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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:07 AM
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(Rep) Shays: Page Scandal Isn't Chappaquiddick

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=2553722

Shays: Page Scandal Isn't Chappaquiddick
Republican Invokes Chappaquiddick Against Democratic Rival, Says No One Died in Page Scandal


HARTFORD, Conn. Oct 11, 2006 (AP)— Republican Rep. Christopher Shays defended the House speaker's handling of a congressional page scandal, saying no one died like at Chappaquiddick in 1969 when Democratic Sen. Ted Kennedy was involved.

"I know the speaker didn't go over a bridge and leave a young person in the water, and then have a press conference the next day," the embattled Connecticut congressman told The Hartford Courant in remarks published Wednesday.

"Dennis Hastert didn't kill anybody," he added.

Shays' comments recalled the Chappaquiddick incident, when Kennedy's car ran off a Massachusetts bridge, killing his passenger, Mary Jo Kopechne. Kennedy did not immediately report the tragedy, and later pleaded guilty to leaving the scene of an accident.

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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:08 AM
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1. So they had to go back to 1969.
Why not go back to slavery and say, the page scandal wasn't that bad compared? How about the revolutionary war?
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:09 AM
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4. No, the Page scandal is much more serious
and probably involves a number of Republican officials.

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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 04:45 PM
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44. That's so pathetic, why not go back to President Cleveland
and his alleged bastard child.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 06:36 PM
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45. Maybe that's next.
These people don't seem to have any bottom line.
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Sapere aude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:09 AM
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2. What pathetic pieces of dung these repukes are.
"Don't pay attention to what we do wrong, someone else did something worse. Just vote for us no matter what we do."
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:09 AM
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3. Shays - proving that even "moderate" Rs are total assholes.
How is Chappaquiddick even remotely related to the Foley scandal?
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:51 AM
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22. Chappaquiddick isn't even a scandal to anyone with a brain n/t
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bumblebee1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:10 AM
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5. They seem to forget one other thing.
Mary Jo K was also an adult. Her death was also tragic.
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:10 AM
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6. He's right
It isn't one unfortunate episode, it's a history of sexual harassment covered up by the top figures in the Repuke party. Very, very different.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:11 AM
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7. Laura Bush killed her ex-boyfriend.Jeff Gannon's 19 White House SleepOvers
Edited on Wed Oct-11-06 11:12 AM by IanDB1
Bush had oral sex with the guy he appointed Ambasador to Poland.

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 12:53 PM
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26. Back up to the Ambassador to Poland.
Say what?
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 01:02 PM
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27. See this posting from Leola McConnell on the Air America Blog
Edited on Wed Oct-11-06 01:07 PM by IanDB1
Leola McConnell, Democratic candidate for Governor of Nevada (who has been endorsed by WMR). McConnell is a one-time professional dominatrix.

"President Bush's speech to the nation Monday. If he doesn't say he's a gay American or at the least a bisexual one then he shouldn't be making one at all. And the notion that it would be in regards to writing bigotry into our nation's Constitution is reprehensible. Too bad it isn't me doing the rebuttal because in 1984, I watched him perform (with the enthusiasm of homosexual male who had done this many times before) a homosexual act on another man, namely Victor Ashe. Victor Ashe is the current Ambassador to the nation of Poland who should also come out like former Governor McGreevey of New Jersey and admit to being a gay American. Other homo-erotic acts were also performed by then private citizen George Bush because I performed one of them on him personally.

I am the woman this website
(http://bushssecretlifein84.tripod.com/) speaks of that has been posted on the net nearly two years now. None of this would be the business of anyone but President Bush's little ruse to save his failed presidency by using DOMA to divide Americans one from the other has to be exposed as the act of a desperate closeted homosexual man. The only crime in being GLBT is in the hiding. The President needs to come clean with the American people about his own past sexual behavior before he tries to besmirch the humanity of people in search of sincerely committing to the same bonds of matrimony he's afforded. He violated his own vows of monogamy having a homosexual affair with a long time family friend of whom his wife had no knowledge. His hypocrisy seems to know no bounds.

