Nicaraguan President Signs Abortion Ban

[Meeker Morgan]

AP story
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20061118/D8LFDL0O0.html

MANAGUA, Nicaragua (AP) - President Enrique Bolanos signed a bill Friday banning abortion in all cases - including when a woman's life is endangered - despite opposition from doctors, women's rights groups and diplomats.

Presidential spokesman Lindolfo Mojarretz told The Associated Press that Bolanos signed the bill Friday and that it will become law when it appears in the official register on Saturday.

Previously, Nicaragua allowed abortions if three doctors certified that the woman's health was at risk. The law signed Friday eliminates that century-old exception.

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President-elect Daniel Ortega, who once favored abortion rights, changed his stance and supported the law after strongly embracing Roman Catholicism and winning over voters in a country with a conservative religious tradition.

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Daniel Ortega who took back Nicaragua for the left? That one?

[Straight Shooter]

1. So the GOP is effectively in religious alliance with Daniel Ortega.

Iran-Contra has many bastard children.

[Demeter]

2. This Is Disheartening

The Catholic Church has a lot to answer for in its treatment of women.

Ortega must be suffering brain damage.

[IntiRaymi]

3. The fat bastards in robes have accomplished this.

Ratzinger probably handed this law down.

[Judi Lynn]

4. It'll be a surprise if this old fart doesn't do even more damage before leaving, in his

waning days as the nasty pResident of Nicaragua. It's a shame the conservative wave has been able to organize the Catholics in Latin America well enough to start shoving their abortion demands down their throats, as well.

http://www.presidencia.gob.ni/presidencia/files_index/secretaria/Notas%20de%20Prensa/Presidente/2003/FOTOS/noviembre/Bush%20Bolanos_condecoracion,%2006nov.jpg

These _{Bush creeps} have the old puppet Bolaños surrounded, don't they?

[wwmills551]

5. Ortega and Chavez both agree with Republicans on

A women's right to choose. But Chavez is worse.

[Mika]

6. Links please.

Thanks.

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Here's some that I found,

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/5/10/232718.shtml

Pope Benedict XVI told Hugo Chavez on Thursday that he was very concerned about moves to limit the Catholic Church's influence in Venezuela, including proposals to change anti-abortion rules, the Vatican said.

http://pewforum.org/docs/?DocID=167

A legal abortion requires the written consent of the woman or her husband or her legal representative. In 2005, some political supporters of President Hugo Chavez unsuccessfully lobbied for the legalization of abortion in cases of rape or incest.

[wwmills551]

8. There is a lot of info on this.

Here is a link. http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?ItemID=11079

[Mika]

10. From your own link

Chavez deserves credit for the things he's done to improve the lives of poor people and curb the abuses of capitalism in Venezuela.

He has pushed economic initiatives for women and has recognized the financial contribution of women's unpaid labor in the home. Recently, he initiated and signed a bill that would compensate women for their unpaid housework, something that socialist feminists have been fighting for several decades.

None of this, however, erases the fact that he has been criticized for his authoritarian leadership, including by the Venezuelan women who are pushing him to make good on his promises.

Critics point out his strong anti-abortion stance. He even attempted to put an anti-abortion amendment in the constitution, but strong resistance forced him to back off.

Critics point out many false things about many things regarding Chavez.


The links I posted suggest just the opposite.

[wwmills551]

12. I provided you with a link that indicates that Chavez

wanted to place an anti-abortion amendment into the Venezuelan constitution. He is not a friend to women. His Buddies in Iran are not friend's to women either. Do you need a link on that one also?

[Mika]

15. Your slanted article link proves no such thing.

I do see, in several articles, that Mr Chavez is no friend of anti abortion extremists..


http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F40F11FB3B540C7A8DDDAB0994D1494D81&n=Top%2fReference%2fTimes%20Topics%2fSubjects%2fA%2fAbortion

Pres Hugh Chavez engages in war of words with Venezuela's Roman Catholic hierarchy; immediate cause of tension is new voter-approved Constitution, which does not assert rights of the unborn as clearly and completely as church leaders would like and which describes education as primarily a responsibility of the state

[otherlander]

19. Revolutionaries like propaganda, too.

[Rose Siding]

11. The right wing slant on that article is amusing.

Because he doesn't get in Iran's face and paint an entire country as evil he's anti-choice? That's ridiculous!

