A Troubling Influence

[denverbill]

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=11209

It is with a heavy heart therefore, that I am posting this article, which is the most complete documentation extant of Grover Norquist’s activities in behalf of the Islamist Fifth Column. I have confronted Grover about these issues and have talked to others who have done likewise. But it has been left to Frank Gaffney and a few others, including Daniel Pipes and Steven Emerson, to make the case and to suffer the inevitable recriminations that have followed earlier disclosures of some aspects of this story.

Up to now, the controversy over these charges has been dismissed or swept under the rug, as a clash of personalities or the product of one of those intra-bureaucratic feuds so familiar to the Washington scene. Unfortunately, this is wishful thinking. The reality is much more serious. No one reading this document to its bitter end will confuse its claims and confirming evidence with those of a political cat fight. On the basis of the evidence assembled here, it seems beyond dispute that Grover Norquist has formed alliances with prominent Islamic radicals who have ties to the Saudis and to Libya and to Palestine Islamic Jihad, and who are now under indictment by U.S. authorities. Equally troubling is that the arrests of these individuals and their exposure as agents of terrorism have not resulted in noticeable second thoughts on Grover’s part or any meaningful effort to dissociate himself from his unsavory friends.

As Frank Gaffney’s article recounts, Grover’s own Islamic Institute was initially financed by one of the most notorious of these operatives, Abdurahman Alamoudi, a supporter of Hamas and Hezbollah who told the Annual Convention of the Islamic Association of Palestine in 1996, “If we are outside this country we can say ‘Oh, Allah destroy America.’ But once we are here, our mission in this country is to change it.” Grover appointed Alamoudi’s deputy, Khaled Saffuri to head his own organization. Together they gained access to the White House for Alamoudi and Sami al-Arian and others with similar agendas who used their cachet to spread Islamist influence to the American military and the prison system and the universities and the political arena with untold consequences for the nation.

Parts of this story have been published before, but never

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Eating their own. I never thunk I'd see it. Horowitz blasting Norquist. It's like watching Godzilla vs Mothra. You hope they both kill each other before they destroy Tokyo.

[DoYouEverWonder]

1. Didn't Ashcroft

say something about those who aid terrorists are terrorists? Now, if that is true, then it seems that there is a terrorist in our midst that has a direct link to the WH?

[denverbill]

2. You should see the reaction at the nuthouse.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1036747/posts

Thanks for posting this article. Traitors among us must be exposed.

8 posted on 12/09/2003 4:51:37 AM PST by Taxman


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I hope conservatives ride Norquist out of town on a rail. Let Norquist taste a bit of the conservative bile he's been spewing.

[newyorican]

5. select quotes:

To: kattracks
Wow, after all that.. do I really need the article?
I say we tie Grover to the tail of the next 747 to Riyadh and revoke his citizenship


4 posted on 12/09/2003 1:47:47 AM PST by GeronL (My tagline for rent..... $5 per month or 550 posts/replies, whichever comes first... its a bargain!!)

I sense issues...

To: Bob J
I'm not very familiar with this particular situation, but is Norquist a practicing religious Muslim?

If so, regardless of what can or can't be proven he needs to be at least gone... at most jailed.

36 posted on 12/09/2003 7:35:57 AM PST by AAABEST


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religious issues also...

To: hchutch
You're excused. Our constitution doesn't protect our enemies.
Islam wants us gone. We can learn that the easy way or our children can learn it the hard way.


41 posted on 12/09/2003 7:45:02 AM PST by AAABEST
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not sure who this one is addressed to...don't think the poster knows either...

To: AAABEST



I'm not very familiar with this particular situation, but is Norquist a practicing religious Muslim?

Not that I've ever seen.

He's just a shill for terror sympathizers.




44 posted on 12/09/2003 8:04:11 AM PST by Sabertooth (Credit where it's due: saveourlicense.com prevented SB60, and the Illegal Alien CDLs... for now.)
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This cannabalism is shocking, SHOCKING I tell you! Psst! Pass the Popcorn!

[UpInArms]

3. thanks for the post

but I cannot in good conscience go to Horowitz's site - he is the most vile disgusting thing to hold a pen in a long time -

I will give this to the thread though -

http://www.taxanalysts.com/www/readingsintaxpolicy.nsf/0/D2630BED55DB182F85256D8E0052F302?OpenDocument

Norquist, after all, is known for spurting such homegrown wisdom as "bipartisanship is another word for date rape." (Norquist reportedly denies making up that line and says he merely borrowed from other conservatives.) But he did say: "We are trying to change the tones in the state capitals -- and turn them toward bitter nastiness and partisanship." He also said: "My goal is to cut government in half in 25 years, to get it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub."

Despite his continuous attack on liberals, big government, public schools, unions, Democrats, and Republicans who vote like Democrats, Grover does not add much to the conversation about tax policy. Sure, he does not like taxes. But that is not much of a credential for discussing fiscal policy. At the NCSL conference, Norquist made the pithy contribution of saying that state governments wanted to overturn the U.S. Constitution's Commerce Clause. He also said that none of this streamlined stuff would be necessary if the states would simply control their spending. And, of course, Norquist took the mandatory shot at Utah Gov. Mike Leavitt (R), a supporter of streamlining, calling him a tax-and-spend politician. Leavitt is such a left-wing wacko that President George W. Bush is going to name him to lead the Environmental Protection Agency.

and

http://www.ff.org/110603-gala.html

"I am proud to honor Mr. Norquist, one of the foremost stalwarts in preserving and defending the Reagan legacy, with our inaugural award," he said. "It's time that his ongoing work fighting taxes, protecting families, and battling the government status quo is acknowledged and honored."

