Allen awaits official tally

[Cheney Killed Bambi]

A senior advisor to George Allen's Senate campaign said Allen would wait until after the vote is official later this month to decide whether to seek a recount.

Ed Gillespie said Jim Webb was leading Allen by about 7,000 votes this morning, or about .3 percent of the total votes cast. He said that could change during the official canvas that is starting today in localities around the state. He said it is likely some vote totals will change as mistakes in tabulating totals are discovered....

"We'll want to see how the canvassing turns out" before deciding on whether to ask for a recount, he said.

http://www.timesdispatch.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=RTD/MGArticle/RTD_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1149191582547


Looks like he might not request a recount!

[maddezmom]

1. Cheney Killed Bambi

please edit your headline to actual title: Allen awaits official tally

thanks in advance :)

[Cheney Killed Bambi]

2. Done!

:-)

[maddezmom]

3. Thanks

:hi: I hope your first title is correct and he won't call for one. But I have a feeling WAAAALLEN will call for one.

[roseBudd]

4. I'm Sore McCaccaMan and I want to say, I fooled the voters in a very

deceitful way

[fob]

5. Can't we just have Webb flown to the House and have Madame

Speaker swear him in? Isn't that what the repukes did with whatshisface in San Diego? Fuck Waaaaalllenn and his "awaiting", swear Webb in and throw waaallleennn's shit out in the hallway.

[MiniMe]

7. Pelosi isn't the speaker until January. And Allen is not in the house

I'm not sure what the procedure is in the Senate.

[fob]

12. This is the bush* era where rules are quaint and laws don't apply

Let's just do it and leave it for the republicks to cry about.

note: crawling down to their level for just a tiny bit

[Demeter]

6. Sounds Like Trying to Round Up a Few Buddies for a Gang War

Does Allen realize that the longer the wait, the less tenable his position?

[LordLovesAWorkingMan]

9. He lost. It's Over.

VA doesn't have provisions like FL had. They can't reverse several thousand votes from thin air.

Maybe they should have stolen a few thousand more votes?

Heh.

[Tiggeroshii]

8. What's an "official canvas?"

Could that explain what has been going on with the count?

[torrentprime]

10. Canvas

Is basically a retally. Not a recount, but a retally. They go back through the totals and the numbers and make sure that they copied column A into database B correctly, and so on.


(someone check me on this if I'm wrong)

[ckramer]

11. Allen, go home to be with your family!

LOL

[oberliner]

13. In Va., Allen refuses to concede to Webb

RICHMOND, Va. - Republican Sen. George Allen refused to concede defeat Wednesday, even as Democrat Jim Webb declared victory and began assembling a transition team.

With Republican Sen. Conrad Burns' loss in Montana, the Democrats would gain control of the Senate if Webb's lead holds. The margin between the two Virginia candidates was about 7,000 votes.

"The votes are in and we won," Webb declared. With 99 percent of precincts reporting, Webb had 1,169,285 votes, or 49.6 percent, to Allen's 1,162,577, or 49.3 percent.

Allen's campaign, however, said the Senator would wait for a full review of the Virginia vote.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061108/ap_on_el_se/va_eln_virginia_senate_15

[coalition_unwilling]

14. Mr. Macaca is a sore loser. n/t

[Waya]

15. Figures.....

:mad:

[4_Legs_Good]

16. I wouldn't concede either

though I hope he does!

david

[AndyTiedye]

17. Allen Isn't Having a Good Day

[devilgrrl]

18. Guess he'll have to stuff a deer head in Webb's mailbox...

the gutless jock asshole.

[sharp_stick]

19. I wouldn't do it either

I mean if it was a dem this close behind and he/she decided to throw in the towel we'd be totally pissed off. I think Webb has it but I don't mind a recount. I'm all for recounts when it's a close election, it's the pukes that like to stop them before they start.

[LiberalArkie]

22. I am a liberal so I believe in making sure the total resembles the will

of the people. The conservatives believe they know better than the people do.

[Sequoia]

36. Need I remind you of Gore and Kerry conceding before all the counts were in.

In this case though, Allen should see the writing on the wall.

[Claire Beth]

20. bwahahaha

all of a sudden, the repugs have fallen in love with "RECOUNTS"!!!

:dem:

[ShortnFiery]

24. It don't matter - the votes won't change when you are merely

confirming the numbers off of Diebold Screens. :rofl:

Allen won't flip 7000 votes - all of us in Virginia, both Democrats and Repubicans KNOW Allen is delaying the inevitable.

Webb WON and it will be certified on November 27th according to state law.

God Bless The Great State of Virginia! - we hold mostly corruption free elections. :-)

[LostinVA]

33. Yup, can't recount totals off machines

No hanging chads to argue about in the Old Dominion.

Poor Felix.... bwwwahhh!

[harlinchi]

34. Hey! I thought V A was a commonwealth!

I know they're used interchangeably but I have not posted to see my 'I voted' avatar.

Anyhow, like you said, God Bless The Great State of Virginia!

[dchill]

38. Yes, now recounts are...

serious, legitimate business. No talk of sore losers or hanging chads. Now they're just interested in getting an "accurate" count! The times, they are a changing.

Goose, meet gander.

[Beetwasher]

21. Fine W/ Me, I'm All For A RECOUNT!! Allen Better HOPE He Covered His Tracks Up Well

I say we go over that election w/ a fine toothed comb. Webb will STILL win AND we may just find enough evidence to prosecute anyone who committed fraud.

[williesgirl]

23. Go find a job, you bum!

[KamaAina]

25. I believe it was Stalin who said...

"It's not who votes that counts, it's who counts the votes."

