Lieberman (backstabbing repuke-wantabe turncoat - CT) Says Win Won't Be Debt to GOP

[jefferson_dem]

:puke:

Lieberman Says Win Won't Be Debt to GOP
By ANDREW MIGA, Associated Press Writer

Monday, November 6, 2006

(11-06) 12:27 PST Meriden, Conn. (AP) --

Though Sen. Joe Lieberman expects to win a lot of Republican votes Tuesday, the Connecticut lawmaker said he won't feel especially beholden to the GOP if he is elected to a fourth term.

"I'll owe everybody and that's the point," Lieberman said Monday as he pressed for final votes at a senior center in Meriden.

Lieberman, whose Senate career was at risk just three months ago after he lost to anti-war challenger Ned Lamont in the Democratic primary, led Lamont by 12 percentage points in a statewide poll released Monday.

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"It's taken me as an independent-minded Democrat and really empowered me to be more independent," said Lieberman, the Democrats' 2000 vice presidential nominee. "Parties are important, but they're not as important as the public interest."

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http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/11/06/politics/p112823S51.DTL

[williesgirl]

1. BULLSHIT - vote him out - recommended

[98geoduck]

17. EXACTLY! When writers are comparing him to Nixon, you might want to think twice....

The Odd Couple: Nixon and Lieberman
By Rick Perlstein

Is Joe Lieberman working to bring the troops home? The only way to judge is by his actions. And every time a smart resolution has come up in the Senate to change course, he has voted against it.

There’s a taboo in American politics against using the “N”-word—comparing a politician to Richard Nixon. But after spending five years writing a book on Nixon, I couldn’t help but notice some similarities with Connecticut’s junior senator—and I don’t just mean the mystery of how Joe Lieberman spent the mysterious $387,000 his campaign listed as “petty cash” in the days before the August 8 primary."

http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/2900/

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

2. Translation:

"Parties are important, but they're not as important as ME! MEMEMEMEMEMEME!"

[graywarrior]

3. Whining, self absorbed, self serving asshole.

[silverojo]

32. And he looks like a lizard

Just thought I should point that out. Bastard!!

[Eurobabe]

34. No, he looks like a whale!!

[skipos]

4. "the public interest?" Yeah, the public is really interested in dragging out that

war of yours. :eyes:

[GreenArrow]

5. He's a Prince

.

[geek tragedy]

9. Do not wound the Prince. eom

[LibDemAlways]

6. Public interest, my ass. The only interest

Lieberman has is self-interest - above party, above ideology...It's all about him. Any CT Dem who votes for the Bush-enabler ought to be ashamed.

[zara]

7. Nothing new. Already lickspittle egoistic turncoat.

[AndyTiedye]

8. He'd Switch Parties to Keep the GOP In Control

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

11. Bullshit.

Do you honestly think the Republicans would let him have any real power?

[AndyTiedye]

12. No REAL Power, Of Course Not. They'd Just Butter Him Up A Bit

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

13. Lieberman's power-hungry. He isn't stupid.

It is convenient for the Republicans to support Lieberman right now, but they have no more love of him than they do any other Democrat. He is not One Of Them, and he never will be. There's nothing they can offer him that will begin to come close to what the Democrats can offer him in terms of power. That's the simple fact of the matter.

[Ken Burch]

14. Actually, they could offer him something very important

He'd be in line to chair the Homeland Security committee if the Dems took over. In a 50-50 split(with Cheney firing the decisive round on each bill)they could vault him over the ranking R and make him chair of that committee anyway, just for insurance in case Uncle Dick's ticker blew out during a roll call. Then he could arrange wiretaps(and possibly arrests)for all of us without having to pretend to be liberal about anything anymore.

Think HolyWarJoe wouldn't jump at the chance for that?