I had planned to run for governor of Nevada without going into any of this but his planned nationally televised address to the nation makes it necessary for me to address his attempt at division in as public a way as he picked to try this Bushification of reality regarding same sex marriages.

Sincerely,
Leola McConnell
Liberal Democratic candidate for Governor of Nevada

More:
http://www.airamerica.com/maddow/node/1825




Leola McConnell
Liberal Democrat for Governor of Nevada, 2006
Thank You to all those who supported me.
(5,022 Nevadans)


Leola McConnell will post a statement shortly.
Here are the State of Nevada's 'Unofficial' Statewide Primary Election Results for August 15, 2006

....."Only an eerie Silence." Democrats, Independents and Republicans -- Please Read. The New Right agenda I call 'Bushification' must be stopped. A Congressman Jim 'There's No War in Iraq' Gibbons will insure Bushification.

More:
http://mcconnellforgovernor.com/


Leola only got 4.22% of the primary votes (5,019).
"None of These Candidates" got 5.93%

But if she runs again, I'm donating!
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 07:39 PM
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48. Victory Ass
And in a coffin to boot.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:11 AM
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8. It's not Watergate either
But it will have to do.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:11 AM
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9. Signs of desperation here ... nt
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:12 AM
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10. I know that Hastert didn't run down his former boyfriend and kill him.
But Laura did.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:15 AM
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11. Doesn't wash. Accidental vs. intentional. Shays just sealed his fate,
I think. I guess the gloves are off now.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 01:03 PM
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28. good catch ... eom
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 02:43 PM
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35. it's also non sequiter and tu quoque
Edited on Wed Oct-11-06 02:44 PM by 0rganism
It's rare to see the two combined in such a high-profile way, apparently the pukes are willing to try anything to shake this scandal off.

I'm sure Shays knows as well as anyone that Hastert's problems in this context have to do with the cover-up, but the GOP is in full damage control mode.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:17 AM
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12. Chappaquiddick
was an accident. Nothing accidental about Foley's behavior or the cover-up.

Guess if defecting attention using Clinton isn't enough, then throw in a Kennedy.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:19 AM
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13. Do these guys realize how many people weren't even born yet in 1969?
Talk about scraping the barrel!
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:22 AM
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14. This should be the end of Shays. This will be a good commercial.
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DisgustedTX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:33 AM
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15. Shays: "we just enjoy fu**ing young boys"
Pathetic.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:35 AM
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16. Didn't run over and kill an ex-boyfriend either.
Or get drunk and mow down a motorcyclist. That doesn't mean that what he did was okay.

The party of personal responsibility is like a whiny brat who says "yeah, but look what he did" when he gets caught doing something bad. It's really getting pathetic.

Did the Democrats ever try to excuse the bad behavior of one of their own by bringing up something a Republican did 30 or 40 years ago?
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Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:50 AM
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19. Not so off topic, but
your 'toon cracks me up!
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:52 AM
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23. Thank you. I hope plenty of lurking Freepers see it
and get really pissed because of how close to home it hits. :evilgrin:
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:45 AM
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17. No, I don't remember the House leadership covering up for Chappaquiddick
I guess they want us to forget that part of the page scandal...

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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 01:15 PM
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29. That's just it. Chappaquiddick was & continues to be a
serious sttain on Senator Kennedy's character, but there was no coverup by the Democratic leadership.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:49 AM
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18. Republicans will Say Anything (nt)
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:50 AM
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20. Christopher Shays = raving mad nut - shame on you shays, shame
as for your party of filthy little maggots known as republicans, Ted Kennedy can not be expected to be a rescue diver, that drivel from your sick evil mouths I've listened to all my life and I'm so god damned sick of it.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:51 AM
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21. Pathetic!
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 12:15 PM
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24. moderate Rebublican - there is no such animal. n/t
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 12:44 PM
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25. Neither did he ditch a plane in the ocean and leave the navigator
to drown as poppy did in 1943. As long as we're digging back decades.
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 01:24 PM
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30. He's right. It's not Chappaquiddick.
It was no accident. It was premeditated and happened many times over a period of years, not just once in a matter of moments.
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olshak Donating Member (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 02:33 PM
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32. Thanks...
I'm glad someone finally said this.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 02:32 PM
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31. Those will be Shays' famous last words that bring him down completely.
Ugly words from a desperate man who has now shown his constituents how low his politics can go.

