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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 05:35 PM
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Lieberman: Withdrawal would be a 'very serious mistake'
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Sen. Joe Lieberman, may have agreed to caucus with the Democrats in the next congressional term, but the Connecticut independent made it clear Wednesday he would not hold the party line on a call for phased troop withdrawals.

"Both general Abizaid and Ambassador Satterfield were quite clear and to me convincing, that for congress to order the beginning of a phased redeployment, a withdrawal of American troops from Iraq within the next 4 to 6 months would be a very serious mistake and would endanger ultimate the United States," Lieberman told reporters after the Senate Armed Services Committee hearing on Iraq.

Sen. Carl Levin of Michigan, who is to become the chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee when Democrats take control of the chamber in January, said Tuesday a phased withdrawal is the only way Iraqi forces will take responsibility for their country.

Lieberman's comments are a sign his defeat in the Connecticut Democratic primary has not weakened his hawkish stance on Iraq.

http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/blogs/politicalticker/2006/11/lieberman-withdrawal-would-be-very.html
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 05:36 PM
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1. Lieberman is a mistake. He's a traitor to Country and Party nt
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 05:38 PM
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4. Yep, but we need that traitor.....for now
Levin (Armed Services) and Biden (Foreign Relations) have both said they will investiate the false information used that lead us up to the war. Both men are committed to these investigations which is all we need - with Committee Control we can get the subpeona's we need for the witnesses to finally get the truth out.
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 06:39 PM
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18. We may need to kiss his ass for awhile.
But we don't need to let him think we enjoy it.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 06:43 PM
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19. Things are different this time
Edited on Wed Nov-15-06 06:50 PM by still_one
there are republicans in the Senate who no longer fell obligated to carry water for this administration

At this time I believe it is the MSM who are pushing the idea of him switching parties, and I would not worry about it until it happens. There isn't much that can be done at this time anyone.

But, when 2008 comes around we have a very good chance of even gaining more seats in the Senate, and that would be the time for payback if he were to do such a move




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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 09:12 AM
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54. How many more will die so Limpmann can kiss the Chimp's Butt?
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 08:37 AM
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51. As more American and Iraqi deaths occur
That's a large price to pay to kiss someone's ass?
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 08:18 PM
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30. Could you talk to me like I was six years old
so that I might understand this "need"?

Maybe if you rephrased it, the meaning might be more clear to me.

TIA

P.S. I will admit I am blinded by my utter disgust for this POS.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 02:07 AM
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45. If Joe isn't with us
he caucuses with republicans and tips the balance.

Hence, Levin is no longer Chair of Armed Services, and no phased withdrawal or withdrawal of any sort will happen any time soon.

We need the chairmanships since it's the only way to drive the senate's agenda. After all, who wants Inhofe chairing Environmental Works or Hatch chairing Judicial? I'll take Boxer and Leahy myself.

Hopefully in two years, Dems will pick up more seats and we won't have to kiss Joe's ass. He'll become irrelevant.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 11:24 AM
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55. Isn't it amazing how LIEberman managed to end up in the catbird's seat?
Here we are, with more of a victory than some of us dared hope for: not only the House, but the Senate too.
And then it dawned on me that if LIEberman were to suddenly switch parties (a la Jeffords), we'd be down to a tie with VP Satan as the tie-breaker.
In spite of the fact that Connecticut democrats were apparently FED UP with him, and the rest of the democrats in the U.S. were definitely fed up with him, this asshole has managed to position himself where he has way more power than he deserves.
What a traitor the man is. I second the poster who said Joe should start the "last big push" on Iraq by sending HIS family to fight first!
As long as there are politicians like LIEberman in the democratic party, I will continue to hear non-democrats say "Oh, well, there's really no difference btw the two parties anyway!"
There is no reason for us to stay in Iraq now. So why on earth are we even arguing about it? My theory: some misguided persons in government think that Israel will be harmed if we pull out of Iraq. I don't agree with this. I don't think we did Israel any good by invading in the first place--though it appears that that was one key reason for our invasion, according to the AMERICANS who saw it as a strategy for securing "The Realm" (their "realm"--not ours). Israel really needs to stop listening to the neocons/Likudniks, if it wants to continue to stay on the map.
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jackbourassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 07:17 AM
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50. I thought Lieberman was for withdrawing from Iraq?
He repeatedly said that he was not for "Stay the course" and was working to end the war during the campaign.

The man is a liar.

