After President Meets Reporters, Sullivan (Once a Bush Backer)..Suggests He May Have 'Lost His Mind'

[truthpusher]

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After President Meets Reporters, Sullivan -- Once a Bush Backer -- Now Suggests He May Have 'Lost His Mind'

By E&P Staff

Published: November 01, 2006 10:00 PM ET

NEW YORK In a move that no doubt sent a shiver through several candidates in his own party, President Bush, in a special interview with wire service reporters in the White House, today guaranteed a job for his Pentagon chief for two more years, adding that both Donald Rumsfeld and Vice President Cheney "are doing fantastic jobs and I strongly support them."

But it wasn't only endangered Republicans who have been calling for Rumsfeld's ouster who may have blanched. Andrew Sullivan, the conservative writer who was once a key media supporter for the Iraq war, denounced the latest Bush statement on CNN on Wednesday night, stating that the president is so delusional, "This is not an election anymore, it's an intervention."

Sullivan said the president was "so in denial," comparing the Rumsfeld endorsement to applauding the job FEMA's Michael Brown did on Katrina: "It's unhinged. It suggests this man has lost his mind. No one objectively could look at the way this war has been conducted, whether you were for it, as I was, or against it, and say that it has been done well. It's a disaster.

"For him to say it's a fantastic job suggests the president has lost it, I'm sorry, there's no other way to say it.....These people must be held accountable." He added that today, Richard Perle, a leading neocon and Iraq war backer, had today called the administration "dysfunctional."



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[OwnedByFerrets]

1. Hes been going around and doing

our work for us. I just hope he is the "average" conservative.

[sugapablo]

39. I raised the subject of Bush's mental state back in 2003

I was quite serious about it too:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics/msg/3f1926fa0dc33e14?dmode=source

I don't intend this post to be a flame of the President. This is not a
Dem vs. Repub argument, but a serious question as to the Presidents
mental well being and the constitutions remedy for such occurances.

It seems that our President, Mr. George W. Bush, is showing signs of
mental instability. And while I'm not a psychologist who could
articulate the situation better than myself, there is no doubt in my
mind that this situation raises concerns for the general public.

Before we get into the question of whether or not Mr. Bush is becoming
unstable, I'd like to discuss the consitutional process of such an
occurance. What does happen in our political process if an elected
official begins to show signs of instability? Is an impeachment process
the only legal course of action?

The impeachment process is slow. What if there was an acute
psychological breakdown? What if this breakdown cause a situation where
time was of the essence to remove the official immediately or suffer
terrible casualties? Could the VP remove the President from office in
such a situation if he felt lives were on the line? What would the
process be?

That being said, I do not believe Mr. Bush has suffered an acute
breakdown, or that he has become insane, but I believe he is on his way
to becoming unstable.

Since 9/11, the President's rhetoric has become indicitive of someone
who's religious beliefs are causing delusions of grandeur. It's similar
to the "Jerusalem Syndrome" where vistors to the holy city believe they
have been "chosen" to fulfill some edict of their deity, namely God.

Even religious leaders from around the country, once Bush's chief
champions, are beginning to become uneasy about the tone of the
President's recent remarks (see
http://www.post-gazette.com/nation/20030212bushreligious0212p6.asp ).

President Bush's recent statements and actions are quite indicitive of
someone who believes they are on a "mission from God" and "the world be
damned" if they disagree. From his own words, it's becoming more and
more difficult to see someone who is rational, logical, and conscious of
future consequenced of his actions.

While one would be hard pressed not to see leaders like Saddam Hussein
and Kim Jong Il as threats to world peace and stability, it is also
quite evident that President George W. Bush represents one of THE most
distabilizing and threatening leaders of the world today in terms of
world peace, security, and longevity.

This I say with complete sincerity and humility. I hope those who have
supported Mr. Bush in the past can at least consider what I have said
here. Don't just dismiss this becuase you're a Bush supporter or a
Republican. Really think about it. And ask yourself the key question
to ask about any leader: How does your life compare to the day before
Bush took office? Are you doing better? Worse? The same?