Face reality. HolyWarJoe stopped being a Dem when he announced he wouldn't do the right thing and get out on primary night. He isn't loyal to us and there's no good reason for any Dem to trust him.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

18. I can't imagine why anyone would have trusted him in the first place.

It's been clear for a very long time that Joe was following his own weird, irrational path. But caucusing with the Republicans would be a step over the line, even for him. I expect we'll get a lot of bluster from him, but not much action once the committee assignments come down. Lieberman can bluster damn good, but he always comes down on the side of whoever will give him the most power in the end.

[Polesitter]

25. What did Jeffords get? Wasn't it Chairmanship of the committee

he wanted? At least until the 2002 election - then he got a ticket to hell. But in the Senate, the only real power you have is to STOP things, not to pass legislation - unless you have 60 votes.

[cali]

28. Interesting comment

As Jeffords did not switch for selfish gain, but because he could no longer tolerate being part of an immoral and hypocritical party.

[JerseygirlCT]

23. I don't think so. That would be uncharacteristically

decisive of him.

He'll caucus with the Dems, vote plenty of times with the GOP, and claim the solitary moral high ground of "non-partisan".

[against all enemies]

10. "public interest" that's a typo, he meant "personal interest" - his.

[Tiggeroshii]

15. If he wins, it would be good to make sure he sticks around, that is if we manage to get a majority.

[zanne]

16. MSNBC is "surprised" at his "comeback"

The media is talking about him like he died, then rolled back the stone. Today, they were talking about what a "comeback" he's made when the Democrats said he didn't stand a chance. Not one word about the little Party-changing tactic and the fact that he's being supported by the Republican Party. Pisses me off to no end. Ugh.

[fooj]

19. We'll just see about that, won't we?

It 'aint over 'til it's over. Wonder what the little weasel will do if he gets his ass handed to him tomorrow?

[98geoduck]

20. Mainstream Media Push Polling. It's ILLEGAL,and NON DEMOCRATIC!

I hope there are new laws that bring huge changes to the way these Propaganda Brothels operate.

[AzDar]

21. Give him hell, Ned... Joe-hole must go!! n/t

[DenaliDemocrat]

22. Of course he won't

He's the worst kind of asshole. A narcissistic one. He only cares about himself. When we win the House and the Senate, the little closet-shit will crow about how "happy" he is that the Democrats won.


There is no loyalty among thieves,
and there is none among DINOs either.

[98geoduck]

24. "Connecticut seen as bellwether in election" Please read article....

"The fate of the moderate wing of the Republican party also hangs in the balance. Connecticut's Republican members of Congress have long bucked their party on issues such as campaign finance reform, stem cell research, abortion rights and the minimum wage.

"If they go down, then the moderate voice within the Republican party is for all intents and purposes over for the foreseeable future," Rose said. "The polarization will be even more intense than it is."

With 86,000 new voters registered in Connecticut since May, state officials expect a voter turnout of about 65 percent, a near-record for a non-presidential election.

"I think there is a very strong interest in this election," said Secretary of the State Susan Bysiewicz. "The world is watching our U.S. Senate race. The nation is watching our three hotly contested Congressional races.""

Bysiewicz said her office is ready for a recount if necessary. Both parties are stepping up their monitoring of the results.

Candidates have long visited Connecticut's Gold Coast for fundraisers, but the state is typically ignored in presidential races because it's seen as a reliable blue state that will vote Democratic, Schwartz said. And its small size means few electoral votes.

This time national parties have poured millions of dollars into the races, resulting in an avalanche of negative television commercials and increasingly bitter races. Democrats have tried to tie the incumbents to the war and President Bush, while the Republicans have emphasized their independence.

But the close Congressional races show another side to Connecticut - its Yankee independent streak. Unaffiliated voters make up 44 percent of the state's 1.9 million eligible voters, compared to 35 percent for Democrats and 22 percent Republicans.