Like all DLCers, he just says what he has to to get elected. Then he's back to being Republican-lite.
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Election Donating Member (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:54 PM
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60. You have proof that Lieberman has engaged in war against America?
n/t
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 05:36 PM
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2. Joes is still playing the fear card. nt
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Lautremont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 05:38 PM
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3. Neither the sentiment nor the delivery makes sense.
"Both general Abizaid and Ambassador Satterfield were quite clear and to me convincing, that for congress to order the beginning of a phased redeployment, a withdrawal of American troops from Iraq within the next 4 to 6 months would be a very serious mistake and would endanger ultimate the United States."

Is this torturous diction typical of the Liebermeinster?
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 05:41 PM
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7. Guess he's been hanging out with * too long. Now they both speak Manglish (mangled English).
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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 05:41 PM
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5. This "person" should have been defeated. Such a shame.
No, it's worse than that - more and more of our troops will die and more will suffer debilitating injuries because of cruel war hawks like him.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 05:44 PM
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10. Precisely. It's easy for him to say send more troops, no withdrawal, finish the job
WHAT is the job?

I would think he'd recognize by now that he's on the wrong side of history.
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 05:41 PM
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6. Hey Joe send your family over there
to sort it all out and then we can send our troops back in. You make no sacrifice for your crazy love with war. Peace on earth, Kim
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 05:42 PM
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8. General Abizaid needs to resign.
He and General Pace are neocons... Bush and Cheney (and Rummy) kept firing generals until they found two that they liked and who would toe the neocon party line. Getting rid of Rummy was one thing, but the infection runs deep in the Pentagon (Dan Senior is still there, I believe). We need to change from top to bottom... and it starts with the Commander in Chief.

We won't get an Iraq withdrawal until we have impeachment.
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Nightjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 05:44 PM
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9. Son of a bitch, motherf*******!!!
You have the blood of children, woman and men on your hands and so do half of the Ct voters.

F****** BASTARD!!!
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 09:27 PM
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32. That should be plural:
F****** BASTARDS! All the Connecticut voters who supported this chunk of puke ought to be forced to go fight the war he loves so much.
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 11:30 PM
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40. well said
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 05:51 PM
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11. Would you bet your life on that Joe?
How about this. Why don't you go over to the Green Zone and help us win this war. You are a smart man who knows how important it is to win. Why not lead by example? Get over there Joe and prove that the only thing missing is competent people, like yourself, putting us on the right track and winning this war. Because you've gambled 3000 American lives and a Trillion dollars so far, enabling this administration to defeat a defanged dictator.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 05:55 PM
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12. And we should listen to that flacid,
Edited on Wed Nov-15-06 05:56 PM by zidzi
flabby, sack of lyin' shit.. because?

That's another reason I wanted him to pack it in..so we wouldn't have to read those shitfaced quotes of his on DU, anymore.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 05:56 PM
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Lieberman is a Republican neocon in sheep's clothing
I don't see his son enlisting in the military and going off to war. The entire Lieberman family are cowards and chicken hawks, more suited as friends of Sean Hannity or Bill O'Reilly than as friends of Harry Reid.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 05:56 PM
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13. Lieberman is a Republican neocon in sheep's clothing
I don't see his son enlisting in the military and going off to war. The entire Lieberman family are cowards and chicken hawks, more suited as friends of Sean Hannity or Bill O'Reilly than as friends of Harry Reid.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 05:56 PM
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14. *yawn*
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 06:01 PM
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15. What a putz,
He should just convert and get it over with.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 02:09 AM
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47. Leaving Dems as the minority party in the senate
having no real power to drive the senate's agenda.

At this point, we need Joe on our side. Hopefully we can tell him to scew himself in two years, assuming we pick up seats in '08.
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Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 06:20 PM
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16. What a Shock Lil' Joe Would Say That?!
NOT!
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 06:21 PM
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17. So.... Does Job Take Money from the Military Industrial Complex?
Can we find out? I seriously want this piece of shit exposed!
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 06:45 PM
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20. withdrawal
That is what I told her last night.................................
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 06:53 PM
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21. The Albatross speaks.
That useless weight around the neck of the Democratic Party.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 06:53 PM
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22. we might need him -- but i don't think we're gonna like
what we get from him.