[JoFerret]

40. "Bush on the couch"

has some good analysis of his underlying mental issues.

When the Dems win the house and senate i think we can anticipate some real decompensation happening in the WH. if they are hunkered down paranoid now....I can only imagine what dangerous schemes they will plot.

[Tellurian]

46. Yes, good analysis under "normal" circumstances..

However, theres nothing "normal" about this administration.

We cannot remove Bush alone, the entire administration has to be removed in one felt swoop.
Otherwise, the chain of command moves up a notch and we're no better off then we were before.
After all, Cheney IS the "brain" behind the curtain of deception and the strong arm ordering
Rumsfeld. Bush is window dressing allowing Cheney the freedom to do his worst, unhampered by
public scrutiny and media interrogations.

[badgerpup]

59. I've been trying to convince people for the last two years he's unhinged.

If he wasn't sitting in the Oval Office, he'd be on some serious medication and he'd probably have a conservator to handle his affairs.

But since people have to address him as "Mr. President", we're expected not only to go along with but applaud and feed into his messianic delusions of grandeur...and he takes the whole damn country down with him.


HELLO??? THIS IS REALITY...ANYONE HOME???
:banghead: :hide::scared:

[neuvocat]

88. When dealing with pathological liars...

I've found that the people who lie so much get pretty deranged because they try to believe in their own lies.

[torrentprime]

74. Data point / anecdote

I've seen Sullivan speak, and the journey he has taken has been painful, and heart-felt. It also mirrors my own a bit.
I won't start some long self-justification as to why I used to be a Reublican (primarily because I don't feel I owe anyone an explanation), but it is worth noticing the number of prominent conservative pundits, commentators, former office holders who all find their voice now and say, "Enough." Many people who knew the downsides to GOP power never expected, not even for a moment, the "Govern to the margin/base" tactics taken, and the repressive, regressive social policy advanced by the GOP in the last few years. It's been a slow mounting sense of horror that led so many of us to first abandon the GOP and then, in my case, actively help the Democrats in order to speed the decline of the current GOP. Many of us have not and most likely will not abandon their conservative leanings, or in my case libertarian leanings, which never rested easy in the GOP anyway, but they (and I) regardless can no longer in conscience support the current in-power GOP.

[glitch]

75. Welcome to DU! I am a longtime Liberal, thought Bushco would be a disaster

and even I am astounded at how bad of a disaster they are. Glad to see you recognize them for what they are. Nobody likes Fascists (not even other Fascists). It will take all of us working together to get rid of them. :hi:

[northernsoul]

76. Welcome aboard!

I look forward to working alongside fellow patriots of all stripes who actually want what is best of this country.

[Stardust]

79. Welcome to DU - it takes real courage to change a mindset. Kudos.

[NorthernSpy]

86. we understand that many people will be voting Dem purely in self-defense...

People who do not share many of our views will temporarily ally with us, because the situation is so dire, and no other option is likely to work. We get that.

At DU, we say many, many unkind things about GOPers and the right in general. Please try not to let that get under your skin too much. Any port in a storm, eh? :hug:

Hey: once we've brought the country back from the brink, we can all go back to squabbling amongst ourselves: lefties versus righties, libertarians versus social democrats, cats versus dogs -- the way nature intended.

[arewenotdemo]

89. OK with me. As long as cats = lefties/social democrats.

[torrentprime]

96. Oh, hail no

Cats are obviously libertarians. Individual choice is all. :)

(ducks)

Thanks for the welcome, all. Here's to a very happy Tuesday.

[buff2]

2. Bu$h is the biggest moron on this planet

And they have the balls to talk about Kerry. Geesus.

[ixion]

34. Media Whore Zahn made sure that after all that, the conversation turned

to Kerry.


