Accused pastor admits to buying meth

[El Supremo]

Pastor Ted Haggard came out of his house Friday morning and admitted to 9NEWS that he bought meth from a gay escort in Denver.

http://www.9news.com/acm_news.aspx?OSGNAME=KUSA&IKOBJECTID=af1bbeba-0abe-421a-01e2-01ca2e4711bd&TEMPLATEID=0c76dce6-ac1f-02d8-0047-c589c01ca7bf

[bemildred]

1. LOL. Spin that. nt

[wakeme2008]

2. and what was he doing with a gay escort

:rofl:

[proud2BlibKansan]

5. Probably the same thing the elephants in your sig line

are doing. :)

[xultar]

6. Oh that. Like he couldn't find a non-hooker type dealer.

[Hepburn]

And...meth is ONLY sold INSIDE a HOTEL ROOM!?!?! n/t

[xultar]

87. Brilliant! Buhwawawa!

[goclark]

139. That was funny, hi xultar! nt

[ozymandius]

63. Perhaps he gaveth and he tooketh away.

[VegasWolf]

88. Methinks he puteth in and pulleth out, repeating as necessary. nt

[lumpy]

24. Getting a massage. Full body massage?

Uh huh

[torrentprime]

43. Wow

Soooo funny.
And my favorite part is the escort himself!


Can't you just see the symbolism? In-the-closet, self-hating, gay clergyman needs some big, strong, gay man to hold him, make him feel loved...

I am not ridiuculing the true angst that many religious people go through when facing their sexuality; I can't imagine how bad it can get. I had the luxury of being raised Catholic in California, and my very devout parents did not fill me with anti-gay messages, so coming to terms with my sexuality had at least one negative compoonent removed, but when people like this who actually agitate for anti-gay laws, etc. get caught, it is just such, true, delicious irony.

[Carni]

62. The escort says the relationship was all business

No emotional attachment and very little talking...I don't think Ted was looking for love or approval-- just sex, which is even more dubious IMO given Ted's claim to fame!

[Why Syzygy]

102. I am 50-ish

and growing up, was just aware, though not intimately, that some just go for the same. So?
I really believe that the perpetrators of hate are themselves land locked into denying their reality.
Otherwise, who cares?

[Occulus]

132. Hence, the campaign to out such people.

A tactic I heartily approve of. There are some absolute fucknuts on this board who, for whatever misguided, counterproductive reason, seem to think we should allow these hypocritical assholes to continue on in the closet because outing them "isn't polite" or some other such nonsense.

And nonsense it is. These people deserve to be dragged kicking and screming out of the closet and into the cold, hard light of day where they belong. Or would some people here have us gay progressives remain ignorant of such people working against them?

Can we say, "ulterior motives"?

[gully]

3. My god!

No pun intended.

[KyndCulture]

4. Well ya know you do enough crank..

I hear after a few days awake you will see Jayzus.

:evilgrin:

[0007]

47. Two old time white cross bennies use to do the same thing

with Moses tossed in for good meassure.

[patrice]

7. No problem. The self-righteous LOVE their sinners.

Those sinners make the "holy" feel sooooooo superior.

[fidgeting wildly]

8. That story gets better and better the further down you read.

Haggard says he bought the meth from a gay escort, 49-year-old Michael Jones, after contacting him for a massage.

:rofl:

Haggard says he never used the meth and instead threw it away.

:rofl: :rofl:

However, Haggard could not remember where he threw the meth away.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Name removed]

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[Beetwasher]

14. "I Disposed of it By Combusting it and Inhaling It"

n/t

[tblue37]

60. He didn't inhale, I guess. (eom)

[DoYouEverWonder]

67. Oh sure

Doesn't everyone buy illegal drugs just so they can throw them away?

:sarcasm:

[Why Syzygy]

136. I have seen

ads by gay 'massage therapists', and they leave no doubt as to the extent of their services.
Isn't 'escort' in this story a misnomer? Where did he 'escort'? The land of Oz, I presume.

