Breaking: Overnight Development In Haggard Accusations (Haggard admits to 'some indiscretions')

[truthpusher]

http://www.kktv.com/news/headlines/4557411.html

Overnight Development In Haggard Accusations

Colorado Springs
11 News

After a day of whirlwind controversy surrounding new life church and its leader Ted Haggard, who went on administrative leave earlier Thursday, the acting Senior Pastor, Ross Parsley tells KKTV 11 News that Pastor Haggard has admitted to some of the indiscretions.

[upi402]

1. interested to see if he admitted publicly or in writing n/t

[OKthatsIT]

67. Why, this PROVES Gays can be a minister, father and political supporter

What is the big deal? The guy deserves a seat in Congress!

[babylonsister]

2. Old news; he resigned and he's had gay sexual relations, allegedly.

So much for evangelical philosophies.

[saigon68]

36. So much for virtue and chastity

[Straight Shooter]

3. Analysis of his voice on tapes got him nailed.

I figured that guy who accused him would have evidence. Let me say, thank God.

If the fundies had kept their church out of our government, the roof wouldn't be falling in on their heads right now.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

64. haven't see that story, but, boy I agree with you.

even though I'm agnostic.

[Cass]

76. If the fundies had kept their church out of our government, the roof wouldn't be falling in on their

AMEN!!

[deadparrot]

4. What an assclown.

I don't know whether to laugh my ass off or bang my head against a wall.

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[Brundle_Fly]

22. dont forget the meth amphetmine

for making the homosexual sex more intense....


:rofl:

[bluestateguy]

6. Move over John Kerry

There's a new star on Page One....

[SoCalDemGrrl]

7. Is this the same guy who had a conference call with Bush every Monday??

I thought I heard this on Air America today, but can't be certain.

[MadMaddie]

8. I believe you are right....

unbelievable.....

[kestrel91316]

10. Yep. He's the one. And it sounds like he's a serious TWEAKER, too.

Go figure. Bush is very close friends with a METH USER. Do we now have the answer to all our questions about the facial contortions and "coke-jaw" in our Asshole-in-Chief?

Enquiring minds want to know.

[LiberalHeart]

12. Hate to be dumb, but what's a "coke-jaw"?

[Lautremont]

15. One tends to work and clench one's jaw under the influence, I believe.

Not a dumb question.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

52. crystal meth users get that too. And they have bad teeth

because their mouths dry out.

[Hepburn]

61. First thing I thought when I saw Haggard's pic...

...was, "Wow, what a mouth full of capped teeth."

Hmmmmmmm........

[kestrel91316]

102. DING DING DING DING!!!!!!!!!!! You nailed it!

[RamboLiberal]

16. Any bets on who in the MSM will mention his connection to Bush?

I bet the only one will be KO, and I bet it won't even be a topic on Faux.

[Blue Gardener]

32. Daily Show might have it

We can ususally count on Jon Stewart.

[leftchick]

31. yes

"unprecedented access" according to NBC news! I'll bet! ;)

[0007]

72. junior and his class of morality

Here's a wealth of ideas of right and wrong conduct that these cats call religious morality
Screw 'em all..

[Irreverend IX]

111. All aboard the man train!

Hey, that's what it looks like... Haggard certainly looks happy, doesn't he? And I wonder exactly what kind of "Prison Fellowship" that Colson character is running.

[krispos42]

34. Didn't Randi say that? n/t

[Union Thug]

9. Another one bites the dust. I'M LOVING IT! n/t

[file83]

11. Watch this VIDEO of Ted Haggard - He BRIEFED President Bush on a WEEKLY

basis!!! This man has that much access to Bush???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmNjfpoRZpE

Wow.

[LiberalHeart]

14. That video is incredible. Did you notice...

...toward the end that he was sounding like Tom Cruise in that Lauer interview?

I'd love to know what he and Bush discussed.

[file83]

19. They probably swapped gay male prostitute stories (Jeff Gannon)

and talked about Jeeezus.

[JudyM]

81. Probably they just talked about money - milking the masses.

If * is so religious why doesn't he go to church more often...

[krispos42]

35. Of course. How else to know....

what Jesus would do so that BushCo can do the opposite?