Can you believe it? :crazy:

[0007]

53. No! But many buy into it and that is scary

[Supersedeas]

71. Paula wants to talk about anything and everything superficial that avoid IRAQ

[Katzenjammer]

38. He's not a moron, he's a criminal psychopath

[truth2power]

44. Yes, he is a criminal psychopath. That's the long and short of it..

Surely to goodness there are people in positions of influence who know this. What in god's name does a President have to do - how much carnage does he have to perpetrate - before someone steps up to the plate and says it's time for him to be removed?

Of course, here's an alternate take on this: Cheney is the real President. And as long as everyone is focusing on the mentally ill puppet, Cheney can do what he does best. Work behind the scenes to create havoc and fsck up the entire planet. Soulless bastard tht he is!

[Az_lefty]

3. May have lost his mind?

Mr. Sullivan, bush is totally fucking insane!
:hide:

[NoodleyAppendage]

4. Getting rid of Rumsfeld would be a sign of failure...GWB must be better than daddy.

The pathology stems from, what I suspect, is a deepseated hatred for his father and need to "prove daddy wrong about me."

J

[City Lights]

41. You hit the nail on the head.

And junior will stay the failed course until his term comes to an end, leaving the mess he made for the next "adminishtrashion" to clean up.

Go phuc yerself, junior.

[colorado_ufo]

73. And "one up" Dad.

Didn't take out Saddam Hussein? Look how easy it was for me - "Mission Accomplished!" without doubt, this is part of the problem.

What confuses people is that there is more than one problem. They keep trying to find out what is wrong with *, and the reality is that there are likely many deep-seated political & personal beliefs, family issues, religious doctrine and beliefs, mental stress issues (he looks very bad), perhaps some physical problems following his past abuse of alcohol, and God only knows what else. Add to this bad advice and self-serving support from Cheney and others, and it is easy to see why people cannot tell if this man is smart, stupid, conniving, unstable, or whatever.

So, we have been dragged us into wars, divisiveness, and fiscal peril. Any country not as strong as this one would have collapsed under such leadership.

[emmadoggy]

77. Oh man. You nailed it. I totally agree with every word of your post.

The thing is, no matter what the issue is, whether it's one or all of the above, it's obvious the man has serious issues and is unfit for the office of President of the United States (and a lot of other things!).

[arewenotdemo]

90. He's smart enough to fool the rubes with the Saved by Jeezus

routine and buy off the greedy with the promise of tax cuts.

That does not take a great deal of intelligence. Just sayin'.

[Duer 157099]

5. When Sullivan was on Maher's show last week

I was so confused. The last time I had seen him on that show, I could have sworn he was a right-wing freeper type.

But this time, I agreed with everything he said. It was creepy, like I (or he) had slipped into a parallel universe.

[Kagemusha]

11. Simple. Bush's gotten so nuts even Andy Sullivan realizes it

and he doesn't want to be associated with Bush anymore.

Which is amusing because Sullivan's quite a right-wing freeper type.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

21. Move toward the light, Andy...

You're gay. The Republicans hate you.

Move toward the light.

[JoFerret]

36. Conservative, right wing

but not a freeper. They are a unique brand of bushbotic haters and rarely capable of seeing inside the box much less being capable of intellectual adaption,learning and growth. Andrew Sullivan is of a different ilk. I am pleased to see he is beginning to see the light. As he is a catholic I hope he will now do plenty of public penance, and before the election please.

[keopeli]

14. To find out what, look at who signs his paychecks. n/t

[bilgewaterbill]

18. Isn't he selling a book? nt

[wicket]

55. Check out his blog sometime:

He's done a 180:

http://time.blogs.com/daily_dish/

[shanti]

63. ITA!

andrew sullivan has done a 180 degree turnaround. i watched maher last week to and was stunned. guess he finally spit the kool-aid out!

[beachmom]

78. He is a conservative more like a Tory

He is not a right wing freeper type. He was for the war, but knew Bush had botched it early on. Plus the torture happened. So he endorsed Kerry in '04, even though he doesn't like Kerry. And he actually has now defended Kerry on his blog -- that, indeed, the joke was about Bush, not the troops.