[VegasWolf]

9. Guess he couldn't find any straight meth dealers. nt

[bluestateguy]

10. We need congressional hearings to look into this

and he should apologize.

[RamboLiberal]

11. I've been urging caution since Jones failed part of polygraph

But I was thinking from the voice tapes that the meth buy was true.

Here's what I think is key as to gay sex in this admittance by Haggard. Haggard says he bought the meth from a gay escort, 49-year-old Michael Jones, after contacting him for a massage.

Uh huh. Is Jones a legitimate massage therapist? If not, then this is like a heterosexual guy who just happens to stop at one of those roadside massage parlors then when caught says he "only stopped to get a massage - not sex."

[Shakespeare]

15. The man who administered the polygraph said it was administered under too much stress

And was therefore meaningless. That part's really a non-story, in that case.

[lumpy]

39. The 'masseur' claims it was a 3 year relationship.

Haggard has admitted buying meth, which makes him a felon. If he wants to clear his name regarding the sexual relationship, he might be wise to take a polygraph. Somehow I doubt that is going to happen. What does a good pastor's wife do when she discovers her hubby spends his money on meth and male prostitutes?

[coalition_unwilling]

85. She's probably freaking our right about now about her

chances of having contracted some STD. I hope Jones was smart enough to only engage in protected sex.

[VegasWolf]

17. Exactly. Not too many guys that want a "massage" call a gay massage

line, there are plenty of female massage "therapists" !

[bluestateguy]

21. That depends on what the definition of sex is

An irony from the past....

[maseman]

50. I travel the country for business

and get massages all the time. Both from men and women. I've never contacted a spa or massage therapist to make an appointment and happened to morph a buying meth conversation.

Who the fuck does this guy think he is and how dumb does he think people are? Jesus, admit your sins and repent. That might be the worst excuse I've ever heard for screwing up...much worse then the "I never inhaled" uttered by Bill Clinton.

I bought meth from a gay escort after contacting him about a massage but I never got the massage and I threw away the meth but not sure where.

Isn't lying a sin (commandment??)

[spooky3]

92. I agree we should be cautions but polygraphs are so unreliable

that they are not admissable in courtrooms, so i would not put much faith in them, either way.

It should be very easy to determine from other facts (as well as the videotapes) whether Jones is telling the truth. As you say it would be interesting to know about the license and how they originally made arrangements for a "massage". As someone else said, wouldn't most people like Haggard be uncomfortable receiving a same-sex "legitimate" massage from someone who is gay? And, after three years, Jones ought to be able to provide some very clear details about private parts that even a masseur, if legitimate, would not have seen or not observed closely enough to be able to testify about them now. And why not tell your wife if you are being given legitimate massages? She would certainly be supportive of ways of reducing stress, maintaining good health, etc.

[Why Syzygy]

103. Telling the truth?

I haven't read this story, but I can surmise that someone got pissed off. And I assume it wasn't Haggard. Or someone showed up with a boatful of money to offer the 'escort'.

As for his wife? She is not in the dark. Do you think he can perform at home? Oh, yee of little faith.

[spooky3]

134. The escort (Jones) said he was upset when he realized who TH

was, and that TH was working hard to deny the rights to gay people, that it was hypocritical, etc. He said that, after thinking about it a long time, decided on his own, without intervention from other people or other groups, to speak out. I think Jones did say he timed it because he wanted to influence the elections because of his beliefs about how wrong the poltics were. But that doesn't mean as some have said (and they are real, not straw people :-)) that Democrats or anyone else even knew about this in advance, let alone influenced him.

Certainly there must be very good reasons to believe Jones, if the church acted this quickly to get rid of their influential leader.

