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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 09:29 AM Original message |
BBC: Red meat link to breast cancers |
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mainegreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
1. here we go!! |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 09:39 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Yup. What isn't linked to breast cancer? nt |
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apnu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 09:55 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. belly button lint (eom) |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 09:40 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Huh? |
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Fierce (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
2. I'm guessing it's more the hormones than the meat |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 11:28 AM Response to Reply #2 |
17. Possible. |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 11:56 AM Response to Reply #2 |
21. it is most likely the types of fats produce by cattle fed on grains. |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 04:01 PM Response to Reply #21 |
43. no doubt a combination of all factors |
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warrens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 05:17 PM Response to Reply #2 |
46. Hormones are probably the main culprit |
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hadrons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
5. watch the RWers blown this off while claiming abortions cause cancers |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
6. might it have something to do with the HORMONES and other crap |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 09:59 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. "...and other crap" |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 11:20 AM Response to Reply #8 |
15. Um excuse me |
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MattSh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 12:43 PM Response to Reply #8 |
25. I'll take a risk with meat anyday..... |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 12:52 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Um, we're not hunters and gatherers any more; we can choose what we eat for benefit of all. |
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MrPrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 02:02 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Thanks! |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 03:18 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. No it does not. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 01:11 PM Response to Reply #27 |
68. Some Surprising Findings About Hunter-Gatherers |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 12:54 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Be my guest- but don't cite "evolution" to me |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 03:52 PM Response to Reply #28 |
41. where do you place growing grain then? |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 04:46 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. Well think about it |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 07:33 PM Response to Reply #45 |
57. I realize you don't really want the answers to your questions but others might. |
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WindRavenX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 05:45 PM Response to Reply #28 |
50. actually, evolution is great evidence that we are eating *FAR*t too much meat |
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Finder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 01:49 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Our ancestors did not eat meat daily... |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 05:24 PM Response to Reply #25 |
47. Eric Schlosser piece in Sierra Magazine may change your mind... |
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WindRavenX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 05:38 PM Response to Reply #25 |
48. The key to remember is that we didn't eat diets based on meat |
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TheLeftyMom (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 02:31 PM Response to Reply #6 |
32. No meat-based feed isn't used in the US and CA |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 07:02 PM Response to Reply #32 |
55. Yes, it is used. The rule is that feed with cattle byproducts in it can't be fed to cattle. |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 07:40 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Not range cattle. |
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GreatCaesarsGhost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
9. it's not the meat, it's the nitrites used to perserve the meat. |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 12:05 PM Response to Reply #9 |
22. Nitrites are only used in PRESERVED meat - |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 12:36 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Nope. SULFITES used in wine. |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 03:47 PM Response to Reply #24 |
40. you are right - my goof |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 05:39 PM Response to Reply #40 |
49. I remember from chemistry class that cheese dogs are the worst |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 07:47 PM Response to Reply #49 |
59. I suspect a life with no pleasure is less healthy than the occasional |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 11:56 PM Response to Reply #59 |
66. I don't "do" hot dogs anymore, more out of knowledge of the unsanitary, |
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Coventina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
10. Finally, a risk factor that is easily eliminated! |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 10:54 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. I haven't eaten either since I was a teenager. |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 03:06 PM Response to Reply #13 |
33. Me either. No meat for me! |
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Auggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 05:50 PM Response to Reply #33 |
52. I'm off red meat too. |
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Finder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
11. Eating that much red meat would lead to all sorts of problems... |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 10:51 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Heart Disease. |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 11:40 AM Response to Reply #12 |
19. "Red meat is a Big factor in the American diet." |
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demo dutch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
14. How can you trust that "hormone-free" meat is actually "hormone free". There's |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 11:27 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. I don't believe them |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 11:38 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Sometimes, You Have to Take a Risk and Trust |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 11:52 AM Response to Reply #14 |
20. Two points. |
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demo dutch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 01:35 PM Response to Reply #20 |
29. Thanks. I do buy local. Still USDA oversees and past some |
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NVMojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
23. Thanks for posting this. I eat red meat ... |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
26. More info: |
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Gelliebeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
35. My grandmother died of breast cancer |
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Generator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 03:32 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Was she old? |
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Gelliebeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 03:46 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. 74 |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
36. This is why I stopped eating heterocyclic amines and iron. |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 03:59 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. ... |
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WindRavenX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 05:46 PM Response to Reply #36 |
51. shifty little creatures, aren't they? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 06:14 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. The nerve of them. |
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Generator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
38. Turkey time! |
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lebkuchen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 04:36 PM Response to Reply #38 |
44. not butterball, though |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
54. Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy was one reason why I |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
56. Meat consumption generally is cancer promoting, as is dairy. |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 07:50 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. Yep the interesting work will be seeing if the vegan lifestyle is |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 08:09 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Goodness, there's already plenty of data on that. |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 11:25 AM Response to Reply #61 |
67. Plant based and vegetarian - |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 02:43 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. What doesn't exist is data on multigenerational CAFO populations. |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 07:38 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. True that. And next is the the moderate middle of the road |
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FernBell (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 08:24 PM Response to Original message |
62. k&r |
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KT2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
63. Estrogen - Estrogen - Estrogen |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 10:40 PM Response to Original message |
64. Hormones are powerful substances. It's the hormones in chicken breasts that |
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Gloria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 11:05 PM Response to Original message |
65. About chickens...no hormones...... |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
71. Funny.. |
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