See, Jesus would not make drug-induced hot gay love to another man. Jesus would not lie to citizens about war. Jesus would not take from the future generations to give to the current wealthy. Jesus would not make the elderly pay more for critical medicine. Jesus would not torture.

I'm sure there is a bunch more non-Jesus-like behavior that will come out sometime after 11/7...

[Lochloosa]

43. Thanks.

What a dick.

[MissMillie]

45. weekly conference call should be pretty easy to confirm

That's just too precious!

[TankLV]

97. The White House is REFUSING to release it's calling & visiting records...

This was a week or so ago in regards to another scandal...

[JoFerret]

57. BRILLIANT. Watch this video

Loved the Nuremburg rally bit. As well as all that man-to-man head buttibg and clutching. thanks Richard Dawkins - a voice of sanity.
Shoulder to shoulder with Bushie tailypoo.

[file83]

75. What kind of dysfunctional man portrays himself to be the complete opposite

of what he is? To think of all the fools, sheeple, people that would listen to this man and BELIEVE in him and his "insight" to God, yet not see with their own eyes that the man, as displayed in this video, is completely off his rocker!!!

The kind of schizophrenic existence this man led - claiming to be a straight, pure, Christian man when he was really a gay, drug-addicted, faux Christian having "weekly" conferences with the President of the USA pretty much encapsulates the Republican Power Structure in a nutshell (pun intended).

Maybe Dawkins is right (I know he's right)!!!!

[progressivebydesign]

77. Bush is gay. Not that there's anything wrong with it.

Seems he is constantly surrounded by gay men. They had a gay prostitute roaming the White House halls for months... why is it so shameful for Bush to just come out? Sad...

[Bouncy Ball]

94. I've never before today heard him speak

but he's making my gaydar hit DEFCOM 11.

And can I just say, that "contemporary Christian music" they were playing is something I find really creepy?

[colorado_ufo]

108. Stunningly stupid.

I am not sure what would be more frightening: If this man actually believed what he is spouting, or if he were being supremely manipulative.

[alittlelark]

13. OMG! I was assuming a ploy.... really

I was hoping that the Dems gained a spine - that they were using Rovian tactics...... That they were fighting in the same mud pit the R's had been for soooooooo long.



Guess I was wrong.... he is just a hypocritical ASSHOLE.

[melnjones]

79. I assumed the same thing...

Half of me is still hoping that will be the case, but hopes are waning.

[Behind the Aegis]

17. LOL!

I am waiting for a "I have sinnnnnnned!!" cry fest a la Jimmy Swaggart.

[hwmnbn]

18. Swaggart wasn't crying because he had sinned......

those were tears because his ass was caught.

[Behind the Aegis]

24. Exactly! Which is why I am expecting a repeat performance! :)

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

28. Great minds and all that. I said the exact same thing to

Mr. Wonderful last night when Keith ran this story on Countdown.

It's gonna be sooo much fun watching the Pukes try to spin this story and the one from the NYT about putting "nukalar" secrets on the Internet in Arabic...

I can't wait... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[longship]

20. Can't wait for the weepy public apology!!!!

Somebody pul-eeeze record it when it happens.

Preserve the schadenfreude!

[phrenzy]

21. Gaydar Anyone?

Holy crap that guy lights up the "GAYDAR" board like Liberace.

[LizW]

37. Absolutely. n/t

[moose65]

46. My sentiments exactly!

Ever since this story broke I have been looking for video of the man. My gaydar is usually spot-on; in fact I don't think I've ever been wrong! And as soon as he opened his mouth, the bells sounded in my head like dismissal time in high school. So here is yet ANOTHER one! I don't get it. How can any gay person be attracted to a ministry like this? Is it the theatrics of it? The drama? The adoration of the congregation??? The evangelical world is apparently full of gay people. I know that Southern Gospel music is full of closet cases.... the hair, the clothes, the spotlight! LOL

[Hepburn]

63. No kidding...

...even if the story had not broken, hearing and watching him? My immediate impression ~~ the man is gay.

[Julius Civitatus]

96. My gaydar doing sommersaults when I saw this guy speak

this morning on CNN.