Although I don't feel I have enough evidence to know what to make of what TH's wife knew, so I don't know whether to have some sympathy for her on that point, I do know that she profited from the exploitation of many people's ignorance. She knew she was not living in a shack and she knew how they got their money. The people I have unqualified sympathy for in this case are their five children, who had no choice in the matter.

[Why Syzygy]

135. The quick move by

the church is quite impressive. Thanks for enlightening me on the details. Contrast this move to the Catholic church who aid and abet harmful behavior. In this case, no innocents, other than the children you mention, were affected. That's the good thing. I have long believed that the ones most vocal about denying gay rights themselves have closeted desires. Otherwise, wtf? Let people love who they want. Moral high horses make me sick. Kudos to the church in this case.

[northernsoul]

13. Out of all the meth dealers in Colorado

he just happened to make a buy from one who was also a callboy? I don't believe it.

[truthisfreedom]

16. heh. how stupid does he think his former followers are? this story is going

to go on and on as he breaks down and admits to all of it, bit by bit. how painful for his seething masses! they're going to have their collective hearts broken over and over as they try to believe him and he shatters their trust over and over.

how does this impact the elections? demoralization of the right-wing base. association with bush. it's just a total bombshell.

[lumpy]

46. Jimmy Swaggart made a limited comeback.

on the hinges of his prostitutional peccadillos. To forgive is divine, doncha' know.

[NOLADEM]

58. REALLY, REALLY PIG FUCKING STUPID, AND HE IS RIGHT

Read their message board. They are all making excuses for him and embracing the 'failed' polygraph test, which is akin to failing a "Ouija Board" game.

Religion weakens the mind, and the weak minded seek religion. (notice: NOT saying spirituality is the same) It is a habit injurious to the mind of the user.

Being religious asks you to suspend all of the faculties a person has to believe an impossible lie. So, if you can swallow that one, you can swallow the one about the pastor who buys crank from a gay bodybuilder, but only goes to the man for legitimate massages and throws the meth away afterward. I have to say, believing that is a MUCH smaller jump than buying the invisible man in the sky controlling everything bullshit.

ANYTHING that requires someone to suspend logic for belief will hold society's evolution back.


Just imagine if science, art and humanities had not had to fight this silly mythology every step of the way.

And just imagine how many libraries, schools, food pantries and after school programs we could build with all of the resources pissed away on churches teaching a narrow 'interpretation' of a book of old myths in order to justify their hatreds and isms.

(We need a stepping down off of the soap box smilie) Submitter stepping down now.

[TroglodyteScholar]

93. AMEN n/t

[UndauntedD]

101. Another Amen

[daleo]

104. Good rant, sums things up nicely. n/t

[bemildred]

105. Hey, if he is fake, they are stupid. They have a lot if self-love the protect here. nt

[Why Syzygy]

113. Nice.

Second that.

[Hepburn]

18. GMAFB!!

And...I suppose the dog ate Haggard's homework??? :smoke:

Sure...riiiiiiiiiiiiight...he met with Jones at a HOTEL ROOM and he ONLY went there to buy meth he was gonna throw away. Sure...that REALLY, REALLY explains TWO voice mails about further purchases.

I don't give a shit if Haggard is gay or even that he uses meth ~~ but to try and make fools out of people and keep lying his ass off with stories this STUPID????

Please, Haggard, not all of us are as gullible as the evangels! Give it up.

[VegasWolf]

22. He forgets that the world at large is not as stupid as his evangelicals. nt

[lumpy]

49. It's a sin to tell a lie.

Wonder if that Bible thumper would swear on a Bible that he didn't use meth and play around. I pity his family.

[JudyM]

72. Lying is in fact called an "abomination"

Proverbs 6:16-19 There are six things which the LORD hates, seven which are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and a man who sows discord among brothers.
http://www.dragonlordsnet.com/abomination.htm

Plus there are the abominations in Leviticus...

[durtee librul]

95. Based on the above message..

George and his admin are toast in God's eyes.....but silly me, I forgot...THEIR God is different than the one who worte the Bible we all know.

