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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 11:58 AM
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Man arrested with $78,000, nuclear info
Edited on Thu Nov-16-06 12:18 PM by IDemo
Court records say suspect was carrying cash, data about nukes and cyanide

Updated: 48 minutes ago

DETROIT - A man was arrested at Detroit Metropolitan Airport after officials say they found him carrying more than $78,000 in cash and a laptop computer containing information about nuclear materials and cyanide.

Sisayehiticha Dinssa, an unemployed U.S. citizen, was arrested Tuesday after a dog caught the scent of narcotics on cash he was carrying, according to an affidavit filed in court.

When agents asked him if he had any cash to declare, he said he had $18,000, authorities said. But when agents checked his luggage, they found an additional $59,000. When they scrolled through his laptop, they said they found the mysterious files.

At a court hearing Wednesday, Dinssa was ordered held in custody until at least until Monday at the request of prosecutors.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13435638/
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Target_For_Exterm Donating Member (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 12:03 PM
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1. Bush's Democratic election win recovery plan?
Given the lax security at Los Alamos and the recent findings of nuclear material in the hands of a drug dealer, this doesn't surprise me.

Sometimes I think Bush wants the US to be hit by a nuke.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 12:10 PM
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2. This guy had been to Nigeria and Amsterdam prior to his return to the US
He is definitely involved in the narcotics trade-got the stuff in Nigeria, sold it in Amsterdam, and was bringing the money back to Phoenix.

On top of that, he had cyanide and nuclear info. I'll bet they got someone who is seriously connected with this one-I don't buy into the argument that all drug dealing supports terrorism (domesticly grown marijuana, for example, is probably not connected to terrorism) but the illegal narcotics trade does. They grow opium poppies in Nigeria, and Amsterdam is the drug capital of the world.
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Katzenjammer Donating Member (541 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:56 PM
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7. If he bought in Nigeria and sold in 'dam, exactly what crime did he commit in the US?
Isn't there something screwed up about the idea that if the US ruling class doesn't like something, then nobody is allowed to do it anywhere in the world?
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 02:59 PM
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10. he didn't sell anything in AMS, this person doesn't understand routing
the suspect flew to DTW via AMS because AMS is the huge KLM/NWA hub and that's how they route you to get from africa to the united states -- very, very many of these flights from europe, esp. AMS, are then routed through the huge NWA terminal in detroit

dollars to donuts the dude is a northwest airlines or klm flyer, the stop in AMS is a stop we all end up being forced to make flying usa to africa and back

sheesh

we've known for almost two decades that over 90 percent of usa currency is contaminated with trace amounts of cocaine, this is why large amounts of usa currency will set up the drug dog

i need better evidence than this that the dude is a bad guy, WAY better evidence

to concoct an entire drug-selling scenario based on the poor man being routed through amsterdam, as was i guarantee everybody else on his flight lagos to united states, is just ridiculous and unfair and not worthy of DU

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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 03:11 PM
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12. He didn't declare the cash hidden in his luggage
You have to declare anything over 10K.

That's the rule. Break it and you are subject to consequences. Anyone traveling across international borders should understand that these kinds of laws should not be treated like parking or jaywalking ordinances.

IMO, someone carrying 79 large and lying about it to security cops is worth checking into a bit further.

Peace.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 04:26 PM
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22. right that part is absolutely an offense
there is plenty of signage at DTW that tells you that you have to declare more than $10K worth of currency

to take the leap that the cash is proceeds from drugs because the dude flew through AMS -- the same hub he would have been routed through if he'd had 79 cents in cash on him -- is a pretty good leap though

all we know at the moment is that the dude had more cash than most people seem to think a person of his ethnic background should have

hardly proof of either terrorism or drug smuggling

the cash can be seized for the technical violation w.out completely smearing the guy and trying to destroy his life on top of it


if and when they have proof of any terror or drug wrong doing, get back to me

at the moment the dude is dead to rights for currency smuggling, surely that's bad enough to detain him without accusing him of being a nuclear spy or a drug distributor

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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 03:03 PM
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11. i take it you have never flown to united states from africa
it's always nice to refrain from speculating when you have no idea of what you are talking about

flights from africa are routed through amsterdam and then through detroit before allowing you to continue to your final destination in the usa because AMS and DTW are the gee dee hubs!!!!!!!!! for KLM and NWA


sheesh!

got nothing to do w. any gee dee drugs, the poor fool would have probably loved to fly directly from lagos to phoenix but, guess what, there is no such plane, there is no such routing, you have got to fly your happy ass halfway around the planet to get where you want to go thanks to modern "hub" system
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 12:40 PM
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3. Did he just download the info from the White House website?
This guy sure sounds shady but it comforts me little to know that he will be disappeared into the new "system" -citizen or not.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 12:47 PM
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4. Could be that he'll be in Gitmo tonight
despite him being a US citizen and all. I'm sure they'll have a confession soon.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 12:49 PM
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5. What kind of info?
Because info about cyanide isn't the least bit secret, and I doubt the nuke info is either.
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Crim_n al Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:05 PM
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6. Apricot kernals in his pocket and a link in his browser's history
to the U.S. Government site we've heard so much about lately?

