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Is "perfectly adequate" one of those oxymoronic doublespeak phrases people use to keep the commoners in line?
I disagree with it anyway. His/her post was not perfect, there is no such thing in my experience.
The other poster wrote what he/she wrote. He/she and another poster seemed to be ganging up on the other person expressing their view. I responded to his post with what was in my mind and memory of video stores that have never had any porn for rent. Perhaps those video rental stores have changed, it's been some time since I've been in one, but I rather doubt the underlying reason for the lack of porn in "video stores" has changed, which is likely legal in nature, though I'm no legal expert. Mongo would know the legalities. If I want a DVD, I buy it instead of renting it, and the stores that sell DVDs where "I" occasionally buy a movie do not have pornography for me or anyone else to buy.
It's possible the other poster is in another country with different laws, but if so, that poster didn't specify that. Perhaps the phenomenon I'm noting regarding lack of pornography in these various stores I visit is more local in nature, and that poster is somewhere other than where I am located in the U.S. It's hard to guess.
Clarification is not an attack. It seems his/her statement is inaccurate at best. You jumped to his/her defense, without even thinking about what he/she wrote just like you failed to comprehend what I wrote. I note that you were quick to jump the gun in regards to who failed in their comprehension, this is a trick of psyoperators that I've seen here many times on DU. That and the ganging up on a poster expressing the objection, which they have a right to do. Dissent is good, remember? Apparently not. Since when is pointing out the reason why someone doesn't visit a site as much as one used to an "ad hominem" attack? Or any kind of attack? It is simply a true statement that should be verifiable by moderators so inclined to investigate it. However, the republicans in office, that we all wish to get rid of soon, have often been accused of making ad hominem attacks, the very thing they publicly accuse their opponents of doing.
"Nothing else needs to be said except by religious wing nuts."
Ah, yes, so the implication is that if I defend myself against your psychological warfare, I must be a religious wing nut. Nope. Guess again.
You claim I "completely failed to make a point."
Read that statement of mine again, and perhaps you will see a significant, albeit brief, argument of government hypocrisy. If the first poster's brief statement is "perfectly adequate" and since I "rattled off some oblique, ad hominem attack on DU" when I make long-term observations of community and a truthful statement about my recent participation, then surely your lack of understanding of the point I did make has nothing to do with its brevity. Here's what I wrote that I refer to: "While it's likely expressed below somewhere, the juxtaposition of allowing gross violence in so many movies, but not allowing sex, or only allowing sex in a defined subset of movies, could have been such a well fleshed out concept on DU in its old days of nuanced and thoughtful writing."
1a) We have a government which is involved in a war of lies in Iraq. 1b) The government used the media to propagate the lie of WMD to the populace and evidently to congress and the UN. 1c) We have censored news. 1d) We have a government that evidently approves of much violence in movies, judging by the violence I see in them regularly. 2a) We also have a government that seems to disapprove of pornography, but doesn't seem to be able to do much about it. 2b) We have a government that sets out bureaucratic fines when a nipple is shown in the middle of a violent football game (Janet Jackson is who I have in mind). 2c) We have a culture that thinks there's something wrong with feeding babies mothers milk from mother's nipple, judging from formula use statistics I've seen, which is good for certain large corporations selling formula, so it's not that far a jump to wonder, with all of the other manipulations, if the culture has been manipulated to be against the public breast feeding of babies.
Conclusion: It seems the message of our government (which is known to lie to the people--seemingly routinely), their main bullhorn being the TV media opiate supported by advertisers of its corporatist network, is that violence is good, but that humans natural love, or even lust, and feeding the potential child therefrom is bad, unless that food comes from corporate. Accidents happen and birth control isn't 100%.
This means we have a deliberately manipulated visual media presented to our mirror neurons--psyops.
5a) We have schools that put children in rooms to shower together (gym class), that at least when I was a kid was forced and mandatory even when we objected to it with all of our willpower. 5b) We have schools that have punished kids with expulsion who are caught having sex. 6) In the past, and only with some very recent breaks in the legal dam, our government has not supported the sexual rights of gay people, only a narrowly defined group of breeders.
Conclusion: Our corporatist has been molding the minds of us and our children at least since the beginning of TV in ways that are quite familiar to us--psyops.
My personal view of porn is that they are short visual stimuli, not really movies per se because they are largely lacking in plot and story substance. They seem designed to influence us at the level of our lowest animal nature utilizing mirror neurons in our own brains. Fuck and fuck some more -- because that's what the synthetic image fed to our minds is designed to do, elicit a known animal response. At the same time they only show the same thing every farm boy and/or girl has seen most any pair of non-human animals do from time to time. It is a part of our animal natures, as well, and I mean this in an inalienable rights sense.
If anything, violence in movies is much more repugnant to me, and I watch violent movies from time to time, I can't seem to get away from them because most often movies with intelligent plots and story lines don't seem to make it through to mass-distribution without violence included in them for some reason.
Conclusion In a country that idolizes war as much as we do, the reason we're shown these violent images for our own mirror neurons to fire is obvious. It's psychological warfare to condition a pacified populace to accept violence as part of life.
Possible problem: earth's environment. We have too many people.
I do worry that since it's obvious we do not have a free media (in either a liberty or money sense), then a controlled media that's distributing pornography and making it widely available (which it already is) will have the consequence of stimulating conception overall, likely in those who are too caught up in the moment to think of using birth control, or the young that don't understand the consequences, therefore, it's a matter for the regulators to weigh, but it's already legal AFAIK for 'adults' in most places I'm aware of. The environmental effects of even more people is likely dire if what our scientists tell us about the current population levels as unsustainable is true. What happens when post-puberty male and female underagers have it around them constantly? Do they start having more babies? If so, this could be a social cost from several standpoints. Perhaps the age of consent and financial responsibility will need to be slid downward to the average age of puberty to adjust.
This may also be the common ground with religious fundamentalists who want more people on the planet for the day when their savior arrives, and for the corporatist who benefits economically by an expanding populace. These would be the "leaders" of your signature.
Another place of commonality with religious fundamentalists is the pornography that I've seen seems patriarchal. A male and a female. A male and two or several females. But never two or several males and one female: Perhaps it exists in the pornography world (lots of things exist for connoisseurs that aren't 'common'), but I've never seen any with just two males, though I've heard that it exists and can probably found if one searches for it. My conclusion is that the type of pornography that is commonly available is skewed to pander to the fantasies of heterosexual males. This may be a marketing issue, or where the money in it seems to be, I don't know, and I don't really care, but it seems to be a problem when one considers that the common type of it seems sexually skewed.
From a mirror neuron standpoint, this artificial male/female ratio skew of common pornography would seem to be discriminatory.
Yet, in spite of this, if we desire to have a free country with free media in the liberty sense, I cannot object to pornography on logical grounds. That's my personal view. Comprehend?
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The only point you and I seem to agree upon, is that DU has changed, just like everything eventually changes.
Thanks for proving my original observation of psyops here on DU as truth, you weren't the first one I've tangled with, but you were the first to admit to it in writing.
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