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gorbal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 12:30 PM
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Mexican police surround university in Oaxaca


By REBECA ROMERO
Associated Press


OAXACA, Mexico -- Mexican federal police surrounded a university packed with leftist protesters in conflict-ridden Oaxaca City today, clearing barricades and firing tear gas as the activists showered them with gasoline bombs.

About 200 police wearing body armor and carrying riot shields advanced to the gates of the public university, but didn't actually enter the campus. Under Mexican law, the university rector must give the police permission to enter.

The federal police department said in a statement that it just wanted to "restore order and peace" on the streets and didn't plan to storm the school.

Protesters with faces covered by scarves were seen running out of the campus and lobbing gasoline bombs, stones and firecrackers at the lines of police.

(snip)
more-

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/4305739.html
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 12:36 PM
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1. Livestream from APPO radio in translation:
Edited on Thu Nov-02-06 12:39 PM by sfexpat2000
Sorry, corporate media, you're busted, you disgusting whores.

APPO radiostream live translation in English: http://www.iteration.org/radioappo.txt

Page refreshes every 20 seconds.

:kick:

edit for clarity
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William Bloode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 12:40 PM
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2. You know you have to watch those "leftist protesters"
Edited on Thu Nov-02-06 12:40 PM by William Bloode
They are a dangerous bunch don't ya know?

Do i really need to add the sarcasm smiley?:shrug:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 12:58 PM
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6. Let's send good thoughts to those people who are staring
down gun barrels right now.

:(
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William Bloode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 01:33 PM
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9. Yes, i think i will.
Maybe good vibes are better than the depressing one thinking about it makes me feel. I just hate seeing government and business used too thwart the will of the people.
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gorbal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 12:41 PM
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3. Important new thread in "General Discussion"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2550646&mesg_id=2550646

Lets make SURE the american news media covers this. Perhaps the Mexican governement thinks it can get away with this while we are paying attention to our elections up here, lets not let them!!!! Lets send messages to Oberman and others and make sure they cover this in a non-biased fashion.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 12:42 PM
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4. Fascism is Alive and Well in Mexico
Where are all the Chavez mudslingers? Why no criticism of Mexico's leadership? Exactly...
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gorbal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 12:48 PM
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5. This is a good look at what our own country is turning into
Check out Obermann's latest address on the "military commisions act"-

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15321167/
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 12:58 PM
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7. And also, what BushCo is FACILITATING in Mexico. n/t
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 01:02 PM
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8. so have authorities arrested the identified murderers from last week yet?
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gorbal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 02:27 PM
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11. I think some of them
Edited on Thu Nov-02-06 02:33 PM by gorbal
Indymedia has alot of info on the subject, http://www.indymedia.org/en/index.shtml
At least they realize the importance of this.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 02:54 PM
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16. NO! They are NOT in custody per report on Democracy Now!
This morning.

The mayor is claiming they acted in self defense and they seem to be 'missing'.

:mad:
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gorbal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 05:07 PM
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23. I have to watch todays DN
A friend said they have an update on it
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 01:50 PM
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10. Rally and vigil today in Boston at the Mexican Consulate. 4PM
20 Park Plaza.
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gorbal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 02:34 PM
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12. English Itineration
Here is the frequently updated english translation of APPO radio as they report-

http://www.iteration.org/radioappo.txt
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 02:35 PM
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13. :(
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 02:47 PM
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14. So Here is Where everyone Went
I've been keeping the GD thread kicked singlehandedly
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gorbal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 02:52 PM
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15. I'll go back and help
If you check the update on the iteration it looks like the protestors now have the POLICE surrounded.

http://www.iteration.org/radioappo.txt

But there are also people now calling for them to let the police retreat.
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 03:03 PM
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17. Report from Ongoing Battle
on going battle Message List
Reply | Forward Message #1342 of 1342 < Prev | Next >
PFP has called in reinforcements, two more helicopters. They can feel
wind from the rotors. Calling on other people to take the zocalo, to
split PFP forces. Bring rockets (cohetes) with long fuse, glass
bottles. water with vinegar. Water trucks and cannons are coming back
after refilling, so people surrounding the PFP, should allow a path
for them to retreat, otherwise the water cannons may open fire to save
the PFP.

source: radio universidad
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 03:19 PM
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18. UPDATE : MILITARY BACKING UP PFP WITH HEAVY WEAPONS
From Nancy @ OSAG:

attack

David, a porro is a thug, hired by the PRI in this case to do harm.

This is as bad as we could imagine. The APPO people in the Santo Domingo area are moblizing. The military is backing the PFP with heavy weapons. The gas attacks are everywhere. Children have been injured and according to reports, abducted by helicopters. The first report, probably more accurate, is that arrested people get loaded into helicopters to be taken to the airport, that was the case yesterday. Especially people with videos and cameras get grabbed or shot.

All-out resistance is underway. More helicopters are arriving. The rumor that Fox ordered the PFP to back off appears false. The radio is calling for an ambulance at 1:50, someone badly wounded. A confrontation is taking place between the people and the PFP at 1:45.

In addition to everything else, the PFP is invading the panteon (cemetary) to make sure no body is regrouping there. Bad idea on Day of the Dead.

"This is the moment to reorganize" - the PFP is entering every area. The radio reports that the PFP is planting arms to make it look like the people are armed.
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 03:22 PM
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19. From Rise Up Via OSAG
PFP and Army, Out of Oaxaca
Long live the resistance of the barricades!