"I don't think we're a blue state. I think we are an independent state," said Ken Dautrich, a University of Connecticut public policy professor. "Connecticut, particularly those three Congressional districts, are highly independent and they're much more subject to the winds of change."



http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/local/state/hc-05120010.apds.m0601.bc-ct--connnov05,0,7403219.story?coll=hc-headlines-local-wire

[98geoduck]

26. Lamont Will WIN! Here's my take...

1.For all of those that have the least bit of belief in Quinnipiac Polls, for Anything but right wing bias, here's an add that's been on the top of AirAmericaRadio's website for the last month....http://www.shameonquinnipiac.org /

2.Internal Polls show Lamont CLOSER than Polls taken before the Primary Election that Joe LOST!
Incumbents typically need a large spread to defeat their challenger. Joe DOES NOT HAVE THIS.

3. I've been to several of Ned's events and the turnout and energy is Amazing. It puts Joe's hired and paid for "volunteers" to shame, as in 75-1.

4. Joe's "supporters" are typically republicans and cons "dem", and may either sit this one out, or vote republican(Schlessinger). There's virtually no "Strong Support"

5. Lieberman's name is difficult to locate on the ballot, and the republican candidate is much easier to find and check for all the senile republicans.

6. The Mainstream Media has been spinning and push polling this whole election for Joe, and there is STILL concern by them. Otherwise, they would not be continuing their rhetoric about how Joe will be a good "moderate" democrat, flaunting Qpac polls, then throwing in the possibilities for an upset to maintain credibility.

8. Ned's supporters are hard line democrats and Independents that want CHANGE, and are MOTIVATED to get out and VOTE!


QUIT BELIEVING ALL OF THE NAYSAYER, BULLSHIT, HYPE that trolls, polls and the MSM is throwing out there, because they aren't EVEN CLOSE!

With that said, GOTV intelligent CT residents!

[NastyRiffraff]

27. Hope you're right, 98geoduck!

I don't live in CT, but here in MD we're rooting for Ned!

As for HoJo, if he really believes he won't pay the price for Repug support, he's naive or stupid. However, I think he's just a liar.

[DemoTex]

29. Who - what sane person - could vote for Lieberman?

How does he have a backing at all? Blows my small mind, I tell you!

Mac

[Critters2]

48. Sane people didn't.....Republicans did. nt

[98geoduck]

30. New Poll...Joe will need a higher number than this for an incumbent to stay in power

New Poll... Lieberman: 48 Lamont: 44 Schlesinger: 5

"New Poll - Race Tightening?
by: NewHavenBoy
Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 16:29:59 PM EST

Here's a new Polimetrix poll released today:

Lieberman: 48
Lamont: 44
Schlesinger: 5
moe= +/- 7%


Certainly, Schlesinger is going to receive more than 5% of the vote, but the Lieberman/Lamont numbers are favorable - within the margin of error!

GOTV! We can make this happen!"
http://www.myleftnutmeg.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=4452

[Jennicut]