[Critters2]

100. I've thought this for a long time

I couldn't believe it when Haggard was elected President of the NAE, because he strikes me as so obviously gay.

[keopeli]

23. Coming up: Haggard checks into rehab for alcoholism and drug abuse. nt

[DoYouEverWonder]

29. I hear Foley

is keeping a spot open for him.

[WCGreen]

25. I wonder if Ga-aw-ad.... will raise a vengeful hand and smite down the

sodomite...

[qanda]

26. It's already one of the top stories on the NBC Early Today show

[lumpy]

27. Being a 'minister' is a very lucerative business

for many of these 'men of God'. Much to be gained, money, power and noteriety; much the same as the poltical 'business'.

[Kber]

58. Don't forget access to drugs and easy women (or men in this case).

[zanne]

69. His "temporary" replacement (v ideo)....

Looks like he could be a Young Republican president. Looks, acts and talks like a young politician.

[acmavm]

30. Evangelicism should really be thought of as 'big business' because

that's all it really is.

Did anyone see the poll on the same page?

Are you upset about Sen. John Kerry's comments about the military, or do you accept his explanation?
Upset about Kerry's comments 63.3 %
Accept Kerry's explanation 36.9 %

If it isn't religious nut cases making news it's people who can't take a (bad) joke.

[TexasLady]

33. those lips remind me of Jamie Foxx, when he played

that ugly woman bit on In Living Color. He played Wanda....well, if I was good at posting a pic, Id say the likeness of those lips is uncanny.:)(apologies to Foxx)

[LizW]

38. LOL!

That's it EXACTLY! I couldn't remember where I had seen those lips before! :rofl:

[Not a moonbat]

44. You ROCK

I was watching that video, TORTURING myself to figure out the separated at birth connection. The speech pattern, teeth, lips, smile -- it's practically an impression. Thank you for sparing me a day of mental anguish.

[TexasLady]

60. hey found a vid...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPMjHr14L58">Wanda with En Vogue



:rofl:

[Ian David]

39. THANK YOU, JESUS! n/t

[Ian David]

40. While you're there, DU this poll re: Kerry's flubbed joke

Are you upset about Sen. John Kerry's comments about the military, or do you accept his explanation?
Upset about Kerry's comments 58.1 %
Accept Kerry's explanation 42.2 %
http://www.kktv.com/news/headlines/4557411.html

[Ian David]

41. I swear, he looks exactly like a character they used to do on "Kids in the Hall"

Mark McKinney used to do an awkward teenage girl with braces.

The little girl looks EXACTLY like Ted Haggard.

[Codeine]

42. Uncanny! nt

[Binka]

47. He Looks Like He Is Going To Vacuum Everything In His Path Up

What a succubus! The video is just creepy anyone notice how he was almost fondling the young guys?

[sendero]

53. Ha ha..

... you NAILED it, he looks EXACTLY like that character!

[Ian David]

56. I can't find a picture, though. Can you? n/t

[tabasco]

65. OMG! Spot on!

I wish we had a pic!

Kids In The Hall is very funny.

But it gets on my nerves after awhile.

[Ignis]

88. OMFG! Good catch. Here's a pic:

And here's another Haggardesque pic of Mark, albeit not the Braces Girl:



Uncanny!

[Ian David]

98. Thanks for finding those pics! n/t

[Ignis]

104. My pleasure.

The "doghumper/braces" sketch is one of the first Kids in the Halls sketches I ever saw (and loved, of course). Who knew that Art imitates Life so closely? :)

[stepnw1f]

90. How about This Guy

[Bouncy Ball]

95. OMG that's IT! Mark McKinney and the girl in the

braces!!!

Holy crap, such a resemblance, it's scary!

[mainegreen]

48. It just doesn't get better than this! Plus he was rude to my man, Dawkins.

Wanker.

[Ian David]

49. I think Matt and Trey were even ruder to Dr. Dawkins last night

They had him fucking Mrs. Garrison on South Park.

Then again, they were sympathetic to Evolution.

[mainegreen]

50. I missed that one.

Kinda glad I did.

