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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 10:10 PM
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Dobson to aid in counseling Haggard

oh my gosh!



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061107/ap_on_re_us/haggard_dobson

Dobson to aid in counseling Haggard

41 minutes ago

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. - Focus on the Family founder James Dobson will be one of the people overseeing counseling for the Rev. Ted Haggard, the evangelical pastor who was fired amid allegations of gay sex and drug use, a senior official of Dobson's organization said Monday.


The counseling process, called restoration, could take years, said H.B. London, vice president for church and clergy at Focus on the Family, a Colorado Springs-based ministry.

"I think it may be more in helping to set the requirements of the restoration, set the ground rules," London told The Associated Press.

Haggard was forced out as senior pastor of the 14,000-member New Life Church in Colorado Springs on Saturday after a former male escort alleged they had sex repeatedly and that Haggard sometimes was on methamphetamines during their trysts.

In a statement read at the church Sunday, Haggard confessed to unspecified "sexual immorality," accepted responsibility for his actions and asked forgiveness.
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 10:11 PM
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1. Counselling from Dobson.......
So how is that different from hell?
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 10:50 PM
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19. Now that is funny!
Thank you for that!

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Ian_rd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:13 AM
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57. Maybe Dobson will shower naked with Haggard to cure him?
"The boy's father has to do his part. He needs to mirror and affirm his son's maleness. He can play rough-and-tumble games with his son, in ways that are decidedly different from the games he would play with a little girl. He can help his son learn to throw and catch a ball. He can teach him to pound a square wooden peg into a square hole in a pegboard. He can even take his son with him into the shower, where the boy cannot help but notice that Dad has a penis, just like his, only bigger."

- Dr. Nicolosi, quoted by Dobson as a means to cure the gay

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/James_Dobson


:spray:
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 12:25 PM
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68. "just like his, only bigger" That is killing me!!!
Dobson is a freak. I can't imagine anyone taking that nut seriously.... do you think he gets off knowing that people are reading all about his "bigger penis"?
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 07:58 PM
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81. Dobson is a Pervert
he is like the Chimp

HE NEEDS VIOLENCE TO OBTAIN AROUSAL

LOL
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 11:52 PM
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28. Perhaps Dobson has a few issues himself?

Now that would be real torture
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 12:59 AM
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32. I think he does - he looks very, very repressed.
After all, the most blatant homophobes are closeted. They hate themselves, and it shows.
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Rambis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:39 AM
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59. I agree 100%
I have a friend who lives in the Springs and we talk about how we think Dobson is gay. He doth protest too much.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 10:12 PM
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2. Ted-keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer. Dobson is your enemy.
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spag68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 10:13 PM
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3. How can this be anything but a disaster????
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 10:13 PM
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4. Probably just wants some meth too
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 02:37 PM
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76. My thought exactly! (n/t)
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 10:13 PM
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5. So Dobson will try to talk Haggard out of being gay?

Strange times we're living in, folks.
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Thor_MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 10:16 PM
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8. Look for the bright side, Haggard may illuminate that Dobson's an asshole
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 08:51 AM
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42. you betcha!
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 09:58 AM
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56. Dobson will surely try.
Many of these Christian Pastors believe that their Christian Counseling can, "cure " homosexuality...

but, as a gay supervisor once told me, "they may be able to help a person not to act on their attraction to a same sex person ... but stop it, cure it ... they are delusional!
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MotorCityMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 12:03 PM
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64. Exactly...
You can change behavior, not your orientation...
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 01:55 PM
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71. these christian counselors however believe that they can change orientation.
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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 10:14 PM
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6. Counseling him with big-wet-kisses!
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Nostradammit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 10:15 PM
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7. Is he going to show him his penis?
In the shower, maybe?
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gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 10:30 PM
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13. Yeppers !!!
That's Dobson's prescription for how to turn boys into men. Take 'em in the shower and show 'em your penis.

excuse me for screaming, but WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE???
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Blue Gardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 06:27 AM
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39. Are you serious?
That's disgusting. What a perv.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 10:59 PM
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23. "Eat this! This is my body!"
Nothing like a good Bible verse before a Focus on the Family massage.
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 09:28 AM
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50. Remind me to get a new keyboard next time I'm at the store.
:rofl:
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 12:22 PM
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67. OMG... thank god I wasn't drinking anything when I read that! n/t
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 04:58 AM
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37. LOL! I was wondering the same thing!
Hey, if showering with a kid and showing him your penis will keep him from being gay, maybe it can have a retroactive effect.

