Dean promises respect for all (radio address)

[cal04]

Democratic National Chairman Howard Dean promised that his party will "respect all Americans" as it prepares to take control of the U.S. Congress.

Dean, delivering the Democrat's Saturday radio address, took credit for the Democrats' strong showing last Tuesday when voters put the party in control of the U.S. House of Representatives, the U.S. Senate and several gubernatorial positions. The party also did well on the state-legislator level.

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"We won in places that some thought we couldn't," Dean said. "We earned the votes of people who may not have voted for a Democrat in a long time ... We also reached out to all Americans, regardless of party or religious affiliation, and we talked about the values and beliefs that we share as Americans."

Dean also went over the Democrats' national agenda and added, "The most important promise we make is this -- we will respect all Americans. We will value your beliefs and your families as we restore America to its position of moral leadership throughout the world."

http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=20061110-052349-8813r

Governor Howard Dean Delivers Democratic Radio Address
http://www.dnc.org/a/2006/11/governor_howard.php

[demwing]

1. Actually, if you listen hard to a recording of the speech, you'll hear Dean say:

"The most important promise we make is this -- we will respect all Americans (not James Carville). We will value your beliefs (not Carville's) and your families (unless they're named Matalin) as we restore America to its position of moral leadership (HA!) throughout the world (fuck Carville)."

[Rose Siding]

4. He disagrees with Carville. Is that disrespectful?

And why wouldn't Dean have restoring moral leadership as a goal?

[demwing]

7. Have You heard what Carville has ben saying about Dean?

Carville wants Dean fired.

And the "HA" bit was sarcasm.

[goforit]

8. Carville is a traitor to the Dems. I saw him speak at an event 2 days after

the 2004 election imploring Dems not to contest any stolen ballots or any possible
stolen elections throughout the country.
Plain and simple, he insulted the Dems saying we were off message back then and the Repugs won square and square!!!!

Bullshit!!!

This ASS works for Cheney and only Cheney pretending to be loyal to the Dems.

I don't trust the ASS and his ugly wife and never will.

[depakid]

41. Carville stand for NOTHING but Carville

Any fool could see that, considering who he's married to.

[Rose Siding]

10. Oh. I didn't catch the sarcasm

Thanks :hi:

I disagree with Carville, too -strongly. I just wanted to note that regardless of that, Dean's remark about respect is sincere.

[Cha]

21. I caught your

:sarcasm: :)

[RevolutionStartsNow]

11. LOL.

Well done. :)

[Spazito]

2. It is great that Dean was chosen to do the Saturday address for

the Democrats! It shows that Carville is out to lunch on his bashing of Dean and the DNC, imo. It is good to see he has been recognized as playing a key part in the recent wins by being chosen to do the address at this time.

Recommended.

[Cha]

23. Yeah, how about that?!

We like our feisty little DNC Chair who said on Jon Stewart's that with the 50 State Strategy it is a "sign of respect to ask people for their vote". And as one of our DUers pointed out..he learned a lot on the primary campaign trail in 2004 about what was needed to help strategy for the Dems as did Kerry & Edwards.

[MODemocrat]

39. It was cool that Jon apologized to Dean

and commended him on his 50 State strategy working well.

I just love Howard Dean.:loveya: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Rose Siding]

3. That was a classy little victory lap

I liked that he layed out the agenda and offered the details as "we will begin by..."

And I like that he's still selling the 50 state strategy. He's paced for a marathon.

[tridim]

5. I wish we had Newt's address after their 1994 "revolution"

I guarantee he didn't talk about making nice with all Americans. It was probably more along the lines of, "We're in charge now, so deal with it Democrats".

[freefall]

29. Here is a description with some quotes of a speech Newt made in January '95.

http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2003/3017newt_undead.html

Note that it is from a Lyndon LaRouche website.

Gingrich should be best remembered for his Jan. 20, 1995 "I am Robespierre" speech at a Republican National Committee gathering in Washington. Celebrating the Republican "Conservative Revolution" sweep of both the House and Senate in the November 1994 mid-term elections, Gingrich openly declared himself a Jacobin: "We need to understand that the scale of revolution that we need is so great and it is so dramatically different.... This is a real revolution," he ranted. "In real revolutions, the defeated faction doesn't tend to convert. It tends to go down fighting.... I mean, if you look at the Bourbons, in France, they didn't rush in and say, 'Oh, please, can I join the revolution?' They remained Bourbons. In fact, most of them learned nothing and forgot nothing, and 50 years later were still locked into a world that was dead.... I am a genuine revolutionary; they are the genuine reactionaries; we are going to change their world and they will do anything to stop us, they will use any tool, there is no grotesquerie, no distortion, no dishonesty, too great for them to come after us.... The future of the human race for at least a century rests on our shoulders. If we fail ... then Bosnia and Rwanda, Haiti and Somalia are the harbingers of a dark and bloody planet."