[JudyM]

114. Exactly - like it was written for * and his administration. Almost funny. nt

[JudyM]

19. Haggard should take a lie detector test.

Where's the blue dress when we need it?

And I wonder which questions the hooker tested as being deceptive on... jeez, the guy is at the top of the national news, hard to say what's flitting through his mind at any particular moment.

Too bad he took the lie detector before the audio of the answering machine messages was released.

Then one more thing: if Haggard initially contacted him for a massage, I'd like to see the guy's ad that drew him.

[RamboLiberal]

30. Haggard said a friend recommended Jones for the massage

I read about the VM messages before seeing the story about the failed polygraph. BTW, Jones failed on two questions about sex.

Is there any possibility on criminal charges for Haggard for an illegal drug buy?

[JudyM]

33. I just heard an interview in which he said a hotel referred him to the guy

When asked which hotel he said he stays in a lot of hotels and cut off the interview.

I can't imagine he won't be prosecuted for this.

[Carni]

64. I heard that also

He said he stays at a lot of hotels and couldn't recall which one...this guy should have just come clean or said nothing because this excuse is REALLY lame lol

[JudyM]

69. Plus - Jones said that he only advertises on gay web sites - if he's

not marketing to hotels, why would a hotel refer him?

Plus, think about it: you meet a massage therapist once and during that visit agree to buy drugs from him? Doesn't sound like something a guy in the clergy would do... much more likely that he knew the guy better than that.

[Carni]

73. I definitely agree! lol

Haggard should have just said nothing if this is the best excuse he can cobble together!

[Not a moonbat]

78. He's deluded

That church is a cult of personality, and those people will believe whatever he says. He forgets that the real world isn't so naive.

[Carni]

84. I cannot believe that every member of his church

Will buy his bullshit...

[SlavesandBulldozers]

109. ya think?

it's really not a tall order considering what else they believe.

[JudyM]

115. LOL! ya got a point, there. nt

[tanyev]

75. Why does he keep talking to the media?

Doesn't he have an attorney to stop him from shooting himself in the foot? Sure, it's entertaining and all, but it's not very smart.

[El Supremo]

20. More from the Rocky Mt. News>>>>>>>>>>

Embattled minister Ted Haggard this morning admitted receiving a massage from the Denver man who claims to have exchanged sex for money with the Colorado Springs church leader for three years.

Haggard was driving out of his home with his wife Gayle and three of his five children when he gave a brief interview to a gathering of reporters.

(snip)

Haggard said he was referred to Jones for a massage by a hotel in Denver. The minister said he travels to Denver to write books.

Haggard drew a silent stare from his wife when he told the gathered reporters that he received a massage from Jones.

All: http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_5115903,00.html

[BootinUp]

25. The ol received a massage trick

Somehow I think more than just hands were in use.

[DUgosh]

36. He travels to Denver to write books?

While his poor wife is toiling with the five kids. He's gonna get more than a silent stare when he gets home.

[yellowcanine]

40. "Haggard drew a silent stare from his wife when he told the gathered reporters that he received a

massage from Jones." Uh oh, Teddy, the little lady may not be willing to do the Tammy Wynette thing anymore. Better start hiding some of those accounts before she gets lawyered up.

[Beausoir]

54. That part cracked me up.

Break out the xanax.

[mcg]

108. "silent stare" is putting it mildly, here's a pic ....

http://img.viacomlocalnetworks.com/images_sizedimage_307151943/lg

http://cbs4denver.com/topstories/local_story_307134631.html

[zanne]

48. I feel bad for his kids.

Not because their father's gay or bi, but because he's such a hypocritical jackass. How messed up are those kids gonna be?

[coalition_unwilling]

86. I feel bad for his wife. She's got to be freaking out about whether

he's given her an STD as a result of unprotected sex. I hope Jones was smart enough to only engage in protected sex with the hypocrite.

