Military Times Media Group - Calls for Rumsfeld's Resignation

[DoYouEverWonder]

Nov 3, 2006

Breaking on Keith Olberman.

[thepurpose]

1. Army Times, Air Force Times, Navy Times & Marine Corps Times in case

anyone does not know the entire group.

[kestrel91316]

2. They are going to feel the wrath of Bush for this act of betrayal.

He's going to go after them with a vengeance. Mark my words.

[sarge43]

4. What is he going to do?

These papers aren't gov't run or funded. The most he could do is banned them from military installations and/or forbid any official news feed from the military to them. The first won't do any good because most military subscribe directly. The other will make the feed 'unofficial' and will ensure the criticism gets even uglier.

[kestrel91316]

10. ".....forbid any official news feed from the military to them...."

This alone will put them out of business. Watch him do it. Executive order.

[sarge43]

12. As said, they just get it under the table

There's cunning as an outhouse rat, then there's military beating the system. The rat wouldn't stand a chance. Plus, there would be one hellva stink from the lifers; they like and value the Times and I just don't mean the worker bees.

[ECH1969]

3. The Freepers already hate the Military Times

The Military Times banned them from posting their articles.

[Mr_Spock]

7. Freepers can't deal with any thruth

mindless Freepers.

[ls317]

5. They are part of the Gannett Publishing Group

[Phrogman]

6. Military Times group of papers are fairly unbaised.

They do make an effort to avoid propaganda.

[sarge43]

9. And the 'lifers', both officers and noncoms, value them

because they are supportive of the troops and tend to have a good bead on the overall situation.

[Monkeyman]

8. Need link this is good news

[DoYouEverWonder]

11. The Military Times Media Group

is supposed to publish this on Monday.

[goforit]

13. OMG!

[jefferson_dem]

14. Advance Copy of Military Times Editorial Calling for Rumsfeld Resignation

Advance Copy of Military Times Editorial Calling for Rumsfeld Resignation
Submitted by Julie on Fri, 2006-11-03 21:38.

Advanced copies of the Military Times editorial to be published on Monday have been sent out to several media sources. Here is a snippet:

Rumsfeld has lost credibility with the uniformed leadership, with the troops, with Congress and with the public at large. His strategy has failed, and his ability to lead is compromised. And although the blame for our failures in Iraq rests with the secretary, it will be the troops who bear its brunt.

This is not about the midterm elections. Regardless of which party wins Nov. 7, the time has come, Mr. President, to face the hard bruising truth:

Donald Rumsfeld must go.

http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/649

[Actionmac]

15. rummy out sunday

...and bush praised for listening to the generals

[grytpype]

18. Not how Bush works.

The more people tell him he's wrong, the harder he digs in.

The pressure on Bush is enormous, but I honest think he is too stupid to feel it. I'll be surprised if Rummy goes.

Maybe if Rummy just runs to a podium and says "I'm resigning." Don't let Bush say no.

[leftchick]

33. are you kidding me?

bush listen to anyone? :rofl:

[tularetom]

16. Ain't gonna happen

What's he going to do fire himself? Cheney will fire him? Bush isn't in charge of anything except prancing around the country talkin tough and making himself look stupid while Rummy and Cheney do exactly what they want. They don't give a flying fuck who calls for their resignations, they are in charge and can't be touched as long as bush is the nominal president.

[durtee librul]

19. Oh I don't know,

I agree that he resigns on Sunday (or better yet, MOnday) and Bushco gets a boost from the resignation and all the good little repukes run out to vote again.

[oblivious]

17. Every time bush calls him in to fire him, Donald shouts '911' and reminds bush he knows everything.

And bush gets all sweaty and stuttering and all and tells him, just joking, ha ha, you're doin a heck of a job.

[FightingIrish]

20. Bush isn't being loyal or steadfast.

He simply lacks the balls to take charge of his own administration. If he fires his grown-ups he's on his own.

[Captain Hilts]

26. Don't need to own 'balls' to have fortitude. nt

[DoYouEverWonder]

21. Here's the text for the advance copy

Time for Rumsfeld to go

<snip>

It is one thing for the majority of Americans to think Rumsfeld has failed. But when the nation's current military leaders start to break publicly with their defense secretary, then it is clear that he is losing control of the institution he ostensibly leads.

These officers have been loyal public promoters of a war policy many privately feared would fail. They have kept their counsel private, adhering to more than two centuries of American tradition of subordination of the military to civilian authority.

And although that tradition, and the officers' deep sense of honor, prevent them from saying this publicly, more and more of them believe it.

Rumsfeld has lost credibility with the uniformed leadership, with the troops, with Congress and with the public at large. His strategy has failed, and his ability to lead is compromised. And although the blame for our failures in Iraq rests with the secretary, it will be the troops who bear its brunt.

This is not about the midterm elections. Regardless of which party wins Nov. 7, the time has come, Mr. President, to face the hard bruising truth:

Donald Rumsfeld must go.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/foreigndesk/detail?blogid=16&entry_id=10582

[torrentprime]

22. What do you say?

How do you answer this? It is a tragedy that things had to get so bad that the in-service generals had to break centuries of tradition and go public, to get someone to listen to how bad things are. How sad for our country.

And we should also respect, again, the courage of the generals who do speak up now, as they feel they have no recourse but to air their grievances publicly in order to protect our military.

[DoYouEverWonder]

23. You know things most be horrible

for active duty generals to speak out about a sitting president.

[Imagevision]

24. This reassures just how rediculous this president is, he would appear wrong as Rumsfeld

by booting him out, so he stays his course to satisfy the neocons.

[Generic Brad]

25. Even the neocons turned on him tonight

Check out the latest Vanity Fair. You'll see what I'm talking about.

[usregimechange]

27. Now on MSNBC on-line

Just days after President Bush publicly affirmed Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's job security through the end of his term, a family of publications catering to the military will publish an editorial calling for the defense secretary's removal...

"This is not about the midterm elections," continued the editorial, which will appear in the Army Times, Air Force Times, Navy Times, and Marine Corps Times on Monday. "Regardless of which party wins Nov. 7, the time has come, Mr. President, to face the hard bruising truth: Donald Rumsfeld must go."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15552211/

[pamela]

28. K&R

This is hugh.

[rodeodance]

29. gee, do you think the WH will get the hint?

[burrowowl]

30. They should also be calling for

the IMPEACHMENT of Bu$hCO for suborning the Geneva Conventions and sending weary troops for a 3rd tour!

[Buddyblazon]

31. Wow!

I see your guy with a foot and his mouth (Kerry)....and I raise you one dude about to become the cherry on top of the worlds biggest shit sundae.

[MiniMe]

32. On CNN online now too n/t

[NVMojo]

34. Kick and Rank!!!