A health-food snack from Pakistan that contains dangerous levels of cyanide has been ordered removed from health-food stores in New York, the State Department of Agriculture and Markets announced yesterday.

"Oh boy, that's high; my goodness, that's very toxic," said Dr. Gilbert Stoewsand, a food science and technology professor at Cornell University, when told how much cyanide was found during the Agriculture Department's laboratory tests of the product, Himalayan Harvest Apricot Kernels Naturally Bitter.

"At best, it is twice as high as the minimal lethal dose for an adult," Dr. Stoewsand said, adding that the danger would be even greater for a child.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&res=9F0CE2D71630F935A15750C0A965958260


When will people realise that all we hear from government authorities is distortions, propaganda and lies?
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 03:23 PM
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14. Considering the cyanide info was on his computer and not contained
in the molecules of apricot kernels jiggling around in his pocket, I think I'll wait for more information before I jump to his defense with a grand hypothesis. Besides, he's being charged with not declaring his cash, not for carrying apricot kernels.
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Crim_n al Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 03:56 PM
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19. Having linked to the site on apricot kernals,
I now have data on my computer about cyanide too.

And not everyone carrying a large amount of undeclared money is a terrorist.

Sorry, but I come from Australia, and here we are still considered innocent until proven guilty.
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 05:59 PM
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26. Not declaring cash at customs is a crime. He will be
released, or held for trial. I'm also sure in Australia they don't just let people, who've been charged with crimes, go free based on wild hypotheticals before the evidence has been reviewed and a trial date been set.
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Crim_n al Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 01:24 PM
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27. Sure it is. I'm talking to the people
who are already labelling him a terrorist.
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 04:14 PM
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21. Apricot Kernals.
Oh fucking brother. :eyes: That's because Apricot Kernals are known to cure Cancer
and Big Pharma doesn't like the competition.

How I wish I was in Australia!:(
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Crim_n al Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 04:39 PM
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24. It would be a better place to be if we were not so avidly
imitating all the worst features of America. ;)

Most marzipan, btw, is made of bitter apricot kernels.
And the chocolate around it helps lower your blood pressure. :party:
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 02:09 PM
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8. Ship him off to Gitmo indefinitely
"The defense rests, your honor."

Isn't that how the court system rolls nowadays? Sensational media story, guy with a funny-sounding name in custody, and whoosh! he's gone?
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 02:31 PM
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9. This could get interesting if the allegations are true.
I'm going to guess that he's Ethiopian or Somali. Most Google hits for the surname seem to point to Oromiya state in Ethiopia; Addis Ababa's in that state, but it's not far from ethnically Somali areas.
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 03:16 PM
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13. Maybe he is the rich minister trying to deliver the
money to keep safe that always pops up on the phishing scams
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 03:27 PM
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15. that was my first thought, too
They caught the Nigerian scammer!!
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Mr. Mojo Risin Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 03:31 PM
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16. Say goodbye to your fingernails dude!
How bout a swim? Blindfolded and tied down.
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armodem08 Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 03:45 PM
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17. The police always seize cash because of drug residue
But the problem with that is that like 80-90% of cash has drug residue on it..

http://www.jointogether.org/news/headlines/inthenews/2000/judge-kills-cash-seizure-on.html
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 04:41 PM
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25. it's well over 90 percent contaminated w. residue per ronald siegal
Edited on Thu Nov-16-06 04:42 PM by pitohui
the police don't have to charge you with anything or prove you are guilty of any crime, they are charging the cash (forfeiture law is more like maritime law than the criminal or civil proceedings most of us are familiar with) -- so they are highly motivated to declare the cash "guilty" of something even if they know you are not

i do know of people now who have successfully regained their money but you need to get an attorney who is knowledgeable about this type of law, most aren't

certainly when crossing international boundaries, you need to declare your cash appropriate and fill out the correct paperwork, no use giving these folks an excuse to grab the money

let me ask people this, do they seriously think that this person could have just bought himself a money order or otherwise used the banking system to get his cash from nigeria to the united states, nope, he could have perfectly legal cash from selling a home or other property and have no way to get it back to usa except by carrying cash, considering the high regard we hold for the nigerian banking system

unfortunately he put himself in the wrong when he tried to conceal the cash, instead of declaring it, and now he's screwed

it is possible that he will get back some of the cash, if he is able to prove a legal source, but i think it is more likely that he will forfeit the cash

again, if there is in fact an illegal source, i want more than a drug dog's word for it, i know a man who was informed on by such a dog and the man did ultimately regain his cash (minus a $4K civil fine of some sort) once he proved the legal source of the cash

drug dogs respond to signals and also the unconconscious wishes of their handlers, they are far from infallible, perhaps their noses are too sensitive -- like those tests that detect tiny little traces of allergy pill metabolites and conclude you must be doing meth! in any case, i know for a fact that they can be wrong



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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 03:55 PM
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18. Could it cost that much to get your name changed?
I doubt it.
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Crim_n al Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 04:02 PM
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20. He tried that, but was not specific enough
about what he was getting it changed to.
He was in such a tizz worrying about what would happen here
if he arrived as Bloeupp Bhooshenbharney.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 04:33 PM
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23. That sounds kind of suspicious. He should have prefixed it with "Mc"
Edited on Thu Nov-16-06 04:33 PM by Lastlaughin08
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