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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 07:06 PM
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27. even if we do 'need' him, he won't be there. he ain't got no ones back but his own
I'm so sick of this, this asshole basically wastes every gain we made in the election, he's going to sit there and tow the republican line, day in day out, and anytime he doesn't get his way, he's just going to make a call and say, I'm thinking I need to change parties again, and boom... he'll get his way again. Everything else is now beholden to this one ass-whipe of a man. Fuck Joe Lieberman, may he burn in hell with the rest of the war supporting murderers.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 07:34 PM
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28. that seems to be the landscape.
it's not like he isn't making it clear what he's about.

and they still gave him the chair of homeland security.

oh well.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 06:54 PM
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23. Lieberman really should withdraw, himself. No time like the present, either. n/t
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 06:59 PM
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24. Fuck you.
Go fight then, chickenhawk.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 06:59 PM
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25. I guess that's what the
repubs in Connecticut wanted to hear joe say? And those dems? The indies?
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 07:03 PM
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26. send ytour own children to die LIEberman you piece of shit
this dog needs to be removed from our caucus ASAP

Somehow a way around this piece of human garbage must be found.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 07:45 PM
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29. If asshole Bush was chasing OBL, Iraq NEVER would have happened!! - don't
you just feel so much safer now that Saddam will be hung?!!
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 08:24 PM
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31. Not enough Iraqis dead yet? Not enough Americans? Brits?
How many corpses is enough?
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 09:35 PM
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33. How can we possibly buttress Israel if we don't crush all Arabs?
Don't make no sense to me.

Divided loyalties are the issue.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 02:14 AM
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49. What BS!
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 08:43 AM
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52. Why is it BS?
Just an honest question.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:51 PM
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59. It's the same old tired "dual agency" meme.
Besides, the US doesn't need to destroy all Arabs to 'buttress' Israel; that's just absurd.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 09:55 PM
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34. because... the terrorists will all get on rafts and paddle to New York?
idiot.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 10:24 PM
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35. Ahhh... Lieberman working for the good of America.
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kerstin Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 10:59 PM
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36. A caller to the Thom Hartmann show
brought up the possibility that Lieberman could be recalled if enough Connecticut citizens signed a petition to force a vote. :-)
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 02:13 AM
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48. It's not clear how recall elections apply to federal elections
Now, don't get me wrong, I'd love for the people of CT to have that option if he bolts the Dem party... ...
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 12:02 PM
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57. It is a state by state issue. We can recall in AZ, don't know about CT.
But I'm not sure it will work anyway, look at who elected that traitor, it wasn't liberals, it was the re:puke:s and corporatists.
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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 11:06 PM
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37. Hey Joementum...
Your daddy's failure of "withdrawal" was the real fucking mistake. Asshole.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 11:18 PM
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38. It may not matter in January. Some Republicans will begin voting against the war
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primavera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 11:24 PM
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39. That sure didn't take long
I knew it was only a matter of time before Lieberpuke began to flex his newly acquired muscle as the tie-breaker senator to hold one or both parties hostage to his demands, but damn, the new Congress hasn't even convened yet.
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against all enemies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 11:49 PM
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41. So more kids are going to have to die because Democrats have to
kiss Lieberman's ass? Screw that - I would rather be in the minority.
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 11:52 PM
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42. Lieberworm
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Moloch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 12:10 AM
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43. Damkira: Re-electing lieberman was a 'very serious mistake'
nt
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aaronbees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:20 AM
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44. Put on a cap on it, Joe
It's time to get out.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 02:09 AM
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46. wont need him on that vote, i bet n/t
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 09:05 AM
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53. Does he think the insurgents will drive their Toyota pickups across the Atlantic?
C'mon, Joe. Get with it.
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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 11:40 AM
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56. All King George's men and all King Georges horses...
W is so fucking good at breaking stuff.

Staying is a mistake, leaving is a mistake, being there is a mistake. No matter what we do we will have made the Middle East more dangerous perhaps for a hundred years to come.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 12:55 PM
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58. FUCK that coward !
He will send our brothers and sisters to DIE but he never wore a uniform himself!

Kansas I can understand. WTF is wrong with Connecticut, sending this piece of garbage back to the Senate?
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 02:26 PM
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61. Wrong again, Joe, just like you were so very, very wrong to push for
the invasion of Iraq in the first place.

Fool us once, shame on you...you ain't gonna fool us twice.

Whatever your secret agenda is, it stinks so bad that most Americans can smell it everywhere from coast to coast
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 07:51 PM
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62. Listening to Lieberman would be a very serious mistake. nt
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