[zanne]

110. I have a feeling his wife knew.

Being a religious, old fashioned wife, she would have stayed with him no matter what. No divorce, remember?

[RamboLiberal]

23. I hope the Fundies who buy this crap these preachers

spew out and tell them to vote Repuke and who worship Bush like a god are sitting home in a deep funk Tuesday.

[lumpy]

52. Problem is, some of those fundies worship their

pastors.

[Not a moonbat]

79. A freeper posted this last night ...

Talk about a cult of personality, this freeper admitted to being a member of New Life Church in another post then compared Haggard to Christ:


To: tjd1454

Maybe, just maybe the Holy Spirit is in control of Pastor Ted. Jesus was silent before the Sanhedrin, He trusted the Father to justify Him. I understand your doubt. I really don't have any, but that doesn't mean I am right. I get the sense you would like to have your fears proved wrong. It is my hope they are

132 posted on 11/02/2006 7:59:52 PM PST by fatez (Euthanasia - GenX's retirement plan for the boomers)

[Pithlet]

94. Oh, man.

That isn't being spiritual, or religious. That is brainwashed.

[Rick Myers]

26. I was with a gay hooker, but HE didn't inhale!!!! LOL

[VegasWolf]

27. bet Haggard inhaled both the meth and the gay hooker! nt

[AngryAmish]

45. Post of the Month!!!!!!!!!

[kestrel91316]

117. Well, not quite. He SWALLOWED the hook(er).

[Hepburn]

29. * * * * *

:rofl: OMG......I spewed Diet Coke on my keyboard!

Good one!!

[Not Me]

28. What's the chance that Jones is going to be charged for

trafficing meth?

[RamboLiberal]

31. How about the chances of Haggard getting charged for buying?

eom

[Kingshakabobo]

118. I'm afraid Jones is in more jeopardy here......

He COULD be in big trouble. He has basically admitted to trafficking. I'm guessing the law will come down harder on the seller. Not to mention that he is a self admitted prostitute..... and gay to boot. I bet some billy-bob prosecutor is smelling blood in the water right about now. I hope he is lawyered up.

[Roy]

32. Form a search party... QUICK......

The republican election season gay bashers are missing!!! The cable channels loves to have these gay bashing guest on as often as possible, but where are they now?

[lumpy]

56. Jones shouldn't feel bad, he has created justice

for gays by exposing the hypocrisy of gay bashers.

[Critters2]

34. Having served in an area where meth addiction is wreaking havoc

this just infuriates me. This jerk paints himself as morally superior, but engages in this behavior.

Furious. That's all. Just furious. :grr:

[goddess40]

35. Being a druggie must be better than being gay

how sick is that!

[VegasWolf]

37. Guess that Haggard's wife was not man enough for him! nt

[yellowcanine]

38. He threw away the meth but can't remember where??? Ok, that could happen.

Apparently Ted has not taken to heart the old adage, "When you are in a hole, stop digging." Does he realize he has just admitted to a criminal act, possession of a controlled substance? I love this part also:

"Haggard said he was pleased that his accuser failed portions of the polygraph test."

Ok, Teddy, how would you do on a polygraph? Sounds as if we are down to quibbling about details, not?

[Cheney Killed Bambi]

41. Boom!

:nuke:

[RamboLiberal]

42. Haggard said a hotel recommended Jones for a massage

What the hell kind of hotel is he staying in?

Haggard said he received a massage from Jones after being referred to him by a Denver hotel.

Haggard, who was leaving his home with his wife and three of his five children, said he bought the meth because he was curious.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15536263/

[Carni]

66. I wondered that also lol

Either Ted's full of crap or the concierge at that hotel had quite a droll sense of humor!