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/08/us/politics/08cnd-recount.html

After certification, a losing candidate has 10 days to file a recount request in the state courts. The petition will be considered by a panel made up of the chief judge of the Circuit Court in Richmond and two judges appointed by the chief justice of the State Supreme Court. Those judges then set out guidelines for conducting the recount.

Two of three judges appointed by the Chief Justice of the Va. Supreme Court? Just who is he, anyway?

http://www.regent.edu/news/hassellchiefjustice.html

VIRGINIA BEACH, Va.—Leroy Rountree Hassell, Sr., a Norfolk native and Regent University Jurist in Residence, was recently selected Virginia’s Supreme Court Chief Justice. His election occurred under a new law passed by the General Assembly, allowing a majority vote over seniority for selection.

He's the "jurist in residence" at what was once known as "CBN University", that's who. Boy, are we screwed. :scared:

[ShortnFiery]

32. Nope, with Diebold machines, what's to recount but a few precincts

who have both Diebold and Scanning Machines? That's not many paper ballots and scanning machines are a helluva lot more accurate than "hanging chads."

It's just a matter of when Allen will wake up to the REALITY that he lost.

Yeah baby, you lost on those gawd awful Diebold machines that you had no problem not sporting a paper trail. Score one for J U S T I C E.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

26. It's so sweet that maccaca/I'm not Jewish, oh wait, I am/my thugs will crush your skull/

George Allen is the sole thread to which the repubs Senate majority clings.

I can't believe I'm actually enjoying US politics today! MKJ

[9119495]

31. Wouldn't it be neat if 7300 people came forward and said

"I was going to vote for Allen, but when his thugs beat up that poor man, I changed my vote to Webb then and there."

Justice.

[Tight_rope]

27. Good for him...Now he'll go down as a dumbass sore losser...

With 7,000 votes more for Webb...bring in the lawyers and the camera's...let the recounts begin.

[newscott]

28. Sore loser! Sore loser! Sore loser!

[w4rma]

29. Awesome. (nt)

[LostinVA]

30. Felix can NOT make up 7,000+ votes

Even through shenanigans.

I told y'all he's a megalomaniac, sociopath, and bully who will bitch about this until Webb takes his seat in the Senate in January.

[atfqn]

40. Might not be able to make them up.

But they can recount/lose quite a few. Something is going on. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2645049

[LostinVA]

41. No they can't/won't, and no, nothing is going on

NIce try, though...

[alcibiades_mystery]

35. Waaaaallen! Waaaaallen! Waaaaaallen!

:rofl:

[Megahurtz]

37. Here Dude,

Here's something to make ya feel better.

[nam78_two]

39. Oh get lost you whiny dick

sheehsh...He is gonna lose no matter what(at least I hope so-I hope Webb puts up a huge fight-with the FBI investigating voter intimidation in VA hopefully this one is in the bag) ...does he HAVE to waste everyone's time in the process...
pathetic lameass....sheesh...

[mitchum]

42. Get over it, you faux cracker genuine asshole

[mikeytherat]

47. "faux cracker, genuine asshole" - that is senator macaca to a T

I've always used, "Carpetbagging, shit-kicking, tobackky-spittin, racist, ignorant, good-ole-boy wannabe," but your description is much more succinct. Might I borrow it for future use?

:patriot:

mikey_the_rat

[mitchum]

50. Use away, my friend :)

[Acadia Blue]

43. Poor little KKK anti-Jew, even though he is one, racist piece of human

trash. I just hope he goes away into the private sector.

[Doremus]

44. What is it they like to say to us in such instances? Oh yeah ....

GET OVER IT!

That felt good for a change. ;-)


(This is going to be a fun 2 years.)

[childslibrarian]

45. I was interested to hear on CNN

Bay Buchanan say that Allen should not go to the courts, not draw it out.. and agree that "7,000 votes is a lot to overcome..."
Repubs are dropping like flies...

[hippiechick]

57. Yea, Ed Rollings said the same thing on Dobbs...

n/t

[MiniMe]

46. It is Virginia law to poll the precints to check for math errors after every election

That should only take a few days, and they should by all means do that. But a total recount could take 3 weeks. Perhaps Allen should have considered this before he uttered his Macaca tirade. I think that is the main thing that brought on his loss, of course there are other factors too.

[ShortnFiery]

53. They can only recount 25% of the VA voters who voted using

optical scanners. The remaining 75% voted on paperless Diebold machines. That tally aint gonna change because there is NO POSSIBILITY to actually recount these votes. :shrug:

This is precious. Allen is toast almost from the start because the Republican Manufactured Diebold machines ATE 75% of the votes in Virginia. Count the tallies folks and tell Allen to BE A MAN and admit defeat. :-)

[geek tragedy]

48. Sore loserman. eom

[IggleDoer]

49. Apparently Allen doesn't give up easily

After all, he still keeps a confederate flag in his office!

[Anakin Skywalker]

51. GET OVER IT! Yeah! In Your Face, Georgie!

[smb]

52. Good

The longer this race is in the news, the more attention the FBI investigation will draw.

[Anakin Skywalker]

55. Obstructionist Turd!

[Jennos20]

54. As Stephen Colbert would say...

DEAL WITH IT!!!!!

[Bonescrat]

56. Canvassing is Va state law.

The votes are not recounted during the canvassing. It's the tally's that are rechecked for transcription/math errors etc. It's done this way every year. Unlikely that the vote shift will be enough to flip the outcome but there will be a vote shift. In fact there already has been.

[Rockholm]

58. Stop waiting, dude, AP has called the election....FOR WEBB!