On the other hand, if Dobson were to soap up his penis in the shower with Haggard, that might also put the guy off of any type of sex whatsoever.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 09:16 AM
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47. I'll Bet Jimmy's Really Looking Forward to That
...
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 09:53 AM
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55. It is my fervent hope that someday some rw nutcase will
take Dobson's advice and do the shower bit with his kid. The next day in school kid mentions the show-and-tell session to a teacher who, in turn, calls the cops as the law requires. Daddy is then led away in handcuffs declaring "You don't understand. James Dobson told me to do this. I'm just focusing on my family..." LOL
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 10:17 PM
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9. A bit of scriptural lesson would perhaps be in order:
"If the blind lead the blind, they both fall in the ditch."
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 10:18 PM
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10. the ditch may be good place for them.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 10:34 PM
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15. I don't seem to be able to select between the nasty thoughts
that the ditch and the creepy criminal cabal combination bring up.

I have never so thoroughly disliked and been so consumately disgusted by any one group before in my life.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 06:55 PM
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79. Verily!
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 10:20 PM
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11. These people are totally insane.
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anitar1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 04:21 AM
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35. This all started years ago when Raygun closed
the mental facilities in Calif. and turned them out on the streets.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 08:59 AM
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45. Those poor people have an actual mental diagnosis. These ones are just crazy.
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TOhioLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 10:28 PM
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12. Why does the phrase...
...'you can either be a part of the problem, or part of the solution, but not both' come to mind?
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chieftain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 10:31 PM
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14. Haggard will be in the clutches of "Dare to Discipline" Dobson.
Things I have read about Dobson indicate a streak of cruelty of profound proportions in the man. I feel no sympathy for Haggard but have to think that the notion of his "restoration" under the tutelage of a creep like Dobson is exemplary of how twisted and dysfunctional these people really are.
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Cass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 10:35 PM
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16. Ok, Haggard needs help with his meth problem but from a legitimate counselor not Dobson or any other
religious whack jobs. He also needs help in accepting that he is gay or bisexual. I don't foresee this as ending well for Haggard, his wife or his children.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 10:37 PM
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17. I was going to add something ..
but you DUers have said it all - and it was well-put!
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 10:48 PM
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18. Ha-HAH!!!1 To get phone numbers?????? n/t
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 10:52 PM
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20. I'm not hearing much of anything about his wife and five kids
They need counseling after living with that hypocrite
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 10:52 PM
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21. Cocksucking Session Imminent!
:rofl:
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 10:57 PM
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22. Emoticons can express what words can't.....
:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
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pearl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 11:13 PM
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24. What a disgusting idea
Dobson is a FREAK!
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Sadie5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 11:34 PM
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25. Seems like I remember
something about Dobson getting caught hiring a prostitute or something like that. His excuse was that he was 'counseling' the guy.Correct me if I am wrong.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 11:44 PM
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26. Probably doing meth and having massages together
Dobson will throw in some lessons in puppy beating.
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aaronbees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 11:50 PM
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27. Restoration? LOL
This is the blind leading the blind.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 09:03 AM
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46. King James version....The book of "Re-boot".
"and so it shall come to be known to the sodomites that the Lord has given you re-bootedness, a restoration of the sexual hard drive"...
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 12:11 AM
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29. Dobson probably part of the cause
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 12:16 AM
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30. dude is a john and a junkie... he needs treatment and jail time.
counseling my ass.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 12:57 AM
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31. he's probably going to beat on Haggard's peepee with a rod! He loves
beating on kids.
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jdadd Donating Member (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 02:32 AM
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33. Dobson will try a new type of baptism
Waterboarding.....Tortured straight!!
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colorado_ufo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 03:31 AM
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34. Not sure if this will work . . .
He doesn't seem like Ted's type of guy.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 04:28 AM
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36. 1-on-1, or 'group'? Bow-chika-BOW-bow....
Stick and stones may break my bones,
but whips and chains excite me!
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 06:26 AM
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38. I recommend intense massage therapy
And lots of Nyquil.

Why do I get the feeling the cure will be worse than the disease?
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 06:29 AM
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40. Just trading one d--k for another nt
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 07:25 AM
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41. I see it's a "male escort" and not a hooker, whore, or prostitute.
THOSE terms are reserved for the wimmins.
:grr:
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 08:52 AM
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43. Isn't that special!
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 08:53 AM
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44. As Dobson enters Haggards bedroom in his Puritan garb
he can see his breath clearly. The room is decorated with posters of body builders on the walls and over the headboard a large personally signed one from Arnold. He knows this will be difficult. The Demon of Pottery Barn and Crate and Barrell have left their marks as furniture in the room.