I'm sure no one was accusing Newt of bipartisanship in 1995.

Peace,

freefall

[Frances]

6. Carville has credibility problems

because of his marriage to Mary Matalin. If this marriage had occurred during the Eisenhower years, I wouldn't have a problem. But Mary Matalin is close to Cheney and that's evil.

[Rose Siding]

15. That's not all; I just read that he was pushing Zell Miller to be the 2000 vp nom.

By choosing former Georgia governor Zell Miller as his running mate, Al Gore could add intellectual brainpower, rhetorical firepower, and lots of plain old populist piss-and-vinegar to this staid election.

<...>

Zell Miller is also a world-class campaigner and orator. His keynote address to the 1992 Democratic convention ranks with Barbara Jordan's and Mario Cuomo's as one of the finest examples of powerful rhetoric and partisan passion.

At a time when politics seems moribund, Zell would bring energy. When people are looking for heroes, Zell's the real thing. And when Democrats need someone who's not afraid to open up a can of whupass on the radical right , they need look no further than Zell Miller.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/11/11/121144/11

...which calls into serious question that whole judgement thing.

[Cha]

24. Yeeeeeeegods!

Thanks for that.

[anotherdrew]

26. OMFG! I had no idea Carville's been such a fool for so long

I really hope no more dems waste their campaign funds paying for this jackass to run them into the ground.

[MODemocrat]

38. I think "It's something about Mary"

and Carville is running scared. He apparently needs to put the heat on Dean and get it off of Mary.

To think I used to like and respect him before he became a wimp.:thumbsdown:

[goforit]

9. Dean......Rock on !!!

[CAcyclist]

12. Where in his speech does he specifically take credit for the success?

I only see where he says "working together we all..." I don't see where he is taking credit for himself, although he definitely deserves that credit.

[Rose Siding]

13. It's a stretch, but it could mean his reference to running in 50 states

That's a strategy he pushed.

[Hieronymus]

25. and his strategy worked.

Don't knock success.:bounce:

[LetsGoMurphys]

14. This is what the American people have been waiting for

not pulling off the Dixie Chicks because they don't agree. People are sick of the divisivness. Maybe we could actually get some positive things done now.

[Straight Shooter]

16. Dean gets it, the way Repubs never seem to get it. United we stand. Divided we fall.

I am very proud of Dean. He deserves honors as an outstanding Democrat, and as a patriotic American. It's great to see him vindicated and happy, even though there is still so much work ahead and whiny obstacles like Carville just make his job that much tougher.

Let's keep Dean and toss Carville.

[ananda]

17. Hurray for Dean!

He's da man!

[ixion]

18. that's great. now I wish the 'other side' would pledge the same

because they clearly have no respect for anyone except their own kind.

[TechBear_Seattle]

19. Will Dr. Dean show respect for Gay and Lesbian Americans?

Will he work for full, legal marriage now, unlike when he ran for President in 2004? (He expressly stated his opposition to equal marriage, preferring instead a Jim Crow, inherently unequal "civil union.") Or will he continue to disinclude us in that "all" he likes to talk about?

[NNadir]

22. I think back on my first Dean meet-up.

Half of the people there were gay and lesbian. This was because Dr. Dean was a pioneer for gay rights.

I think almost all of us here want our gay citizens to enjoy the right to love - including the right to marriage. However it is in no way diminishing our respect for those rights to insist that gay marriage rights is just not the first order of business.

We have an atmosphere that is collapsing, much bitterness toward our country and terrible unjust war, a severely eroded international standing, criminal corruption on a vast scale.

I would have been very angry if I were not able to marry my wife, I concede that. I am angry that you cannot marry your lover as I have married mine. But I really think that your "Me! Me! Me! My issue first!" cry is inappropriate. We have a vast crisis before us, a crisis of a magnitude not seen in this country since our Civil War.

Give me a break. I know we have been waiting a long time to have some hope, but we have all been waiting. You can survive a while longer without being formally married. You don't need to be married to love. I would submit that if you want love you can wait in line for a marriage license. I wouldn't have stopped loving my wife without such a license and I wouldn't have stopped my commitment to her. In fact one of the things I love about her still is her patience, a patience that includes a respect for the fact that her needs do not come before the needs of others.