Besides, if Chavez is the ruthless dictator that the right portrays him to be, then why did he listen to opposition from his people on this issue? Why didn't he oppress them with his wishes?-

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Critics point out his strong anti-abortion stance. He even attempted to put an anti-abortion amendment in the constitution, but strong resistance forced him to back off. And among feminists, the issue of paying women for housework is not clear-cut. While some argue that it will help raise women out of poverty, others believe that it will further institutionalize women's place in domestic servitude.

[wwmills551]

17. I get it, You like Chavez

That does not make him pro choice, He is not. If he ran the world, abortion would be a crime. I am sure he is a great guy in many other ways. He just does not believe a woman should have the right to choose what to do with her own body. Neither does Ortega.

[Mika]

18. I've never met him.

:shrug:

But, I do like some of the things he's done.

[IntiRaymi]

21. I get it, you don't like Chavez.

But that doesn't make him a boogieman. He has been a positive influence in the lives of the real venezuelans.

[Judi Lynn]

9. Truly! I've never seen any articles mentioning Chavez's chauvinist streak. n/t

[Rose Siding]

7. That's 2 dead women for every 100 pregancies from ectopic ones ALONE

It's totally barbaric.

[sarcasmo]

13. Finally a place for the Evangelicals to move too.

[Judi Lynn]

14. There is resistance to this ban in Nicaragua:Nicaragua's Abortion Ban Faces Legal Blockade

Nicaragua's Abortion Ban Faces Legal Blockade
Run Date: 11/17/06
By Lorraine Orlandi
WeNews correspondent

Nicaragua faces the imminent implementation of an abortion ban that makes no exception for the life of a woman. As concern spreads about its fatal effects for low-income women in particular, rights groups and others vow a legal challenge.

MANAGUA, Nicaragua (WOMENSENEWS)--After 19-year-old Jazmina Bojorge bled to death in early November at a public hospital in the Nicaraguan capital due to complications from pregnancy, her family appeared on local television and tearfully accused doctors of delaying her treatment for fear of being prosecuted under the nation's abortion ban.

Bojorge, five months pregnant, arrived at the hospital with painful, premature contractions. After staying the night, she was sent to a different medical center for an ultrasound because hospital equipment was inadequate. Doctors tried to stop the contractions, but they were unsuccessful and the fetus died. Efforts to induce labor to expel the fetus failed and Bojorge went into shock. Her placenta had separated from the uterine wall and her uterus filled with blood. She died two days after arriving at the hospital.

It was Bojorge's second pregnancy. She left a young son behind.

While authorities investigate her death, her story has heightened concerns about the impact of a new abortion ban that would outlaw so-called therapeutic abortions in cases in which the woman's life is at risk. The ban was approved by lawmakers in October and is expected to be signed into law today.
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http://www.womensenews.org/article.cfm/dyn/aid/2963/context/archive

[Mika]

16. I guess that the Catholic church wanted her son to be motherless.

What a heartbreaking story.

F-ing fanatics. :mad:

[IntiRaymi]

22. The catholic church wants people poor and stupid.

It keeps the flock obedient. Breaking the cycle of poverty starts with family planning.

[piedmont]

20. Nicaragua says to women: "Fuck you!"

wow. just wow.

[arcos]

23. That same Ortega, who betrayed all of what he once stood for...

Just to become President again.

It's amazing how the thirst for power can corrupt people.

[donsu]

24. another man afraid of women - hope Nicaraguaian women fight back

for their right to choose.

[Betty]

25. So if the baby will die anyways

because the mother will be forced to die, they are OK with that. Better to kill the mother too. How is this pro life???????

[wuushew]

26. Probably because Catholicism is only interested in the soul

Christianity is concerned with the concept of soul harvesting, not population sustainability nor quality of life. Every mother that dies in childbirth is another soul to save. If the baby manages to breath and later dies also it is a bonus point for the church. Physical biological risk is secondary next to the maximum potential catholic production (as measured in souls not viable real world existence).


Secularist will never be able to reach a middle ground of debate because the existence the soul cannot not be proven.

[Meeker Morgan]

27. Pro-life?

The stuff of USA political rhetoric.

This Latin-American business is coming straight from the Vatican and completely bypassing USA fundies (though doubtless they approve).