His patient now lays on the bed, a flat screen opposite running continuous loops of old Steve Reeves gladiator movies.

Dobson kneels down and pulls a CD of "The Passion Of The Crotch" from his bag.

"Damn she-woman wife gave me the wrong bag!"
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 09:21 AM
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48. Wow, talk about an orgy of repression and denial
They'll probably spend their time beating each other with riding crops and watching gay porn for "therapeutic" reasons.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 09:26 AM
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49. I'm waiting for Phillips' family to protest Haggard's church.
now, that would be something to see.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 09:30 AM
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51. "Rehab" for fundies
If you want to go back to taking the money of the sheep, you need to be sanitized by somebody bigger who's not been caught yet. Ted's just gotta tithe 10% of the income to Dobson, that's all it's gonna cost him.


Damn freaking fundies who buy their salvation on TV just like cheap shit costume jewelry on QVC...

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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 09:35 AM
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52. Pot. Kettle. Black. nt
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 09:47 AM
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53. Break out the condoms, KY and Meth...it's party time with Dobson!
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ItsTheMediaStupid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 09:52 AM
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54. Let the Fundy-Rehab begin, it'll go something like this:
First, he'll be disciplined and set straight by Dr. Dobson. Will Dobson be using leather and whips? Perhaps Dobson will throw in a little bondage to go with the discipline.

Then he'll go on the road with one of these Jesus Cured Me of Homosexuality! shows.

Finally, if he doesn't hook up with some cute guy on the road, he'll be allowed to start fleecing his flock again.

Otherwise, Lather, rinse, repeat...
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:28 AM
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58. I'm starting to feel bad for him.
DOBSON? So that Haggard can be brainwashed for years about how he's going to hell, etc.? He just needs to accept who he is.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:49 AM
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60. This is all well and good, however, what about the meth purchase?
And what about the solicitation of a prostitute?

Haggard broke some laws here, so when does he go to jail?

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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 11:17 AM
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61. Will he show him his penis?
Like he advocates for male children?

-Hoot
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 11:19 AM
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62. Dobson: I hear he puts out! nt
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 12:00 PM
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63. Just one more repressed fundie and they can have a circle jerk. n/t
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 12:12 PM
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65. great so Dobson and Haggard can bash gays together
Edited on Tue Nov-07-06 12:13 PM by superconnected
while denying Haggard is one, or at least has strong homosexual tendencies.

Wonder if Dobson is also a repressed gay. I wouldn't doubt it by his fear of gays.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 12:21 PM
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66. Oh God! It's that crazy religious "de-programming"!!
Like those frightening 'stop being gay' facilities where they badger you to deny who you really are. If Haggard hadn't preyed upon thousands of people, living like a king on their money while lying through his teeth, I'd be concerned that he'd kill himself. But right now... I don't really care.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 12:43 PM
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69. From One Brainwasher to Another
"pretend you aren't gay....stay in the closet or I too may have to come out of mine!"
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 12:58 PM
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70. Haggard, "I'm cured!!! Cured!! Thank the Lord, never again will I put a
penis in my mouth!! The good Lord has showeth the lighteth!!"
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 01:59 PM
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72. LOL, "counseling"
Jimmy just wants a hookup. Clearly Ted knows how to get the good shit.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 02:03 PM
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73. Dobson is going to shove his erect penis into Haggard's rectum
Just to show him, in no uncertain terms, how much he disapproved of his behavior.
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bpeale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 02:15 PM
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74. i feel relieved
that just makes my day to know this. you can't change a gay to a straight no matter how many years you spend trying.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 02:23 PM
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75. nothing wrong with a manly man providing needed 'counsel' to another!
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 02:51 PM
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77. Well, Dobson wants a piece of the action too n/t
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 07:09 PM
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80. oh BARF!
you're bad! lol...



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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 06:47 PM
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78. "Focus on the Fellatio"
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B3Nut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 08:14 PM
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82. HA!
BWAHAHAAHAHA!!!!!

:spray:

Todd in Beerbratistan
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Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 08:36 PM
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83. A Loser Counseling Another Loser!
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:56 PM
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84. counseling in how to not get caught?
Dobson has lots to answer for; I wonder who will counsel him when the cops come for him?
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 11:17 PM
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85. Is that what the kids are calling it these days?
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 11:41 PM
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86. sorry to report dobson
had to "back out" of his "counseling duties" because he didn`t have the "time to complete" his "healing"...he must have heard footsteps
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