[TechBear_Seattle]

30. He was a pioneer for gay Jim Crow

He fully supports civil unions. Civil unions are not marriage. Civil unions do not have access to Vermont's more than three centuries of common law dealing with marriage. Civil unions are inherently unequal, a modern-day Jim Crow where straights have their beautiful water fountains and lunch counters and well appointed hotels, while gay people have a rundown shack three miles outside of town with an old, leaky garden hose, a pig trough and a bedbug-infested dirty matress. We should shut up and be satisfied we get anything, though. Right?

Dean has repeatedly stated his opposition to equal marriage. As far as I'm concerned, he has repeatedly stated his opposition to full equal rights for gay people, which makes him my enemy and not my friend.

[cali]

31. While I agree that CUs

are not marriage, CUs do indeed have access to to every right and responsibility of marriage that Vermont offers. Obiviously not true on the federal level, but marriage in MA doesn't give you any fed rights either.

And yeah, not only do I wish you'd shutup, I wish you'd STFU. I'm so tired of whiney one issue people, I could scream. Howard Dean may be your enemy, but as far as I'm concerned, single issue blind ideologues, are mine.

[TechBear_Seattle]

33. No, they do not

It has been a very major point of contention in Vermont that civil unions do not have access to the court rulings and legal precedences which define many of the rights, privileges, protections and responsibilities of marriage. The reason is simple: that body of common law applies to marriage and not to civil unions. That makes civil unions inherently unequal.

And if my "whining" for full civil rights troubles you... too f-ing bad. That is YOUR damned problem, not mine. How sad that wanting full admission before the law annoys you so much. I'd much rather be an ideologue focusing on an issue that is important to me than a narrow minded bigot who sees fundamental human rights as an optional side issue.

[cali]

35. Bzzzt.

Don't go calling me out and saying I'm a bigot; it's a no-no on DU, and you should know it. Can't you craft your slams a little more cleverly to bypass the rules? As I staunchly support gay marriage, how do you figure I'm a bigot? Do try and explain that. I made clear that I'm sick of one issue whiners who are completely myopic. Labeling HD your enemy when he's better than 95% of prominent dems on gay issues is stupid. Calling someone who helped return the dems to a majority your enemy- yeah that makes a fuck of a lot of sense. Attaining marriage for all is a long slog. Calling people who support gay rights, and yes Dean strongly supports issues like gay adoption and wiping out discrimination against gays in housing and employment- dumb.

As for all the problems here in Vermont with Civil Unions denying gays and lesbians rights guaranteed under the constitution (state) to marriage, provide some evidence.

Oh yeah, more distortion. You claim I see the marriage issue as a side issue. BZzzt, yet again. I never said that, so let me make it clear how I view it: I view it as one important issue in a long, long list of important issues.

[Lurking Dem]

32. I fully support civil unions.

For EVERYBODY.

Government should not be in the business of "sacrament".

[TechBear_Seattle]

34. Legal marriage is not a sacrament

Ever since the ratification of the First Amendment, legal marriage in the United States has been entirely a civil matter.

[Lurking Dem]

36. It is still referred to as that

and the government licenses clergy to perform it. It's all bullshit. All marriages should be civil - pay your fee, get your license, walk out the door.

[TechBear_Seattle]

37. All marriages ARE civil already, and have been for more than two centuries

No clergy person or religious blessing or ceremony is required to get married. Religious marriage is an entirely different critter from legal marriage. Religious marriage is completely and totally irrelevant when discussing legal marriage, as religious marriage in the United States does not have any legal standing whatsoever.

[Kurovski]

20. K&R

:kick:

[anotherdrew]

27. Dr. Dean for prez in '08 - seems entirely plausible to me

Clark can be VP

[Borgnine]

28. Dean's much too effective in his current role.

I wanted the man to win in 2004, but I think him losing the nod was a blessing in disguise. He saved the Democratic Party's ass by becoming DNC Chair. The moment he steps down I could see another close-minded beltway insider stepping in. Let's face it: there are still many in the party who think the 50 state plan is ridiculous (despite its overwhelming success last Tuesday).

[MODemocrat]

40. No good deed goes unpunished, Claire Booth Luce quote

She's absolutely right. It happens all the time. Most of this crap is borne out of jealousy or fear.