[Stardust]

82. I know. I was confused, too. Like, wait a minute, didn't he used to

spew right-wing rhetoric? I actually felt kinda sorry for him because he seemed so honestly distraught over what's happening with the * regime. It's gotta be demoralizing for those guys who used to support * and now have to admit somethings wrong, terribly wrong.

But on another note, I somehow caught Coultergeist on Donny Duece's (don't even know the program but I turned on the teevee and there they were) and she was encouraging him to "come to the dark side." So even they know how evil they are now? Bizarro world. She was about as repugnant as I've ever seen her, insisting she didn't like to talk about herself. Delusional.

[kurth]

6. Caligula wasn't known for his sanity

Our Caligula is just as hopeless.

[Zorra]

7. "This is not an election anymore,

it's an intervention."

That is so true. Great quote.

[Tess49]

10. Yeah, I'm going to have to use it.

[buddysmellgood]

15. Best line of the '06 election. Use it everywhere!

[CONewRevolution]

26. I'm Thinking Bumper Sticker Material /nt

[MGD]

8. Bush has to retain them. To do otherwiase is to admit that things aren't going well in Iraq

and admitting to that, even if only by default, will open a pandora's box for GW. It will secure his legacy as one of, if not the biggest Presidential failures in Americam history. He has no choice but to defend them and their decisions.

[Auntie Bush]

22. He won't fire Rummy because he'd get even by writing a tell-all book

like US Treasure Snowe, Richard Clarke and kow (sp.?)plus others.

Rummy knows ALL the secrets, evil and dishonest deeds that bush* et al committed. No way will bush* ever fire anyone in the know.

[truth2power]

47. *Ding* Ding* - We have a winner!

"Rummy knows ALL the secrets." IMO, this is the primary reason why Bush could NEVER get rid of Rummy. He knows where all the bodies are buried - some of them, undoubtedly, related to 9/11. If Bush got rid of him, he'd be handing himself a trip to the Hague and a hangman's noose. :evilfrown:

[keopeli]

9. Rats jumping ship. Andrew, you had your chance to be objective.

All of us had the same facts about this war all along. A few of us were right from the very beginning about it being a fraud perpetrated on America by a delusional President and his cronies.

There were many moments when you could have seen the light:
- Compromising national security by outing an agency operative in a smear campaign to cover for the lack of WMDs.
- Sending loyal Republicans instead of the best and brightest Americans to help Iraq after the invasion.
- Robbing the treasury by granting uncompetitive contracts to war profiteers who were friends of the Republicans.
- Relying on testimony from criminals, such as Ahmed Chalabi.
- Torturing prisoners of war and ignoring international conventions.
- Slandering Americans as "enemies" and "terrorists" because they disagree with you.
- Using gay people (like yourself) to bait Americans into a frenzied hatred.
- The constant use of lies and deception to counter unpleasant facts and reality.
- Government incompetence on a par never before seen in modern times.
- Abandoning the citizens of Louisana, Mississippi, and Alabama during the worst natural disaster in our nation's history.
- Allowing politics to trump security, honesty and morality at every turn.
- many, many more

But, it's not until today, on the eve of electing Bush's final Congress, that you have had your epiphany.

Don't get me wrong: I'm glad you've finally woken up, Andrew. But, the ethical thing to do would be to bow out of public life with your tail between your legs, acknowledging your part in the un-doing of America while you assess how you could possibly have been so wrong, so vehemently, and for so long.

If you really believe what you are saying today, then you must believe that you have been duped all along by a mad man and his handlers, which makes you party to our current conundrum. Do you accept your own culpability in our current state of affairs? Will you do the right thing and pursue another profession, one for which you might actually be qualified?

