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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 12:59 PM
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1 Man Still Locked Up From 9/11 Sweeps
October 14, 2006

In a jail cell at an immigration detention center in Arizona sits a man who is not charged with a crime, not suspected of a crime, not considered a danger to society.

But he has been in custody for five years.

His name is Ali Partovi. And according to the Department of Homeland Security, he is the last to be held of about 1,200 Arab and Muslim men swept up by authorities in the United States after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks.

There has been no full accounting of all of these individuals. Nor has a promised federal policy to protect against unrestricted sweeps been produced.

Human rights groups tried to track the detainees; members of Congress denounced the arrests. They all believed that all of those who had been arrested had been deported, released or processed through the criminal justice system.

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sns-ap-detained-indefinitely,0,3207159.story?coll=sns-ap-nation-headlines


How many other political prisoners are still 'lost' in the system?
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 01:03 PM
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1. It's quite common for people to just disappear in police states,
and that is what the United States is becoming.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 01:03 PM
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2. duplicate
Edited on Sat Oct-14-06 01:05 PM by Benhurst
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vickitulsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 01:56 PM
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3. We can hardly be shocked -- but we should be outraged.
If this man is not a terrorist and no criminal case can be brought against him, then we can add him to the long list of illegally held former suspects in this country.

I really don't think most Americans have a clue about just how dangerous are the precedents our government is setting these days. And when no one cares or even notices abuses like this, it's certain they will continue and increase in number.

From the article:

"Those 1,200 were taken in on pseudo-immigration charges," said Jennifer Daskal of Human Rights Watch. "It really is a black mark on the U.S. and it undermines our intelligence gathering because it creates distrust between law enforcement officials and communities where those officials should be building rapport and trust."

"People lost years of their lives and families were ripped apart in the frenzy of fear," said Kerri Sherlock, director of policy and planning at the Rights Working Group, an advocacy organization in Washington D.C. "Do we really want to be a country that locks people up without guaranteeing their basic constitutional rights?"


Let's see ... they were rounded up during a panic, and arrests were made on immigration charges that were patently bogus from the start. This administration counted on the fear of the people to permit illegal detentions without protest.

And to cover their actions from there, a wide variety of police agencies have surely relied upon Americans' habit of forgetting everyone who is incarcerated in this country.

Looks like they figured correctly on every count.

Once a person is imprisoned in America, it's like s/he ceases to exist in the minds of most citizens.


What disturbs me most about Partovi's case is that drawing attention to situations like his does not even begin to address the ironically outrageous injustice of untold thousands of citizens AND aliens who are locked away and forgotten in our prisons for the same sorts of crimes that politicians get away with on a regular basis.

The government's reliance on invoking its own fraudulent "drug war" has allowed officials to wrongfully imprison individuals for a very long time, for starters, and this practice predates the current fear-and-terror atmosphere. But there are also the many types of sex crimes for which "regular people" are jailed while politicians caught doing the same thing simply resign and seek refuge in a "rehab clinic."

It's like we don't even EXPECT charges to be brought against such offenders as Foley -- like resignation from their seat in government is punishment enough no matter how serious their crimes are!

This situation is more than disgraceful -- it's a deadly serious threat to every one of us! And there is no end of these practices in sight because almost no one is even protesting them.

We should all heed Rev. Neimoller's warning, often quoted by those who would remind us of Nazi abuses. If we keep standing by silently when various groups among us are rounded up and taken away, who WILL be left to speak up for us when they finally come for US?......







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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 02:44 PM
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4. Then we don't need just cause to arrest and detain Bush, Cheney et al.
Edited on Sat Oct-14-06 02:54 PM by Dover
Not that their list of criminal activities isn't more than enough to lock them up. But wouldn't the "police-staters" be the first to cry bloody murder if they were detained without cause, subjected to torture,etc. That would be justice, applying their own policies to them.

Of course this kind of behavior is only acceptable in dictatorships and societies that don't provide rights for its citizens. That's what the U.S. has become, all based on the excuse that they are providing security. Isn't that ironic.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 04:01 PM
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5. how many old hippies are still locked up in TX's for 99 yrs for a seed.???
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 04:04 PM
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6. Found under the floor mat.
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allisonthegreat Donating Member (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 04:05 PM
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7. I bet that is true...n/t
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northamericancitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 04:14 PM
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8. K & R
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 04:39 PM
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9. A lot of them got deported
It happened to a man in my community. He was here legally and had been for some 15 years or something. I don't think he had citizenship but he must have had a green card. I don't remember the details of his status. But his 4 or 5 kids were all born here.

He got some local press after being detained, and there were hundreds of supporters who would show up at any court appearances in support. He was very active in the local Muslim community. After a year or more of detention with legal ambiguity and very little communication with his family or access to lawyers, he was deported on an absurd charge. His wife and children were allowed to stay, but I am pretty sure they left too..

:(
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