31. Connecticut Insider Here

I have lived in Connecticut all 30 years of my life and Joe Lieberman has been my senator since I was a freshman in High School, I think. He used to be really well liked. When Al Gore picked him as his VP running mate I thought cool, finally someone will pay attention to little old CT. But he really ticked alot of us off here. I was an independent but switched to a Democrat in 2004 because I was really fed up with the Repubs. I have never voted for a Republican but always considered myself independent until recently. A lot of people in CT still consider themselves as independents even if they side with one party all the time, like my Mom. She is voting for Lieberman this year but considers herself a moderate Republican. My Dad is an independent but is totally on the right wing of the Republicans, Rush is his hero, he listens to him everday. My brother and I rebelled and are so totally to the left, we still manange to get along with each other really well anyways, not too many shouting matches! CT is full of cities like Hartford and New Haven but we have rich bitchy towns like the one I grew up in like Cheshire. Rich and arrogant. Avon, Westport. Ironically, Ned Lamont is from Greenwhich which is very snotty. Lots of moderate to conservative Republicans there. Most Democrats and liberal independents won't vote for Joe tomorrow but he now has the support of people like my Dad and Mom. Alan whateverhisnameis won't get above 4%. No one has even heard of him. But Joe will get some stupid independents and Dems who say he saved the Groton Base for us! That is a big issue around here with alot of working class people I have talked to. Funny thing is the only thing my Dad even likes about Joe is his support of the war. The rest of his stands are really too moderate for him. Whatever. I think Joe will win as he will get the independents who are really Republicans and some moderate Dems and independents to vote for him. Ned Lamont ran a good primary but a bad Senate race. I received TONS of stuff for Joe but never from Ned in the mail. Don't fret it too much people, we have a tendency in CT to vote for idiots and then kick them out on their butts later on like John Rowland or Lowel Weicker. We might get Chris Murphy in over Nancy Johnson for the House in my district. Go Chris! And we might get rid of Rob Simmons and get Joe Courtney in. Shays looks like he is staying but I could never understand that one, guy is pretty looney if you ask me. Anyways, CT people like to pretend their independent and so we end up with people like Joe Lieberman. Repubs in sheeps clothing. And Vice Versa. Our Govenor Jodi Rell is actually so moderate/liberal I would have voted for her if not for being a Republican. Well, I will vote proudly for Lamont tomorrow as he had the courage to speak up against the war and really gave Lieberman a run for his money, Repub money that is.

[Bucky]

35. Great post (altho breaking it up into 2-3 paragraphs wouldn't hurt it).

Thanks for the view from inside the mindset of the Suburb State.

[Az_lefty]

33. Lieberman is such a slut...

:puke:

[Bucky]

36. I'm gonna read this differently than everyone else (apparently). I think it's good news.

Okay, obviously the point here is for Lieberman to nail down a few more votes out of Lamont's Democratic base. Like most things Joe says, it's self serving. Lamont losing this race is pretty tough to take, but I don't think we should lose perspective over this. Lieberman has said in the past he'd organize with the Democrats & add his vote to ensure a Democratic majority in the Senate. He's reaffirming that here. He's not that great at being a Democrat, but if he votes to put Democratic chairs in charge of the Senate committees, that's a decent trade off. He's saying here that that is the bargain. Fake Democrat, but real Democratic control, if we can nail down the other seats.

It's not ideal, but neither is democracy. It's messy, asymmetrical, and full of compromises. This is one of them. If we wake up Wednesday morning with a majority hangover, the bitter taste of Liebermouth will be tolerable. After 12 years of rampant anticonstitutionalism, I'll take what solace I can get.

Good luck, Ned, and thank you for standing up for our values.

[toopers]

37. Why is everyone so upset at JL?

He doesn't win if democrats do not support him. For whatever reason, he is getting a large portion of the democratic vote.

[Naipes]

39. He's getting the majority of the Republican vote...

...plus the losers that voted for him in the primary. That's not, "a large portion of the democratic vote." If it was a large portion he wouldn't have lost the primary.

The real question is, why do the Republicans support Leiberman and not Schlesinger?

[toopers]

46. The republicans support him for one reason . . .

they feel he is the lesser of two evils. They know Schlesinger cannot win in a state/district that has a 50% majority. That is why if the progressives were unified in Connecticut Joe would not win this election. However, Joe split the democratic vote and got most of the Republican and independent votes.

[progressivebydesign]

45. Perhaps because he lost the primary and refused to go away???

Or because he is willing and happy to take republican money to further his OWN ego? Little did we know that Joementum meant walking over the backs of a party that supported him for all those years, and yet he refused to step aside when it was time. He has zero character.. that's why. I used to like him.. a bit.. but mostly felt sorry for him. Now, because he was pimping for GOP money, I despise him. If he's an Independent now, then his money should have come from the Independent party.. whatever the hell that is.