Mark my words, he just shit on his own doorstep and dragged it into his house. He's done.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 02:38 PM
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33. Because Dem leaders didn't CONCEAL Chappaquiddick for 5 years...?
Because the Chappaquiddick incident was a one-time accident,
not a life-long habit which was well-known to senior Party
officials?

Or is there some other difference I'm missing here?
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 02:41 PM
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34. You're absolutely right Mr. Shays.....
It's a hell of alot worse.

Ted Kennedy's passinger was a consenting adult. Those pages were under the age of 18.

Nuff said!
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 02:50 PM
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36. thanks, I just sent this to Diane Farrell's camp, maybe they can use it
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 02:55 PM
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37. Neither was Monicagate
and the rethugs went berserk over it and impeached Clinton.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 02:58 PM
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38. MUCH WORSE --- PEDOPHILES n/t
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 03:00 PM
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39. Oh, that's a good one. If nobody dies, it's OK...
...give me a break. :sarcasm:
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greeneyedboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 03:07 PM
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40. hahahaha. is that the best they can do? seriously? pathetic.
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 03:10 PM
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41. So preying upon, stalking and
grooming teenagers is not all that important to Shays? Yeah we need the likes of him in congress.

What some people won't say to point the finger at someone else. Even when it makes an ass out of themselves.

Pretty sad when you are the so called christian values party and children are not safe from your very own sexual predator. Remind me to never get those hypocritical republican values.
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Bark Bark Bark Donating Member (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 03:15 PM
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42. Normally, Dems Are PURE EVIL...But:
...The second Republiscum are caught, Dems become the bar, the standard.

Of course you've noticed it: when another of Bush's failures manifests itself, the media asks not "why hasn't Bush fixed this in the past six years," but "why didn't Clinton do anything about this six years ago?" And when a Republiscum gets caught doing something illegal, his fellows immediately try to douse the uproar with "Clinton had sex!! Clinton had SEX!!"

Some days, we're the filth of the earth. And some days, the GOP thinks it's unfair to expect them to do any better. Funny, hah?
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 03:17 PM
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43. And furthermore, it's not Teapot Dome either! Or the XYZ Affair!
So there. :silly:
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 07:14 PM
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46. Repubs are getting desparate - Gawd they never leave
anything a Dem did that was bad go.

And you know what Shays, as others pointed out Kennedy's case was an accident(though I still think his behavior was reprehensible that night). I have never defended Kennedy on this and I think he got away with manslaughter and DUI because he was a Kennedy. Shrub got away with a lot of bad behavior reported and not-reported cause he was a Bush.

1969 was a different time. If Kennedy had this accident from 92 on I doubt he'd still be a Senator and I think he would've done some time in prison or been on probation. You can damn well bet he'd have landed immediately in a Rehab clinic.

Your guy did the crime - you guys need to own it and stop trying to dredge up every Dem crime or foible. I thought Repukes brag about being "the party of personal responsibility". :sarcasm:
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 07:37 PM
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47. But...is is Armageddon?
or a picnic at Hanging Rock? or a day at the races? or the time of our lives?
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 08:31 PM
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49. Wow! They're getting desperate. They're beyond Clinton's Penis
and going back almost 40 years. Oh yeah, they're really gonna keep Congress now!
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bronxiteforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 08:53 PM
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50. Shays killed people in Iraq
Shays article from 2003-"He praised the military for its success in Iraq and pointed out the important role women in the military played in winning the war. He also predicted U.S. forces will find evidence of weapons of mass destruction, but said it may take time."
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