In spite of the harsh military operation to put an end to the "Oaxaca Commune," the valiant people of Oaxaca are resisting today by putting up barricades and confronting the occupiers at several points in the city. They have not succeeded in defeating it. That big resistance shows that it is possible to curb the PFP invasion, but also that in all the organizations of the country we have to go help strengthen our class brothers in this unequal battle.

The betrayal that the Rueda Pacheco agreement with the Interior Department (Gobernación) represents, so that the teachers would return to classes, dividing and weakening the movement of the APPO – in spite of the sit-in and the APPO hunger strike in the DF – has generated a lot of dissent among the thousands of militant educational workers who, in a principled manner and fulfilling the APPO agreements, are not returning to classes until the fall of the tyrant URO. No one in the APPO can go on saying that we must respect the decision that the teachers' leaders might take. Strike-breaking cannot be justified with the excuse of "trade union autonomy" of the
organizations. It was obvious that the return to classes would weaken the movement and encourage the repressive policy against the struggle. No negotiation with those who attack the people's struggle!

Let us break through the military siege on Oaxaca

An action on the national level that can mobilize against repression, like the one that forced Zedillo to halt the military offensive against the indigenous peoples and Zapatista peasants in Chiapas in 1994, is urgently needed. In all the movements in the states of the country, we ought to go to help the comrades of this big workers' and people's movement. On Sunday, October 29, several organizations blockaded the Lázaro Cárdenas Eje Central ("central axis") as a means of supporting Oaxaca. The students are already seizing departments and prep schools and CCHs (science and humanities high schools) and making barricades.

Now the trade union, peasant, social, and political organizations must carry out actions in their places of influence, like the seizure of border bridges and custom houses, seizing embassies, strikes, etc. (Mexican consulates overseas have been seized in countries of Europe and Latin America.) Although delayed, the EZLN has announced that it is joining this support and will blockade highways in the zones of Chiapas that it controls. Time is pressing, let us form brigades to work in the whole DF and let us increase international solidarity. Let us make the agreements we voted on in the national and international Solidarity Forum with the APPO in Oaxaca a reality.

On the results of this struggle which has held the state and federal government at bay for 5 months, depends the reorganization of the workers' and mass movement or a big fall. In many years, we had not seen a struggle as deep as this one, disputing the state, la Federación, over territorial control; and with organs of self-defense that infuriated the bourgeoisie. Let us coordinate with the normal school students of Ayotzinapa, Guerrero, who are confronting repression by the PRD government of Zeferino Torreblanca. A Caravan of Caravans that will arrive at Oaxaca City from the north, south, east and west, should be the aim of meetings like the Assembly of the Peoples of Mexico. Let us make international attention focus on Oaxaca. We have to arrive at the Oaxaca Zócalo to help our comrades recover that bastion of struggle that the APPO installed. With forceful actions, let us show the heroic comrades of Oaxaca that they are not alone!

Promote a national strike!

The unions must spare no effort in these decisive moments. Unfortunately, faced with savage repression, they failed to call a strike and mobilization, limiting themselves to declarations against the entry of the PFP. The comrades of Oaxaca must not be left alone! It is urgent that in their assemblies the unions now discuss the national strike to force Ulises Ruiz and the troops out of Oaxaca. The SME has already declared in its meeting with the Interior Department on Monday, October 30 that it agrees with the national strike. Rank and file electrical workers should discuss the date for this national day to make it a reality. But the university students' unions must also do like the students and join this action, promoting the universities' and teachers' strike (STUNAM, SITUAM, CHAPINGO, Bachilleres, CNTE). Let us pass from declarations to deeds. Let us vote on a tentative date now!

For a broad and democratic coordinating body of the actions of struggle

Together with the APPO, let us promote a coordinating body that can promote the necessary tasks to keep up the people's resistance in Oaxaca. Let us join forces for that. The different organizations in the DF and other states where we are, should elect their delegates to this coordinating body and vote in a united and democratic manner on the necessary tasks and actions. Let the APPO feel that it can rely completely on the organizations with which we unconditionally support its struggle. For its part, the APPO can help organize a national body that, independently of the interests of the parties of the Congress of the Union, moves forward toward a class-conscious and militant unity.

Ulises Ruiz and troops, out of Oaxaca!
Stop the arrests in the state! Freedom for political
prisoners!
Down with the agreements with the government that
weaken the movement!
For a Provisional Government of the APPO!
For a Revolutionary Constituent Assembly on the ruins
of the regime!
Long live the Commune of Oaxaca!

Liberation News:
http://lists.riseup.net/www/info/liberation_news
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 03:35 PM
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20. JESUS! Red Cross Is NOT RESPONDING!
Injured People All Over!

Can We Organize a Call Bank to call Red Cross HQ?
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 04:31 PM
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21. AbsoFuckingLOUTLY! The PEOPLE Drove Out The PFP
PFP IN FULL RETREAT!

Remember this DaY DU'ers

We may have to do the same very soon
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gorbal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 05:04 PM
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22. Holy...$%%^
You might start a new thread about this if you have a link to news source.
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 05:22 PM
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24. New thread in GD
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gorbal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 06:06 PM
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25. Okay, are they putting bags on peoples heads now?
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 06:14 PM
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26. Guess so! Where'd you get that one?
Those guys don't look like PFP.
I think they are army or marines I may be wrong
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gorbal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 09:03 PM
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28. Oh that was a link to a pic posted on the interation
it was posted just after the pic you posted on the other thread, so you might have missed it.
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 08:30 PM
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27. .
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gorbal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 09:14 PM
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29. I mean iteration...
...From the Radio APPO translation
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 12:44 PM
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30. kick n/t
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