[Naipes]

38. Lieberman will win, but he won't be the Senator from CT

Predictions:

1) Lieberman will win this farce of an election in CT.

2) Rumsfeld will resign or leave as Sec. of Defense.

3) Bush will appoint Leiberman as Sec. of Defense.

4) Republican Gov. Jodi Rell will appoint a Republican to take Lieberman's place.

It's enough to make me sick.
We're all fucked.
Democracy is dead in America.

[98geoduck]

40. News for ya, Latest poll is DEAD HEAT. 65 THOUSAND New registered voters...

This DOES NOT look good for Joe.

[DeepBlueC]

41. whose poll?

Where did you see this poll? I was thinking before that if he won, he might accept a cabinet position, being the relentless self-promoter that he is, but now I'm thinking he has bigger plans. I think he'd like to take a run up the middle for the presidency, selling his ability to get Republican support and Republican votes.

[98geoduck]

43. Polimetrix, and they are equal to internal polling!!!

Lieberman: 48
Lamont: 44
Schlesinger: 5
moe= +/- 7%

http://www.pollster.com/Polimetrix%20CCES%20Press%20Release%20110606.pdf

[98geoduck]

42. Liberated Joe on Fox News....

" Liberated Joe on Fox news
by: Scarce
Tue Nov 07, 2006 at 14:38:21 PM EST
From this morning. Utterly galling of course, and not for the weak of stomach, listening to mindless Foxnews drones go on and on with their GOP talking points and Lieberman agree with them, and how wonderfully free he is now...

Charles at the official blog has this tidbit:

Just heard this story that came from one of our volunteers in Milford? apparently, he was the only person from any campaign pollstanding at a polling place in Milford earlier this morning. All of a sudden, two or three out-of-state Fox News vans (accompanied by a Fox News crew) pull up and unload a bunch of Lieberman lawn signs, placed right in front of the Lamont signs that had already been planted. And, what do you know, after a few more minutes, who shows up but Joe himself, ready for the cameras.

Who needs a field organization (or an advance team) when you?ve got Fox?"

http://www.myleftnutmeg.com/frontPage.do

video of interview on Fox...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKldNB9OTWg&eurl=

[progressivebydesign]

44. Wow.. stupid AND spineless.. bad combo.

He think the repubs fucking financed him out of the goodness of their hearts?? Here is a man who will do ANYTHING to stay in that job... ANYTHING. He and John MCCain would be great pals I bet.

[On the Road]

47. Did You Hear Jon Stewart's Version of Lieberman's Comments Last Night?

He did that Curly/Elmer Fudd "Wub wub wub wub...." And Dan Rather could not stop laughing to keep the segment going.

[DeepBlueC]

52. I LOVED it

I nearly laughed myself off the couch, not only when I first saw it, but every time some other show ran it! Jon Stewart is no impressionist, but he nailed that one!

[DrZeeLit]

49. He has no shame. Talk about Re-Puke.... at least he can't run for Prez

again.

I just wish I never had to hear that whiney-assed voice again.

[Polesitter]

50. He'll probably say "have the DU crowd take turns sucking my

dick, or I'll be the Republican whip and give them the majority."

[DeepBlueC]

53. you think ...?

I hope you are right, but I think Joe is now seeing himself as Truly Bi-Partisan Man, got Republican and Democrat votes. Candidate. Pretty soon he'll be calling himself a Uniter, not a Divider. And I think he'll get far too much TV time.

[DrZeeLit]

55. But... what party would "take" him now? I hope NONE OF THE ABOVE.

Remember his pathetic attempt to make his loss in NH seem like a "win"?
Yeck.

He's just a dark hole of smarminess.

[sebastianj333]

51. It's too late my friends....

If he's reachable then lets mend fences and hope he'll vote with us MOST of the time anyways...

[DiverDave]

54. Bull, bought and paid for.

fuck off joe.

[Javaman]

56. yeah, right joe, oh don't forget your kneepads. nt