[hatrack]

66. Further proof - you just don't mess with Richard Dawkins!!

:evilgrin:

[deutsey]

51. I'm shocked, shocked to hear that he was a BIG Bush supporter

:eyes:

[sendero]

54. Looks like the November surprise..

... isn't going to help the Republicans :)

[alcibiades_mystery]

55. Indiscretions=Paid guy for sex while taking crystal meth

That's a helluva "indiscretion."

And here I thought that an "indiscretion" meant letting slip that Mary was up for a new job in accounting to one of her co-workers in the corporate finance group. No. Apparently, indiscretion means going hogwild on meth while fucking prostitutes. Silly me.

[BigDDem]

73. Thats hilarious, I love it.

but, but wait, he's only 50, so that makes it a "youthful indiscretion"
a la Henry Hyde

[kestrel91316]

103. And he's not just a minor-league meth user either. Check out

the CAPS ON THOSE TEETH!

[soleft]

59. Isn't he prominantly featured in Jesus Camp

or maybe he was just interviewed in a segment I saw about Jesus Camp?

[Hokie]

62. Yes, he was pissed about the way he was portrayed

http://www.jesuscampthemovie.com/haggard_response.html

JESUS CAMP responds to Ted Haggard

As the directors of the film Jesus Camp we feel the need to respond to Pastor Ted Haggard’s comments on our documentary. As a co-directing team, we embark on each new project with two qualities: a healthy amount of curiosity—we’ll be living and breathing the subject for over a year—and with the utmost respect for our subjects. We make films to not just simply entertain, but as a way to learn about the myriad different lifestyles that together form the human experience. We see making non-fiction films as a way for our viewers and ourselves to connect with others.


When we heard that that Pastor Haggard has described us as having an “agenda” we were alarmed. Of course, there are plenty of filmmakers that do make films with a political or personal agenda, but our conscience is clear that we aren’t among them. We filmed with an open-mind and with a beginner’s eye (neither of us are Evangelicals) that allowed the story to emerge in a natural way.

...

[TankLV]

101. Maybe he was just "camping"...

[warrens]

68. "Indescretions..."

"Hey, it just accidentally slipped up his ass, HONEST INJUN!"

There's some cartoon show on Comedy Central called Freak Show, and a main character is Log Cabin Republican Man. He voluntarily works for some right wing nutjob in the election. When someone calls him on it, saying, you work for a guy who wants you dead, he says, "such an exaggeration, he only wants to take away most of my civil rights."

Later in the show, the wingnut has a classic line. "This is New Hampshire, and some of the people here won't vote against their own self-interest. Where do you think you are, Ohio?"

This is only the second time I've seen the show, but it has some AMAZING political commentary.

[Beetwasher]

70. HE WAS ALSO TRYING TO BY METH!!!!

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/11/3/53943/0037

[DemoTex]

71. EtOH? Foley needs a roomy in the rehab spa.

Time to put Haggard on ice like they did Foley.

[Oreegone]

74. This paves the way for books and tell alls, How about

I think him and Jeff Gannon and the rest of the prostitutes servicing Republicans should write a book entitled "Riding the Religious Right", or "Writhing with the Right". or "Right Where? Right Here". Any other suggestions?

[hayu_lol]

78. I would imagine that Haggard is pretty haggard this morning...

This guy is the head(was)of a 14,000 member church and has an estimated 30,000,000 Evangelical followers. Flies around in his own private jet(can someone find out what kind--with those kinds of contributions, it should be at least a Gulfstream IV).

He had immediate access to Bush...normally called him about 3 times a week(this came out on the Bernie Ward & Ray Taliaferro shows on KGO San Francisco last night and early this am. Bernie said that Haggard took Billy Graham's place with the president.

They also ran the tapes of the accuser and Haggard last night on ABC news.

For those who may not know about Baker and Swaggart, Swaggart lost his empire when he refused to pay the regular fee($25.00)to the prostitute for taking her clothes off and posing while Jimmy jerked off. Guess he wanted the regular pastoral discount. Anyway, Swaggart lost his empire because he was too cheap...only wanting to pay $15. The prostitute and Swaggart got into a noisy argument, the neighbors called the cops...and the rest is history.

You 'spose Fred Phelps will go to Colorado Springs to protest this guy?

