauded.

http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/107018834397642.xml
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 01:18 PM
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1. Timken is, I believe...
... also on the board of directors of Diebold, Inc.

These guys have no sense of irony....
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 01:54 PM
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5. bingo - yes, he is
w/149,414 shares + Timken 11,625 stock options to acquire within 60 days following February 27, 2003 (don't know if he did)

(Includes 96,593 shares (0.13%) in which Mr. Timken has shared voting power and shared investment power. Mr. Timken disclaims any beneficial ownership of 12,593 of these shares. Mr. Timken disclaims ownership of 2,000 shares owned by wife individually and 1,000 shares owned by wife’s individual retirement account.)

+ @$25,000-$30,000 for being on the Board



http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/28823/000095015203002697/l98127adef14a.htm#004

Diebold Board

Louis V. Bockius III, Christopher M. Connor, Richard L. Crandall, Gale S. Fitzgerald, Phillip B. Lassiter, John N. Lauer, William F. Massy, Walden W. O’Dell, Eric J. Roorda, W. R. Timken, Jr. and Henry D. G. Wallace

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AWD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 01:20 PM
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2. That guy's in my district...
...I have to fight personally against the money he contributes and the power he swings about in my county.

But rest assured, that quote will CERTAINLY be thrown about every chance I get.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 01:33 PM
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3. Good!
I hope it helps :hi:
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 01:46 PM
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4. ahh, the sweet stench of hypocrisy
thy name is Tim Timken.

http://www.zanesvilletimesrecorder.com/news/stories/20031031/localnews/555460.html

Bush event raises $1.4 million for campaign

COLUMBUS -- President Bush's campaign stop in downtown Columbus Thursday collected nearly $1.4 million for his re-election war chest and gave the candidate a chance to rally Republicans for next year's political battles.

...more...

http://www.dispatch.com/news/newsfea00/nov00/483047.html

Republicans win money race by a 4-1 landslide in Ohio

Led by 30 donors who wrote checks of $100,000 or more, the GOP has dominated the struggle for campaign cash in Ohio as in no other major state.

Although Ohio is regarded as one of the strongest two-party states in the nation, the Republicans have grabbed roughly four times as many Buckeye bucks as the Democrats, according to the Center for Responsive Politics, a nonpartisan Washington group that studies campaign finances.

That margin tops even the GOP's performance in Bush's home state of Texas.

<snip>

Most of the $33 million in Ohio contributions through Sept. 30 has flowed to party organizations in the form of largely unregulated soft money. The Republican National Committee has reaped more than $9 million from the state -- including $1.6 million on a single day earlier this year -- according to data provided to The Dispatch by the Campaign Study Group of suburban Washington.

...more...

http://216.239.37.104/search?q=cache:TRS097txujsJ:www.rushfordreport.com/2001/01_Publius.htm+Tim+Timken+campaign+contributions&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

The new law requires the U.S. Treasury to pay millions of dollars in tariffs collected in antidumping cases directly to the domestic lobbies (including campaign contributors to both senators) that brought the cases. Talk about theft.
DeWine, who chairs a Judiciary subcommittee on antitrust law, must know better. Every antitrust authority I’ve ever met understands why respectable the antidumpint laws are regarded in respectable economics circles the antitrust laws’ evil twin. DeWine’s antidumping position was tailored to please influential campaign contributors such as Tim Timken, of the Timken Company (and chairman of the National Association of Manufacturers). The senator had to know that the measure would hurt other, more important, Ohio businesses — from Procter & Gamble to precision metalformers and many other smaller enterprises in Ohio that depend upon free trade.


...more...

I declare irony to be not dead, but alive and flourishing.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 02:50 PM
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6. republicans have lost the ability to think
that's why they missed the irony.

I turned on C-span yesterday and saw this ridiculous banquet celebration of the 50th anniversary of some stupid conservative organization.