[Hepburn]

44. Anyone know of any "fundie" reactions?

I hate to go over to Freeper-ville to see if they are buying any of this bullshit about buying meth one time only from a gay hookker in a hotel room because he was only there for a massage ~~ I just took a shower and the last place I really wish to go is around that place.

But seriously...can anyone in his/her right mind buy bullshit like this? If any of the Freepers are accepting this bullshit story, it just goes to prove they are totally 100% out of this freaking minds.

I mean, I love Bill Clinton, but as a child of the 60s I KNOW that he had to have inhaled. Matter of fact, I would have liked him even better ~~ if that is possible ~~ if he had just come out and admitted smoking pot. If anyone thinks that Haggard did not use meth and did not engage in sex and went to that hotel room specifically for the sex and the drugs...??? How STUPID can anyone be?!?!?!?! He is "patronizing" Jones for THREE years??? Sure...riiiiiiiight...total bullshit, IMO. He went to a gay male hooker who deals meth for THREE FREAKING YEARS for totally legit reasons consistent with <gag> the teachings of Christ.

Oh, pleeeeeeeeeee-zuh!! :eyes:

[torrentprime]

55. I go there all the time

The masochist in me... I love the anti-gay rants. The more I get the word out there how bad they are, the less GOP apologists can cover for the hatred in their base...

Anyway.
Right now, the posts are running heavy in the "sin brings us all down" mode, with several posters declaring that since they personally have never heard of him, he's not that important to Christians, AND of course, the winning concept is "it's all part of the MSM's plot to help the GOP."
Oh, and of course, several are displaying that trademark Christianist value: compassion. Already, some are using derogatory terms for gay people, saying they should have known based on his clothes choice, and other "turn on the deviant immediately"-type comments.

[Not a moonbat]

82. My favorite fundy went on a rampage ...

To: jamese777

Isn't this faggot one of the so-called "evangelicals" to embrace Global Warming? If so, I hope he rots.

28 posted on 11/02/2006 7:37:43 PM PST by montag813
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To: montag813

Answering my own question...YES, the "Rev" Ted Haggard is one of the fraudulent "evangelicals" who embraced "global warming" and declared in October 2004 that mankind has "a sacred responsibility to steward the Earth and not a license to abuse the creation of which we are a part." Haggard called the environment "a values issue." James Dobson and Chuck Colson said that Haggard had circulated a draft paper calling for the Bush administration to support mandatory limits on carbon dioxide emissions.

I hope this commie faggot fraud rots in hell.

29 posted on 11/02/2006 7:44:13 PM PST by montag813
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To: jamese777

The funny thing is that Haggard was both a fag and a leftie tree hugger...why is the left eating one of their own, their own little mole within the "Christian Right"? Dumb move.

30 posted on 11/02/2006 7:45:48 PM PST by montag813

[SOS]

90. LOL

"Haggard is a firm supporter of President George W. Bush, and is often credited with rallying evangelicals behind Bush during the 2004 election. Jeff Sharlet reports that Haggard "talks to… Bush or his advisers every Monday" and opines that "no pastor in America holds more sway over the political direction of evangelicalism…"

Quotes:

"George W. Bush will be known as the man who stood up to Islamic fundamentalism being used to tyrannize their own people, so that in another hundred years, in the Islamic world, he'll be viewed as a great liberator"

"Evangelical Christians affirm the NAE’s Declaration of Marriage and proclaim marriage to be a sacred institution between one man and one woman. The defense of marriage and the family will continue to be an emphasis of the NAE and its member churches.”

He doesn't sound like a commie!

[Not a moonbat]

80. The freeps

Last night they were claiming this was a total hit job, but today most of them are just as amused by this guy's excuses as we are. The official spin is that he is not running for office and so this is a nonstory. A few are boldly pointing out that Haggard in fact has spoken to the President weekly for the past 6 years, and it should be a big story.

[VegasWolf]

51. Bush to Haggard, "Hey Ted, know where I can get a good massage, know

what I mean?"