[diamidue]

83. I don't know about a book

but I can see an appearance on Oprah in his future...

[0007]

85. I'd like to think that Oprah would give the liar the pitch.......

Haggard needs to start a new church called the "Round Church" - The Mission statement would be, "The Devil can't get ya in a corner."

[KansDem]

80. "We have been chosen" "WE have been CHOSEN!"

"We have been chosen for we are special" "THEY are not chosen and are therefore not special" "They ARE NOT special" "THEY ARE NOT SPECIAL FOR THEY HAVE NOT BEEN CHOSEN!!!" ...and on and on.

You can see it developing to an "us versus them" mentality. You can see the beginnings of religious intolerance and war...

This video is just as much a condemnation of religious fanaticism as it is of Rev. Tim Haggard.

[VegasWolf]

82. Hah! Admits to "some" but not "all" allegations. "I'm NOT gay, " claims

Haggard, "I might have done a little sucky-sucky, but that is all, I swear, I am definately not gay, I have a wife and five children!"

[musiclawyer]

84. Serious question; does one hire a male hooker to pitch or catch?

Or both? I mean whatever floats your boat. Just curious. Can anyone in the know clue me in?

[RamboLiberal]

86. Good article here from Colorado Springs Newspaper

<snip>

At Haggard’s gated Briargate home, the lights were on Thursday evening, but the occupants draped blankets across the windows when it grew dark. No one answered repeated calls to the callbox at the gate. Haggard did not return telephone messages from The Gazette.

One woman driving by stopped and said to the media gathered outside, “I hope you all aren’t giving our pastor a hard time. He’s a good man.”

At the church — within view of the Haggard home — church members expressed optimism that the allegations were false, but said that even if they were true, the church would go on.

“We’d be shocked if it were true. But our faith is based on God, not one minister,” said Megan Oaster, 26.

Others were angry. “This upsets me because they besmirched his name for an election,” said new member Seth Otterstad. “I’m going to pray about it.”

http://www.gazette.com/display.php?id=1326093

[Leftwing Nutjob]

87. Hypocrite

Just goes to show you the hypocracy of these loony-toons. If I've said it once I've said it a thousand times, EVERYONE IS GAY, at least a little bit. I've never personally had a gay experience, but when I finally get the chance.....mmmmmmmmm hmmmmmmmm.

:spank:

[yellowcanine]

89. "I am going to pray about it." You do that Seth, that should make it all

go away. It will be better tomorrow. Promise.

[JunkYardAngel]

112. That comment cracked me up too!!

I can just imagine poor Seth wagging his figure saying "I'm pissed and God's soooo gonna hear about this!"

[yellowcanine]

91. What, Haggard is too cheap to buy drapes for his windows? Does he live

in a glass house? That would be ironic, given the hypocrisy factor.

[yellowcanine]

93. My guess is he is using the Newt Gingrich definition of "sex" here.

Accorcing to Newt, blow jobs are not sex. So Haggard could have been giving and receiving BJs and he still could say truthfully, "I did not have gay sex with that man, Mr. Jones."

[MISSDem]

92. Why is this story not on the front pages?

OF THE LIBERAL MEDIA!!!! Oh yeah, I hate to gloat but ha ha

[TankLV]

99. Boy - the women they interviewed are positively BRAIN DEAD!

No doubt about it!

Jeeeeebus, save us from your followers...

[xyboymil]

105. Breaking on Fox News: Now admits to getting a massage &Meth....

Yeah right. Just a massage? Who the hell is he kidding?

Keeps getting better and better...

[Hokie]

106. So what was massaged with what?

...Couldn't help myself from asking that... :evilgrin:

[Oreegone]

107. I don't think it was mentioned

I don't think it was mentioned, what was massaged....just a little rub down, wink, wink, nod, nod, know what I mean? I mean doesn't every anti gay marriage minister seek out a gay prostitute to get them meth and give them a rubdown...I mean is this out of the ordinary........no really at this point, is it?

[Catherine Vincent]

109. The guy laughed and said well if that's what he wants to call it.

LOL!

[PBass]

110. Massage with "Happy Ending"?

Or maybe Haggard smoked, but didn't inhale?