Board finds Haggard guilty 'of sexually immoral conduct'; pastor resigns

[Roon]

Board finds Haggard guilty 'of sexually immoral conduct'; pastor resigns
Breaking on http://www.msnbc.msn.com/

[bullimiami]

1. you know he could have started a liberal, gay friendly church

and not had to lie. i guess the meth is still a problem.

[donheld]

13. We already have a liberal, gay friendly church

Do we really need another?

[Raster]

14. Absolutely. We need ALL of them to liberal and gay friendly.

[Vanje]

18. Not much money in it

Theres not much money in the liberal gay friendly church biz.

I think Haggard was into the sort of tax-free fist-fulls of cash that the modern fundie mega-church provides.

[saigon68]

29. Its the "Fleecing the Sheep" Church

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[BootinUp]

2. That was quick.

"thump.. thump" what was that? I dunno know.


vroooooommmmmmmm...!

[ClintonTyree]

3. Probably just for the meth buying.........

I'm SURE none of the other charges are true. :eyes:

Another Republican hypocrite bites the dust. But there's still so many to go..............It's a good thing I'm a patient man. ;)

[mhatrw]

4. No.

http://cbs5.com/topstories/topstories_story_308171611.html

The Rev. Ted Haggard agreed to resign Saturday from his New Life Church after its independent investigative board recommended removal, saying he was guilty "of sexually immoral conduct."

"We, the Overseer Board of New Life Church, have concluded our deliberations concerning the moral failings of Pastor Ted Haggard," a statement from the church said. "Our investigation and Pastor Haggard's public statements have proven without a doubt that he has committed sexually immoral conduct."

[flowomo]

5. Nope, it's over sex, not drugs....

and maybe even rock 'n roll:

"We, the Overseer Board of New Life Church, have concluded our deliberations concerning the moral failings of Pastor Ted Haggard," a statement from the church said. "Our investigation and Pastor Haggard's public statements have proven without a doubt that he has committed sexually immoral conduct."

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/11/04/D8L6HB2G0.html

[Democrats_win]

8. No. Article says, for "sexually immoral conduct."

[MADem]

10. Not unless he was humping the meth!!!! NT

[Fridays Child]

15. Love it! The next time fundies ring my doorbell, I'm gonna tell 'em to...

GO HUMP METH!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[MADem]

17. But it had better NOT be "same sex meth" doncha know!!!!!

[Fridays Child]

20. Juth thay no to thame thekth meth.

;)

[Human Torch]

6. Here's the story:

Haggard resigns from Colorado church
Board finds evangelical leader guilty of ‘sexually immoral conduct’

BREAKING NEWS
NBC News and news services
Updated: 6 minutes ago

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. - The Rev. Ted Haggard agreed to resign Saturday from his New Life Church after its independent investigative board recommended removal, saying he was guilty “of sexually immoral conduct.”

“We, the Overseer Board of New Life Church, have concluded our deliberations concerning the moral failings of Pastor Ted Haggard,” a statement from the church said. “Our investigation and Pastor Haggard’s public statements have proven without a doubt that he has committed sexually immoral conduct.”

Haggard admitted Friday he bought methamphetamine and received a massage from a gay prostitute who claims he was paid for drug-fueled trysts by the former head of the National Association of Evangelicals. Haggard said he never used the drugs he bought or had sex with his accuser.

Mike Jones, the 49-year-old Denver man who raised the allegations this week, quickly refuted Haggard’s denial.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15536263/

[MADem]

7. Huh???? But, but....but.....!!!! He SWORE up an' down that he ONLY bought

METH!!!!! A drug he had NEVER used before (amazing, I've never used it either, and would have no idea how to should I come across any....indeed, I have to admit I'm such a fuddy duddy I don't even know what it looks like!!). And then, why...he THREW IT AWAY!!!!

I gotta say, the look on his wife's face as he spit those lies out was so telling--it looked as though she was thinking "I don't believe you, you asshole, and these folks don't either..."

Here's a bit more meat on the story:

http://kutv.com/topstories/topstories_story_308171611.html

"We, the Overseer Board of New Life Church, have concluded our deliberations concerning the moral failings of Pastor Ted Haggard," a statement from the church said. "Our investigation and Pastor Haggard's public statements have proven without a doubt that he has committed sexually immoral conduct."... Haggard said Friday he bought methamphetamine and received a massage from the male prostitute. But the influential Christian evangelist insisted he threw the drugs away and never had sex with the man.