[chill_wind]

23. I agree with your observations.

He did come out strongly against all his conservative contemporaries on one thing a long time ago, though, as I recall-- and that was on the absolute immorality of torture and Guantanimo.

That doesn't absolve him of the rest...

[tblue37]

35. Actually, he endorsed Kerry in 2004. (eom)

[paulk]

61. it wasn't just today

Sullivan endorsed Kerry in 2004.

He's been pretty steadily moving in this direction for quite awhile.

[upi402]

12. Richard Perle calls Republican WH "dysfunctional" - that's HUGH!!1

This stuff is a bit more newsworthy than a Senator's fumbled joke.

[Phrogman]

19. No shit thats hugh!!1 thats the biggest surprise in this article.

e0m

[Ouabache]

24. Will Rove ask Perle to APOLOGIZE ?

for that?

[upi402]

25. probably just say Perle hates our freedom

I suspect Perle is distancing the Republican power structure from the Bush Presidency. I'm getting the sense that they're done with him as his popularity is spent. They're plotting ahead to revive Republican power as separate from Bush -scapegoat Bush if not make him a patsy.

[struggle4progress]

28. Since Perle, being batshit crazy, can't admit to himself that Operation Iraqi Liberation

was a bad idea, the fact that the glorious adventure hasn't produced the promised wondrous fruits requires Perle to explain the problems.

He is motivated, of course, only to protect his own future access to the powerful and his own future influence.

Thus Perle opens his eyes a bit and discovers that BushCo really really sucks.

Thus, instead of coming to his senses, Perle gets to be pissed at BushCo for botching the execution of an adventure that Perle will continue to think was a smashing idea.

Perle's one of several SOBs who should simply be dropped off on some street corner in Fallujah ...

[lumpy]

66. Perle was one of 'the brains' behind Bushco.

He's been slinking his way through our government for years conjuring up dark plots. If ever there was an example of Dorian Gray's Portrait, he is it.

[MilesColtrane]

99. If you read Perle's comments, you'll notice that he still believes that

Bush is the shit. It's all the people around him that get labeled as dysfunctional.

Reminds me of the old German bartender I met twenty years ago.
He was a former Hitler youth who believed the the Fuhrer was a "great man" brought down by the incompetence of those around him.

Perle is pure evil.

[WinkyDink]

32. Nah. Too many Americans will "relate"!

[Sabriel]

57. How bad do you have to be for a fellow PNACer to say that?

Too dysfunctional for the PNAC? Yikes!

[ninkasi]

13. Bush is clearly coming unhinged

We at DU have known it for quite some time, but it's so bad now that even right-wingers are commenting on it. I think they're getting alarmed at this monster they created. Maybe they'll understand why we've been so afraid for our country, and democracy. It'll be interesting to see how many others jump on this bandwagon.

[truthisfreedom]

16. can you imagine if we have to have a military coup in this country to

extricate king georgie from the WH? i can see it coming, the way things are going now.

[struggle4progress]

29. Ugh. That would be a real disaster.

[Beam Me Up]

30. And the disaster we have isn't "real" enough for you?

How many more dead people is it going to take for you to get that this is very real.

[struggle4progress]

51. A military coup is very unlikely to produce a positive outcome:

if you dislike what the December 2000 coup has produced, you are unlikely to be happier with the effects of long-term military rule that would probably result from a military intervention.

[Beam Me Up]

58. My point was this is a *real* disaster already

not that a military dictatorship couldn't be worse. Of course it could. But this is precisely what empires have most always succumbed to, is it not? I believe we're already well beyond the margins of "politics as usual," here, however obscured by the media induced patina of "normalcy." We'll see what this next election brings, and what steps, if any, are taken beyond it to correct this situation. The institutions that should uphold and underscore our noblest ideals have given me little hope. What kind of message do we send our oligarchs when we let them get away with murder, treason and crimes of war?

[struggle4progress]

84. Well, I agree with most of that -- but would point out that, while we ..

.. seem to be headed into (and may already have entered) a realm beyond "politics as usual," in fact winning will always require remembering that in some sense one is never completely beyond politics and that political considerations will always be important, no matter how badly the situation deteriorates.

