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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 12:07 PM
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Bush says open to suggestions on Iraq
President George W. Bush, signaling a more conciliatory approach after suffering electoral losses this week, said on Thursday he was "open to any idea or suggestion" on the Iraq war.

The incoming Democratic-controlled Congress is expected to exert more pressure on Bush for a course correction in Iraq amid rising U.S. casualties and violence.

"I'm open to any idea or suggestion that will help us achieve our goals of defeating the terrorists and ensuring that Iraq's democratic government succeeds," Bush said in a Rose Garden appearance with members of his Cabinet.

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=politicsNews&storyID=2006-11-09T164908Z_01_N18176231_RTRUKOC_0_US-IRAQ-BUSH.xml&WTmodLoc=NewsHome-C3-politicsNews-3
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Rob H. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 12:20 PM
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1. Pssh. Of course he is NOW
He's only being conciliatory because he's terrified over what investigations the Democrats might launch in '07. (And if he isn't wetting his pants in fear, he damned well should be.)

He must really be feeling his lame-duckness today. Poor Georgie. :nopity:
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 12:20 PM
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2. More Bushit!
Edited on Thu Nov-09-06 12:22 PM by Whoa_Nelly
How about Baker's little elite Iraq study group, that also involves Robert Gates?

A "Cover Bush's Ass" group that only has the appearance of being bipartisan, and is set up to screw with the Dems for 2008.

Read snips here, but entire article is worth the read:

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2006/0609.dreyfuss.html

A Higher Power
James Baker puts Bush's Iraq policy into rehab.

By Robert Dreyfuss
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Amid the highly charged political infighting in Washington over what to do in Iraq, you might be excused for not noticing that a bipartisan commission quietly started work last spring with a mandate to help the Bush administration rethink its policy toward the war. Of course, anything labeled "bipartisan commission" seems almost guaranteed to be ignored by a highly partisan White House that is notoriously hostile to outside advice and famously devoted to "staying the course." But what makes this particular commission hard to dismiss is that it is led by perhaps the one man who might be able to break through the tight phalanx of senior officials who advise the president and filter his information. That person is the former secretary of state, Republican insider, and consigliere of the Bush family, James A. Baker III.
Since March, Baker, backed by a team of experienced national-security hands, has been busily at work trying to devise a fresh set of policies to help the president chart a new course in--or, perhaps, to get the hell out of--Iraq. But as with all things involving James Baker, there's a deeper political agenda at work as well. "Baker is primarily motivated by his desire to avoid a war at home--that things will fall apart not on the battlefield but at home. So he wants a ceasefire in American politics," a member of one of the commission's working groups told me. Specifically, he said, if the Democrats win back one or both houses of Congress in November, they would unleash a series of investigative hearings on Iraq, the war on terrorism, and civil liberties that could fatally weaken the administration and remove the last props of political support for the war, setting the stage for a potential Republican electoral disaster in 2008. "I guess there are people in the party, on the Hill and in the White House, who see a political train wreck coming, and they've called in Baker to try to reroute the train."


<snip>
Baker's commission--officially called the Iraq Study Group--was created in March by Congress at the instigation of Rep. Frank Wolf, a Virginia Republican. After his third trip to Iraq last year, Wolf started contacting members of Congress on both sides of the aisle, urging the creation of a high-powered, private task force to take a fresh look at the mess in Iraq. "If you had a very serious illness...and you weren't completely comfortable that everything was going the way you hoped, you'd certainly want to get a second opinion," Wolf told me. At least 30 members of Congress supported the idea, including Rep. Christopher Shays (R-Conn.) and Sen. Joseph Biden (D-Del.). According to participants in the task force, a key silent partner with Wolf in putting it together was his Virginia Republican colleague, Sen. John Warner, the chairman of the powerful Senate Armed Services committee.

<snip>
The president may have had another political motive for giving his blessing to the endeavor. If--and it's a very big if--Baker can forge a consensus plan on what to do about Iraq among the bigwigs on his commission, many of them leading foreign-policy figures in the Democratic Party, then the 2008 Democratic presidential nominee--whoever he (or she) is--will have a hard time dismissing the plan. And if the GOP nominee also embraces the plan, then the Iraq war would largely be off the table as a defining issue of the 2008 race--a potentially huge advantage for Republicans.

<snip>
"The object of our policy has to be to get our little white asses out of there as soon as possible," another working-group participant told me. To do that, he said, Baker must confront the president "like the way a family confronts an alcoholic. You bring everyone in, and you say, 'Look, my friend, it's time to change.'"

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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 12:26 PM
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3. Uh huh
And how many people died while you were being the Decider and staving off any criticism or honest assessment of your blundering ways in Iraq? And by "people," I'm referring not only to American military personnel, but also Iraqis, none of whom had anything to do with the September 11 attacks, and prior to March 2003 had no reason to wish us ill or harm?