Haggard, who as president of the National Association of Evangelicals wielded influence on Capitol Hill and condemned both gay marriage and homosexuality, resigned on Thursday after a Denver man named Mike Jones claimed that he had many drug-fueled trysts with Haggard.

On Friday, Haggard said that he received a massage from Jones after being referred to him by a Denver hotel, and that he bought meth for himself from the man.....

And the White House Junior Snowjob wastes NO TIME in 'distancing' themselves from the guy: White House Deputy Press Secretary Tony Fratto said Friday that Haggard had visited the White House once or twice and participated in some of the conference calls. He declined to comment further, calling the matter a personal issue for Haggard.

[OKNancy]

9. direct link to story:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15536263/

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. - The Rev. Ted Haggard agreed to resign Saturday from his New Life Church after its independent investigative board recommended removal, saying he was guilty “of sexually immoral conduct.”

“We, the Overseer Board of New Life Church, have concluded our deliberations concerning the moral failings of Pastor Ted Haggard,” a statement from the church said. “Our investigation and Pastor Haggard’s public statements have proven without a doubt that he has committed sexually immoral conduct.”

[mhatrw]

11. Evangelical Rev. Quits Amid Drugs, Gay Sex Scandal (Sex Confirmed!)

http://cbs5.com/topstories/topstories_story_308171611.html

The Rev. Ted Haggard agreed to resign Saturday from his New Life Church after its independent investigative board recommended removal, saying he was guilty "of sexually immoral conduct."

"We, the Overseer Board of New Life Church, have concluded our deliberations concerning the moral failings of Pastor Ted Haggard," a statement from the church said. "Our investigation and Pastor Haggard's public statements have proven without a doubt that he has committed sexually immoral conduct."

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[MADem]

16. Here's the NEW LIFE CHURCH press release

http://www.newlifechurch.org/pressrelease110606.pdf

We, the Overseer Board of New Life Church, have concluded our deliberations
concerning the moral failings of Pastor Ted Haggard. Our investigation and
Pastor Haggard's public statements have proven without a doubt that he has
committed sexually immoral conduct.
The language of our church bylaws state that as Overseers we must decide in
cases where the Senior Pastor has "demonstrated immoral conduct" whether we
must "remove the pastor from his position or to discipline him in any way they
deem necessary."
In consultation with leading evangelicals and experts familiar with the type of
behavior Pastor Haggard has demonstrated, we have decided that the most
positive and productive direction for our church is his dismissal and removal.
In addition, the Overseers will continue to explore the depth of Pastor
Haggard's offense so that a plan of healing and restoration can begin.
Pastor Haggard and his wife have been informed of this decision. They have
agreed as well that he should be dismissed and that a new pastor for New Life
Church should be selected according to the rules of replacement in the bylaws.
That process will begin immediately in hopes that a new pastor can be confirmed
by the end of the year 2006. In the interim, Ross Parsley will function as the
leader of the church with full support of the Overseers.
A letter of explanation and apology by Pastor Haggard as well as a word of
encouragement from Gayle Haggard will be read in the 9:00 and 11:00 service of
New Life Church.

I guess Gayle is his NIECE...so much for having the same name as the big cheese--what once opened doors will now have them slammed in her face! From the quotes of the attendees of that church, they don't seem to be too tolerant of gay relationships, to put it mildly.

Members of Haggard's megachurch were stunned.

"It's political, right before the elections," said Brian Boals, a New Life member for 17 years.

Church member E.J. Cox, 25, called the claims "ridiculous."

"People are always saying stuff about Pastor Ted," she said. "You just sort of blow it off. He's just like anyone else in the public eye."