Norquist has served as President of Americans for Tax Reform (ATR), a coalition of taxpayer groups, individuals and businesses committed to lessening the tax burden on all Americans, since he founded the organization in 1985. Every year, ATR asks state and federal office holders and candidates to commit themselves in writing to oppose all tax increases by signing its Taxpayer Protection Pledge. This year, George W. Bush, eight governors, 1,212 state legislators, 217 House members, and 42 Senators have taken the pledge.

To Washington Insiders, many of whom attended last night's gala, Norquist is best known for the weekly Center-Right Coalition Meeting he hosts every Wednesday. The meeting, which is known around town as "the Wednesday Meeting," has operated since 1993 as "the movement's meeting." It is the only opportunity for conservatives and republicans of all stripes to come together to agree or disagree on matters of public policy and politics. The Wednesday Meeting gives conservatives an opportunity to mobilize effectively on important issues by providing a weekly strategy session for: Members of the Administration; think tank leaders; business representatives; political figures; and federal and state activists, candidates, and office holders.

he was one of the prime movers and shakers involved in the destruction of Bill Clinton

[denverbill]

4. I have no qualms about visiting for this article.

The enemy of my enemy is still my enemy in this case, but I sure enjoy watching my enemies kick each other's ass.

Norquist is also the brains behind the K Street project, and is credited with coming up with the idea that Republicans shouldn't even allow lobbyists in the door if the contribute to Democrats.

The man is a menace to democracy.

[ConcernedCanuk]

6. "The man is a menace to democracy" - and so is Junior !!

. . I know, I know,

. . That's a big "Duuuuuuh" !

[bluestateguy]

7. Goober Norquist

At least he opposes the USA Patriot Act!

[nofurylike]

8. tha's simple

he don't want (his prince) to get caught.

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2003 Toby Sackton
http://blogs.salon.com/0001282/2003/10/03.html
In making the case that taxes on a small minority were the moral equivalent of the holocaust, Norquist again showed his “Oklahoma” mentality. He hates our government so much that he is willing to compare taxes to the holocaust, i.e. he has lost all moral compass.

Taxes to him are probably worth bombing a few federal buildings over, if he ever let his true thoughts emerge.

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Krugman took it even further in his interview last week with Terry Gross on NPR's "Fresh Air" (see "Lying About Lying," National Review Online, September 15, 2003). There he updated the book's old-fashioned Nazi metaphor with the post-9/11 version of the same vicious cliché:

The real threat isn't some terrorists who can kill a few people now and then but are not fundamentally a threat to the continuation of America as I know it, but the internal challenge from very powerful domestic political forces who want to do away with America as I know it.

Krugman told Gross that President Bush is only one of the "front men" for this "revolutionary power." According to Krugman, the criminal mastermind behind these "powerful domestic political forces" is Grover Norquist. He's the worse-than-a-terrorist who, Krugman told Gross, sits at the "center of the web." In Sunday's Times Magazine, Krugman described American's coming poverty, illness, and ignorance as "Norquist's vision."
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from faux news,
The President's Patriot Problem
Friday, October 24, 2003
By Frank Gaffney, Jr.

(wondering why norquist would be against the pat act):
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For example, Sami al-Arian (search) allegedly ran Palestinian Islamic Jihad (search) from his post as a professor at South Florida University until his arrest a few months ago. Up to that point, Al-Arian was the president of a very dubious organization, National Coalition to Protect Political Freedoms (search) (NCPPF), which was among the organizational participants in last weekend's anti-Patriot Act conference.

Interestingly, NCPPF gave Grover Norquist an award in 2001 for his work to deny law enforcement the use of "secret evidence," an important tool for prosecuting terrorists in cases involving sensitive, classified information. Norquist has also reportedly used his ties to Karl Rove to assist pro-Islamist members of the Coalition to secure repeated access to White House and other senior Administration officials, including on several occasions, President Bush himself.

The question recurs: What is going on here? Does the president's top political advisor want to see the nation's top law enforcement officer vilified and made less effective? This conclusion is inescapable -- if inexplicable -- as long as Karl Rove continues to allow Grover Norquist simultaneously to play a leading role in assaulting a Patriot Act for which President Bush, not Attorney General Ashcroft, bears ultimate responsibility, while portraying himself as a trusted lieutenant and non-governmental surrogate for the White House political operation and its boss, Karl Rove.

Frank J. Gaffney Jr. held senior positions in the Reagan Defense Department. He is currently president of the Center for Security Policy.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,101169,00.html

[bemildred]

9. I love it when they eat their own.

Thanks for the post.

[OilemFirchen]

10. The great unraveling, Chapter 7ish

While I neither subscribe to, nor summarily reject, the various LIHOP and MIHOP theories, it's entirely plausible that, if there was planning, it was at least partly done during Norquist's weekly meetings.

The luminaries who attended his confabs are a literal who's-who of the neocon apparatchik and there's a potential mountain of dynamite under their feet.

Thank gawd that Gaffney and Norquist are hell-bent on destroying one another. Otherwise the puggies would be able to bury this intercine war. But not with these two super-egos baring their teeth.

The potential fallout could lead to a scandal of monstrous scope.