[JudyM]

53. Jones has an envelope from Haggard - presumably could be tested

for fingerprints, DNA from saliva, possibly handwriting.

[VegasWolf]

57. eww!! maybe sperm? nt

[caledesi]

74. Does Jones have a c...m towel and is it blue? My bad. n t

[skypilot]

59. kick

*

[jhain]

61. and he found him with

'a referral from the hotel'.
Did he really say that? Now, the hotel can sue him, too.

What?? We are expected to believe that now every concierge keeps a list of gay prostitutes who sell meth in every town?

He threw it away. Next he'll say he was just holding it for a friend. Hmmmmm, who would THAT be???

[Mabus]

71. LOL

Maybe he actually got a referral from JimmyJeff GannonGuckert. :rofl:


I think this beats the "Clinton didn't inhale" story all to hell.

[Vinca]

65. This is going to be like telling Timmy that Lassie died.

"Timmy, Lassie has a tummy ache." Next day, "Timmy, Lassie has to stay at the animal hospital for a test." "Timmy, Lassie's real sick," and, finally, about day 5 or 6, "Timmy, Lassie's gone to the great kennel in the sky." You know Pastor Ted did more than buy meth and throw it away.

[Tight_rope]

68. And the plot gets thicker!

:evilgrin:

[Mabus]

70. Time for KO to induct Haggard into Countdown's "Hall of Shame"

:rofl:

[caledesi]

76. Can't wait to see what Jon Stewart and Stephen Cobert do with this one! nt

[Mabus]

99. Me too!

:evilgrin:

[AllexxisF1]

77. What are the odds he enters Alcohol Rehab?

Make room Mr. Foley I have a gut feeling you will have another bunk mate who is all of a sudden addicted to Alcohol.

[Mabus]

98. I've mentioned it before

I'd like to open a GOP rehab center. It should have several wings. One each for alcohol, drugs, drugs & alcohol and one for sexual addictions. Ideally, there would be a de-programming center in the back to help facilitate their reentry into the real world.

[caledesi]

100. You mean drug rehab. Meth. LOL!

[Felix Mala]

81. Thank God he was just doing meth and not having sex with men!

[coalition_unwilling]

83. Give me librium or give me meth! :)

[mhatrw]

89. NY Times has it now!

Evangelical Leader Says He Bought Drugs

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/03/us/04pastorcnd.html?hp&ex=1162616400&en=808cf25dcc9ce1a9&ei=5094&partner=homepage

[Recursion]

91. Nobody *buys* meth (or any drug) their first time

Someone gives you some. If you're putting down money for it, it's because you know it makes you feel good (or makes you stop feeling as bad as you do).

"Hmmm... I wonder if meth is as fun as my parishoners say. I think I'll ask the gay guy who massages me to sell me some. On second thought, I don't want any. But, a deal is a deal and all sales are final."

Just doesn't pass the whiff test.

[durtee librul]

97. Ya know, I had a really crappy day

today and then I came home and read this thread and now have tears in my eyes...you guys are too much....steeple being massaged was about the best...no, maybe it was the 'silent stare' from his old lady...

Personally, I think those weekly calls to Bush might have *gasp* PHONE SEX........And of course they were both probably high on meth while they were a a a a 'talking.'

[spooky3]

96. Sic Judge Judy on him!

[ThoughtCriminal]

106. I shot the Sheriff!... But I did not shoot the Deputy!

I can't help but think of that song when I heard Haggard's latest spin (Meth but no sex).

[sarcasmo]

107. Kick and Nom if it only could have been Dobson with him.

Bought the Meth and threw it away, that's freaking hilarious.

[katty]

111. he'll do his repentance speech & ask forgiveness-life goes on

the GOP and Evangels get away with anything and everything.

[nealmhughes]

112. My personal ad for Foley and Haggart:

Foley: GWM, Str8 acting, professional, daddy, 55, tan, tight, into hot "naughty student" play, DC and Palm Beach/Miami, love 16-18, WM ONLY!