"People will always fail us, but our faith in God helps us get through this period because he never will," a church employee told 7News on Friday after learning of Haggard's admission. http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/10231729/detail.html


But look at this asshole--he even wrote a DIET BOOK: http://www.jerusalemdiet.com/

He's telling everyone who they can fuck, while not adhering to THAT rule, and how fat they can be (and making money off it)....and, sneaky little lying asswipe that he is, he even urges people to send ANONYMOUS emails about his little for profit book to their "fat friends" (I shit you not): http://www.jerusalemdiet.com/fatfriends.jsp

[Binka]

38. His Next Book " The Dick & Meth Diet" n/t

[0007]

43. LOL!! Your killing me man.......

[MADem]

45. Heheheheh... Binka, you're a scream!! NT

[Ian David]

40. Of COURSE it's about politics! Pastor Ted was a POLITICIAN...

who used his church to gain POLITICAL clout and to raise money for a POLITICAL agenda.

I don't care if Pentecostals preach that being gay makes you too immoral to be a Pentecostal, any more than I care that The Amish refuse to have telephones in their homes.

But when they step outside their church, and try to influence the secular political system to force their views upon those of us who have never agreed to be Pentecostal... then the gloves are off. Politics is a full-contact sport.

[rodeodance]

47. the church hates gays. Bad day for gays that is for sure.

[MADem]

48. Gays in that church, anyway. But if they are just figuring that out, they aren't the

brightest gays in the congregation, are they?

They spend an awful lot of time in that outfit worrying about who might be permitted to marry and what gays do behind closed doors!! I can't imagine anyone other than a closeted miserable, in denial gay being part of that group.

[ruggerson]

19. MSNBC title is in error.

The man was FIRED. Says so quite explicitly in the press release from the lunatic OverChurch. He was "dismissed."

http://www.newlifechurch.org/pressrelease110606.pdf

[mcg]

21. Haggard may have come on inappropriately to many young staffers

This is unconfirmed ...

From
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lyn-lear/rev-ted-haggard-comes-ou_b_33208.html

"Today, Ted Haggard, the newly resigned leader of the 14,000 member New Life Church in Colorado Springs, admitted to asking male prostitute Ralph (sic) Jones to score him some meth for curiosity's sake and asking for a "massage". It is just a matter of time before the rest of the sordid truth unfolds.
Rumor has it that the gay community in Colorado Springs has known about Rev. Ted for years and that he not only has had sex with gay prostitutes, but has also had a ten-year long affair with one of his male aides, and has come on inappropriately to many young staffers. Déjà vu, anyone?

Yesterday Rev. Haggard was asked by CNN if he had ever met a gay man or woman and he said he had no knowledge of ever meeting a homosexual, that he was not gay, and had a perfectly happy marriage. Watch this video and tell me he isn't lying.

What people may not know is that Ted Haggard is George Bush's spiritual advisor. We do know that Haggard has weekly conference calls with that great exploiter of homophobia, Karl Rove. But Colorado Springs locals say he flies to Washington several Mondays a month to pray with the president. First there was Foley, then Sherwood, now Haggard. Of course, before that there was Abramoff, Reed, and Cunningham. Oh, and don't forget Swaggart and Baker and so on. The list is endless. ..."

[ldf]

22. ok. let's examine this.

just what is the definition of sex?

he got a "massage" from a "gay male prostitute".

hmmmm.

massaaaagggee..... were his genitals touched at any point during this maasssagggggee by the gay male prostitute?

if not, why did he have the maaasssssaaagggge to start with? and why was it a GAY MALE prostitute.

if someone is massaging and stroking your genitals, while you have an erection, are you having sex?

orgasm is irrelevant. meth may prolong the, uh, build up to..??? :-)

methinks i can very easily read between the legs, er...lines here.

[PaDem]

23. honestly a massage would be enough to do it.........

I don't believe that was all that happened, but if it was, it would be enough to produce this outcome.

[saigon68]

36. LOL Outrageous

[Fridays Child]

24. I found the statement, "I'm steady with my wife" to be somewhat odd.

I'm not sure why but it just struck me as a strange thing to say.

[VegasWolf]

25. Maybe it means that sometimes he can get it up with her. nt

[skooooo]

28. me too

what does it *mean?*

[Fridays Child]

30. There's almost the implication that it wasn't always so.

Or is he so immature as to be suggesting that his relationship with his wife is the equivalent of going steady?

Or is he saying that he would be UNsteady WITHOUT his wife?

I don't know. It just seems to be a "facade" kind of a statement.

[lumpy]

33. Probably does his husbandly duties in the bed,

steadily. hehehe

[skooooo]

44. eewwwwwww

[md11capt]

26. What about James Dobson, Haggard's good(?) drinking buddy?

In a stretch could James Dobson been cornholed by Haggard too?
He thought Haggard was one of them or is he?