[pinto]

17. "This is not an election anymore, it's an intervention."

What a great, great line...and from an (R) no less. :kick:

[MidwestTransplant]

20. It's not an election, it's an intervention has to be one of the best lines I have

ever heard. Ranks up there with stuck on stupid.

[tex-wyo-dem]

27. Gee, how long have we been saying this on DU?

Welcome to the party, Andrew!

Actually, I've been wavering between delusional/insane and just plane evil...maybe it's a lot of both.

In any case, history shows what happens to would-be two-bit dictators when things start going badly for them, and * is showing the classic signs.

[WinkyDink]

31. Well, Bush WOULD have said "Fabulous job!" but he was told to cool

the Gannon-speak.

[bklyncowgirl]

33. If the Democrats cannot use this, they deserve to lose. nt

[MiniMe]

37. I think he would have a hard time getting a replacement that would be...

so loyal to him. There are a lot of skeletons hidden in the Pentagon right now.

[LiberalEsto]

42. "Night of Camp David" comes to life

Perhaps Fletcher Knebel's 1960s novel about a US president gone mad was prescient.

Unfortunately, I don't see a solution to this situation. In the book the problem was wrapped up by the characters without a big fuss -- the president resigned voluntarily. I can't see King George the 4th leaving his throne unless he is frog-marched.

[Politicub]

43. Our own Kim Jong Il

Oh dear leader, tell us again how fabulously the war is going!

[hedgehog]

45. I was disappointed when I rad the article.

Sullivan's comment is still seen as a metaphor rather than the literal truth.

[Marie26]

48. Andrew Sullivan is great

He's better than the Democrats at attacking Bush, IMO. I loved the "intervention" comment.

[ima_sinnic]

49. hey, you picked him to be your "useful idiot" so FU & the rest of

you "conservatives" who selected this human waste-product to be the front man for your evil plans. And as a "media supporter for the Iraq war," in particular, you are nothing but a propagandist who is now bitching and moaning that your little coup d'etat is running amok because you were too stupid to pick someone with at least a HINT of credibility and sanity.

Anyone who couldn't see through * as a total loser and coward, after his track record, from being AWOL from even the simplest goldbrick ANG duty to dirty-dealing with the bin Ladens to keep his mismanaged, bankrupt oil company afloat (or whatever the hell that was about, sorry) to mocking a woman pleading for her life to the most mediocre, sorry-@$$ governorship in the history of the U.S. is a TOTAL MORON.

Do something USEFUL for your country, Sullivan, and get together with your band of bloody-handed "conservative" scheist-meisters and GET RID OF THIS PUKE YOU INFLICTED ON US.

[goforit]

50. Richard Perle is just upset that we hav'nt used our nuclear arsenol to irradicate

Iraq.

Disfunctional in our eyes is a different disfunctional in Pearle's eyes.

[arewenotdemo]

91. good point

[BigDDem]

52. Just now noticing?

[CoffeeCat]

54. PNAC used Junior. Now, he's stuck with their failed war.

The little monkey was only supposed to be the facade. He was the guy who was
"electable" that would put a friendly face on the neocon/PNAC agenda. Junior
knew he was only a poster boy, and that the big people would be running the show--
as they scripted his every line and told him what country would be invaded first.

Now. Things are different. Junior--who was supposed to be a puppet--has developed
a life of his own. His status, his reputation and his place in history are attached
to this war. The PNACers have given up on it, and realize that it's a farce. However,
Junior won't let go. He's "staying the course" because if he admits failure--it's all
on his shoulders, and he'll go down in history as the worst pResident ever---bar none.

The PNACers can hide in the shadows. They won't be blamed for this dismal failure. Junior
well. He WON'T let that happen. I'm sure Junior is thinking...you guys MADE me leverage
your agenda...you made me say those things...and I'm not backing down now. His out-of-control
ego is running the show now. The PNACers created their own little Frankenstein.