Haggart: BiWM, Str8acting, married, into hard core P and P, like it rough, hotel sex, willing to pay to play, in Col. Springs/Denver/DC..

[Algorem]

116. bush is a methadist too i think

[kestrel91316]

119. Can we call him "Teddy the Tweaker" now? Can we?? Huh? Huh?

[RamboLiberal]

120. Jones: Haggard snorted meth during sexual encounters

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_4597552

Embattled minister Ted Haggard admitted buying methamphetamine from a male prostitute today but denied ever using the drug or having sex with him.

The prostitute, Michael Jones, a 49-year-old gay bodybuilder who claims he had a three-year, sex-for-pay arrangement with Haggard, responded that Haggard should come clean, admit the affair and move on with his life.

When asked his reaction to Haggard's claim he threw the meth away, Jones scoffed, "It's just like Clinton, who said he didn't inhale."

Jones said Haggard didn't use meth the first year of their meetings, but started taking it about two years ago. He said Haggard snorted the meth every time they had sex.

"This is ridiculous," Jones said. "Yesterday, he didn't even know me. Today, he admits buying meth but never using it. Who's more credible?

[Zorra]

121. I'll believe a gay whore rather than republican hypocrite every time

Heck, I'd trust crackheads more than I do republicans.

[acmavm]

122. Haggard? That happily married religious republican guy? He might

have lied?

I'm shocked. I'm shocked that anyone would have ever considered that he wasn't lying.

[Erika]

123. He was the leader of the National Assoc. of Evangelicals

And the pastor of a 14,000 member Mega Church in Colorado Springs. He took in the bucks big time. The halls of the church were lined by 8 foot by 10 foot pics of him.

Like Nixon, the mountains so high...the valleys so low.

[Straight Shooter]

126. You have GOT to be kidding me!

8x10 foot pics of a pastor in his church? That's blasphemy.

I'm not religious, but I recognize "Thou shalt have no gods before me" when I see it. Jeebers.

[LostInAnomie]

124. One can only imagine the beating that poor man's anus took.

Thirty days a month Pastor Ted was repressing his drives. Lusting, craving, wanting to get back to the hotel room where he is free, but at the same time hating himself every moment. Then that one day of the month comes around, and all the pressure gets released in a frenzied, drugged out, man-on-man lust explosion.

That poor prostitute probably didn't know what him him.

[truthisfreedom]

125. maybe Jones should identify markings on Haggard's penis...

that seems like an interesting idea, huh?

somebody ask him about any markings on Haggard below the waist at all!

[colorado_ufo]

127. He'd have to have eyes in back of his head.

[BronxBoy]

130. I'll have to defer to some of our gay members....

But I think that Haggard was a catcher, not a pitcher!

[DBoon]

128. I think widespread meth abuse causes republicanism

Paranoia, hyper-agression, etc. etc.

[grytpype]

129. This is great because it reminds everyone of Foley.

This is Foley II.

[meuniermr]

131. Why arn't his teeth/nose farked up then??

[Dragonbreathp9d]

133. As soon as I saw him I thought...

Love... Fear... The Life Line.

[Why Syzygy]

137. If he wasn't so vocal and disgusting

trying to deny other's rights and freedoms, I would not CARE!

This >
COLORADO SPRINGS, Colorado (CNN) -- Evangelical pastor Ted Haggard confessed on Sunday to a "lifelong" sexual problem, and said he was "a deceiver and a liar," in a letter read to his New Life Church.

"There is part of my life that is so repulsive and dark that I have been warring against it all my life," he said in the letter.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/11/05/haggard.allegations/

His real sin is not the sexual lifestyle. He nailed it, 'deceiver and a liar' and out to squash anyone who lives in the open and doesn't skulk around. That is the real offense.

[mc jazz]

138. He was cvsv. nt