What will the talking heads be saying tomorrow?

[saigon68]

37. James Dobson is "quite a piece of work"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Dobson


Dobson believes homosexuality can be cured in adults and prevented in children, and is an opponent of the gay rights movement. Focus on the Family sponsors a monthly conference called “Love Won Out,” where many of the speakers are self-professed ex-gays. Held around the U.S., the conference encourages its attendees to believe that "homosexuality is preventable and treatable."<2> According to critics, Focus on the Family asserts that there is a "homosexual agenda" and associates gays with pedophilia.<2>

In his book, Bringing Up Boys, Dobson claims "Homosexuals deeply resent being told that they selected this same-sex inclination in pursuit of sexual excitement or some other motive. It is unfair, and I don't blame them for being irritated by that assumption. Who among us would knowingly choose a path that would result in alienation from family, rejection by friends, disdain from the heterosexual world, exposure to sexually transmitted diseases such as AIDS and tuberculosis, and even a shorter lifespan? No, homosexuality is not 'chosen' except in rare circumstances. Instead, bewildered children and adolescents find themselves dealing with something they don't even understand."<5>

[daleo]

39. He beats up puppies too.

Quite a piece of work.

[lumpy]

27. Guess Pastor Hot Pants caught with hands

in the cookie jar. Naughty naughty

[PBass]

31. You try to relax during a real massage...

So that's probably the last place you'd want to do a bunch of Meth.

Anybody with a lick of common sense can figure out what's really been going on, more or less.

I wonder if this guy Haggard is going to be put on suicide watch. His entire life is crumbling in a most spectacular way. Poor son of a bitch, he probably deserves it.

[IndyBob]

32. I guess being homosexual

is much worse than scoring meth to the fundies. Seems odd, but these are odd folks.

At least for now, gay sex is not illegal, but purchasing meth is. But he admits to buying the drugs, and denies gay sex. I wonder what the penalty for purchasing and possessing meth is in Colorado. Will Haggard be charged?

[Zorra]

34. Rule #2: Let 'em deny it before ya bust out the videotape. n/t

Rule #1: Every republican is a lying, corrupt hypocrite.

[Neshanic]

35. New Board release for Haggard's crimes....

Throw out your hands!!
Stick out your tush!!
Hands on your hips
Give them a push!!
You'll be surprised
You're doing the French Mistake!!
VOILA!!

[annabanana]

41. He needs to be on suicide watch...

This guy will implode. He keeps denying publicly what he clearly enjoyed behind closed doors. Maybe he got high on the meth to try to "confuse" himself about what he did later in the visit...

He needs to confess publicly to stay alive, I think. This kind of person can't live with this glaring, public dissonance.

[The Wielding Truth]

42. If he commits suicide, it will make it more difficult to connect the dots.

He regularly purchases meth. He meets directly with GWB once a week. George said to have been into drugs. Hmmmm.....wander if there is a connection....

[Divine Discontent]

49. ah ah ah!! watch what you say!

they may be listening. LOL..

we all know what this SOUNDS like don't we?

These FALSE teachers are an affront to Christianity. They spew HATE speech against those different than the majority just like the Pharisees did in Jesus' time, and they ridicule and BELITTLE gay-lesbian-trans rights and mock the fact that we can be CHRISTIAN.



SHAME ON THEM, SHAME ON THEM, SHAME ON THEM! Everyone should be saying this! EVERYONE!



What an embarrassment, yet again, for the Christians of this country, and all that means to me is everyone needs to spread a message of INCLUSION - live & let live - you cannot tell other people who to love ---- BECAUSE YOU END UP WITH CLOSET CASES THAT SEEK OUT KIDS OR PROSTITUTES, LIKE FOLEY & HAGGARD DID! I know a guy like these two, I wish he'd grow up quick and realize the path he's on! He's headed for secret sex romps with men all while being married to a woman, and self hatred. Wake up AMERICA, quit being so JUDGEMENTAL! Thank God for the liberal believer. I'd think most of us gays woulda been killed when found out if it wasn't for friends of gays sticking up for us.



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[koopie57]

46. But we are forgetting what is really important ..

Clinton got a blowjob.