Junior allowed the PNAC/neocon scum to use him as publicity boy--and now they're all scampering
away from the war (amazing comments from PNAC leader Pearle), and Junior is left to cheer lead
alone for a chaotic, perverse failure.

Junior must be going out of his mind.

[donkeyotay]

67. Exactly. bush was just a cardboard cutout, a prop

They got their war, they stole their billions, and we're left to clean up after the elephants. bush has to, as Molly would say, "dance with them that brung him." What choice does he have when the Cheney cabal is the only reason he's there? He wouldn't have a clue what to do without them.

But the intervention line is still hilarious - in a whistling past the graveyard kind of way.

[lumpy]

68. A great analysis of the truth, TwoSparkles

Thanks

[durtee librul]

92. nahhhhh

Condi's there for him

[goclark]

56. Finally! Hope Nov. 7th we get a big vote of assurance

that this gang will be IMPEACHED.

[humbled_opinion]

100. Wishful thinking I am a cynic that says the fix is in..n/t

[smoogatz]

60. Ain't gonna happen. Rummy and Dick are the actual co-presidents--

Bush is just an empty suit. They're more likely to fire him.

[shanti]

62. "lost his mind"....

did he ever have one?? :shrug:

[Uncle Joe]

64. Grasshopper, how can one lose what one does not have?

Now take this pebble from my hand.

[sakabatou]

65. And he realizes this just now?

[coco77]

69. So is his base...

anytime they would say that he is their leader and follow him.

[AbbyR]

70. Lost??

We're assuming here that he ever had one.

[KamaAina]

72. Talk about looking for a needle in a haystack!

"Lost his mind", indeed! :P

[AntiFascist]

80. Didn't Seymour Hersch say the same thing years ago...

when he visited the White House and noticed that the Fundamentalists were running things?

[civildisoBDence]

81. One mental illness DUHbya DEFINITELY suffers from is

delusions of grandeur.

He thinks, and occasionally implies, that he's our Churchill, that in time historians will come to understand the wisdom of his decisions.

I hope he lives long enough to see how wrong he is.

Newsprism

[bobbie]

83. Well better late than never, but Sullivan and his ilk are so crummy

They spend years helping the vermin infest the country. Then, when it's too late, they act all shocked that the vermin are vermin and start whining. Double agents.

[JoFerret]

85. What gets me is

How could any of these otherwise rational people have been fooled for one minute by GWB.
I understand bushbots better than I understand this failure to detect the crap that was clearly on display in 2000.
Postman and Weingarten wrote years ago (in Teaching as a Subversive Activity) about the role of education as developing "crap detectors". Its a noble cause.

[truthpusher]

87. .

[Blue_Tires]

93. hate to say we told you so, BUT.....

[file83]

94. WE FUCKING TOLD YOU SO!!!!!!!

(I don't hate to say it - I LOVE to say it :hi:)

[HotHoneyBlond]

95. The Retard Party is beginning to see too late the damage

to a country the power 1 man can do. Sadly enough, I am in a position to say "I told you so" and get no pleasure in doing so. In future our country falls to a senate forum and we no longer have presidents or kings as the result of this very administration. I will be so happy to live long enough to see those days arrive so badly needed.

I once posted predictions of the future on a website about politics in the hope it would change the future I saw. Sadly enough changing the future is a very difficult thing even for me and being able to say "see I was right all along" gives no pleasure or reward. If I told anyone what the future holds for this nation I would be called insane, but I have heard that before, way back when the village idiot stole the first election years ago. Nostradamus tried to warn us even before me, but people called him insane too. We both agree he is the village idiot.
:cry:

[BlueIris]

98. Please don't insult those with developmental challenges that way.

Is it 1965 on this board again?

[BlueIris]

97. Kick, for fun.

"This is not an election anymore, it's an intervention."

Priceless.