The speakers were all saying all these things that were obviously not true about the conservative movement, made no sense really, but the audience kept applauding. God they must have been bored, how can they sit through pure nonsense like that?
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pfitz59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 01:48 AM
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16. Intercollegiate Studies Institute! (I.S.I)
Brownshirts on campus or campus Crusade for Fascism! Horrible people!
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Kinkistyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 04:15 AM
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19. Poor reasoning ability or sense of cognitive dissonance.
Edited on Mon Dec-01-03 04:15 AM by japanduh
I believe the lack of critical thinking runs rampant amongst the Republicans and especially the Fundamentalists. Which reminds me, isn't Cleveland a hotbed for the teaching of "Intelligent Design (Creationism)" in science classes?
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 03:20 PM
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7. W.R. (Tim) Timkin is high on my list of dubious Bush associates
"April 22, 2003 - William R. Timken, Jr., of Canton, Ohio, Thomas W. Grant, of New York City, New York, and Noe Hinojosa, Jr., of Dallas, Texas were confirmed by the U.S. Senate on April 8, 2003, to serve as the newest directors of the Securities Investor Protection Corporation (SIPC), which maintains a special reserve fund authorized by Congress to help investors at failed brokerage firms. On April 10, 2003, President George W. Bush signed the appointments, clearing the way for Timken to assume his responsibilities as the new chairman of the SIPC board of directors."

He's also on the Board of Overseers of the Hoover Institution at Stanford -- a name that comes up often in connection with right-wing figures.

His great-grandfather invented an improved roller bearing in 1898. By the 1920's, the company was making 90% of the roller bearings in the US and the Timkin family was becoming active in Republican politics. It seems like Tim is just carrying on an old family tradition.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 03:44 PM
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8. Awwww.....the GOP has their own Tiny Tim
...alms for the poor GOP anyone?
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 03:55 PM
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9. Having personally sold well over $1 million
worth of Timken products over the years, I find the irony both delicious and saddening.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 04:22 PM
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11. You're working for this guy?
How can you stand it?
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 04:38 PM
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12. No
I worked in auto and truck parts. I worked for the middleman. Fourteen years.

My point is that Timken products are everywhere, they have 90% of the bearing market. If you own a car, truck, lawn mower, or any other piece of machinery, you are a Timken customer, too. Even if you don't own any of these, your food is harvested using them, and it is transported to your food market using them. There's no escaping it.
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karlschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 05:07 PM
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14. And I regret to admit I have bought probably a $million of their roller
bearings...mainly because nobody else made them in the sizes we needed.
:grr:
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 04:22 PM
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10. ROFL!
My GOD. I, literally, don't think I've ever seen such blatant hypocrisy and stupidity.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 04:49 PM
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13. Hypocrisy....thy name is Republican!
WOW... Another liberal billionaire, Peter Lewis, joining the fight for liberty and putting up big Money. $12Million from Lewis, $10Million from George Soros...money to be used to defeat bush* and the NeoCons....I hope this catches on.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 12:34 AM
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15. How Much is 480,309 minutes of free advertising from FoxNews worth to *?
not to mention what he'll get from MSGOP and the others.
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 02:15 AM
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17. Repukian money = gooood
Democratic money = treason

The reason they fail to see the irony is because there is a great big greedy LOG covering their eyes.
It's all about fearing real freedom for the 'people'.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 04:11 AM
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18. Follow the BIG money here
Opensecrets.org--Money in politics data
http://www.opensecrets.org/

and remember when you write out checks to Bush or the GOP - Halliburton is spelled with 2 L's
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 04:29 AM
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20. i'm sure that in his own mind, Timken believes his rhetoric, but these
demonstrations of brainwashing of even able-bodied businessmen show the dire need for removing bush next year. think about it... moveon is funded by tiny donations made by individuals... millions of them... many times more people than will ever donate to the bushco campaign for election. moveon IS democracy in action. when billionaires offer matching funds to an organization founded in being the voice of the people, the billionaires' money becomes an amplifier of the voice of the people.

the brainwashing never ends in the GOP. they chant their mantras, they huddle and promise to support each other "no matter what," and, in the end, watch as their moral compasses spin wildly, not knowing what is right anymore, having become exactly what bushco wanted... rich, unthinking sheeple. you see, it's not just greed that drives these people. they allow themselves to be blinded. they allow themselves to be led by the nose. these rich donors to bushco's cause are just as much sheeple as the poor dreamers who listen to rush limbaugh's hillbilly heroin-induced rants and "want to believe," who end up supporting completely misguided ideas like the repeal of the "death tax," one of the myths of the far right that plays on the irrational dreams of blue-collar workers growing up to be billionaires.
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annagull Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 04:45 AM
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21. Oh to be a fly on the wall of the breakfast table
when these idiotic wealthy businessmen open up their Cleveland Plain Dealer and read what dumbasses they really are.
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