How many dead because of your stubborn refusal to deal with reality, Mr. Bush? How many sacrificed their lives on the altar of Republican infallibility?
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 12:28 PM
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4. If you see this country listed for sale on ebay
by a seller named Dimson then please report direct to spoofs@ebay. It's a fraud : he's not the legitimate owner.
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drdtroit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 12:28 PM
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5. GET OUT !!! n/t

:patriot:
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luckyleftyme2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 12:53 PM
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7. HIS HISTORY LESSON WAS EXPENSIVE

My god man even your father knew better than to go into bagdad! Now like the stubborn fool you are your going to put in an ex-cia agent as sect. of state. DO you realy think the middle east is going to trust him?
At least put a retired millitary man as gates second in charge and let him do the overseeing of ending this mess.
This will free gates up to fend off the other messes you and your dummies have created.
Believe me that will be more than he can handle.

COME ON PELOSI GET ON THAT PHONE AND CLUE "KING GEORGE IN"
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 12:46 PM
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6. It is unbelievable that he is "open to ideas or suggestions"..
regarding the Iraq War, as if he were talking about redecorating his house or some such thing. It is obvious he hasn't the foggiest what to do about it. He now wants others to try to get him out of this mess, three years after the fact. Destroy a country and then ask for suggestions makes it seem like we're living in a bad dream, only it is all to real.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 12:55 PM
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8. Sen. John Kerry ran against Bush on a slew of suggestions. He could start with some of them. (nt)
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 12:55 PM
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9. "Message: I don't know what the fuck I'm doing."
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 01:04 PM
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10. I want that man imprisoned for his crimes
I'm done. If America doesn't hold Bush accountable then obviously nothing he did harmed America or anywhere else...because if he harmed America with his lies and crimes, then America would charge him for those crimes. So if they don't....evidently he didn't do any damage. That's the message America sends to the world by not charging Bush for his crimes.

We really want the world to see an America that allows it's war criminals to go free?


Bush gets away with it now,some other thug just like him will come along one day and try the same kinds of shit.

Send Bush to prison today for a better tomorrow.
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pokercat999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 04:48 PM
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23. I have a fool proof suggestion for Mr. Bush. Two parts.
The day after Polosi becomes speaker.

#1 murder Dick "Fuck you" Cheney
#2 Commit suicide

end of problem

No guts? Of course I knew that, ok you and dicky boy resign and turn yourself into the Iraqi courts to sit beside Mr. Hussein end of problem.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 01:04 PM
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11. Rocknation suggests Bush go directly to The Hauge
:patriot:
rocknation
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 01:24 PM
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12. omg...what an ass
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 01:26 PM
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13. So, now you want us to clean up your mess? may I suggest rectal insertion...
1. Defeat the terrorists
2. Ensure the "success" of Iraq's "democratic" government

Ya know, these are the kinds of things you think about before you invade and occupy a country for No Good Reason.

I would propose that you finish the job in Afghanistan and learn about major regional ethnic divisions before fucking with Iraq, but I guess it's a little too late for that now.

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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 02:08 PM
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14. OK: The President should visit Iraq for a week or so, walk around the
streets, chat with ordinary Iraqis in placers like Fallujah, and see what THEY tell him. He can learn about our progress there first hand and get to see all the repainting we did with the reconstruction money.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 02:16 PM
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15. The little fucker actually thinks it is that easy? After waving the bloody shirt for
the last 5 years, now he says he is "open to suggestions" when the people finally threw the bloody shirt back in his face?
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 02:49 PM
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16. 1. Announce we are sorry for what we did
2. Announce plans to pull out immediately
3. Begin working on logistics to accomplish leaving immediately
4. Go on hands and knees to UN and beg for help
5. Say we will supply $$$ for UN missions to help Iraq
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meti57b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 02:49 PM
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17. "I'm open to suggestions" = "I have no clue" or "talk all you want but I'm not doing it"
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happydreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 02:54 PM
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18. Mr. PeeResident please tell us about the
14 permanent military bases the US has been building in Iraq since the war began. Then please tell us how Iraq ever could have been or ever could be a democracy under permanent US occupation?
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mikeytherat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 02:58 PM
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19. "Open to suggestions" = I DON'T HAVE A PLAN
Chimpy McCodpiece is certain he and only he can win in Iraq - he has told us as such on numerous occasions. Why would he take suggestions at all? From anyone? He's the damn "decider," ain't he?

mikey_the_rat
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 03:01 PM
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20. Here's a couple: Call Kofi. Call Chirac.
Call Pooty Poot. Get everybody together, and listen.
Punk.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 03:02 PM
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21. His stupid ass should have been open to suggestions 4 years ago!
:freak:
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 04:39 PM
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22. If we leave now, we lose.
If we leave later, we lose more.

Guess what, Dumbyass? We never should have gone there in the first place!
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bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 04:58 PM
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24. I wonder if he always has been, just too stupid to disagree.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 09:28 PM
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25. What a difference a day makes..................
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