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Newsjock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 03:00 AM Original message |
NYT: To crack down on DUIs, MADD urges alcohol sensors in cars |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 03:02 AM Response to Original message |
1. Something like this is already used for repeat offenders (at least in my state) |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 10:58 AM Response to Reply #1 |
27. In Colorado, first time offenders have the option of losing |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 03:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
44. So much for designated drivers. The drunks in your car will |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 03:14 AM Response to Original message |
2. This is going to be overtaked by events |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 03:58 AM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Damn good points... |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 04:07 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Thanks. I think you and I were seperated at birth... |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 04:20 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Nice... |
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lostnfound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 05:36 AM Response to Reply #2 |
13. I was going to say that it would probably save gas, through better driving, |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 01:45 PM Response to Reply #13 |
50. Well, if is electric, it's not a big deal |
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4dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 07:21 AM Response to Reply #2 |
16. In 20 years we won't be driving too many cars |
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BreweryYardRat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 10:26 AM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Biodiesel, hydrogen, electric, etc... |
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4dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 12:12 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. Bow to the technology god!! |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 02:26 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. DOOM! DOOM! DOOM! You PO Doomers need to lighten up. |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 02:15 PM Response to Reply #16 |
37. Well, that's a seperate issue to be resolved |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 02:30 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Don't try arguing with 4dsc, he is so convinced that Peak Oil will end civilization that... |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 03:50 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. Well, he has probable cause |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 05:38 PM Response to Reply #40 |
56. There is actual proof that civilization's end |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 02:13 PM Response to Reply #2 |
36. Saw a commercial for a Lexus |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 02:26 PM Response to Reply #2 |
39. That sounds awesome. |
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Strawman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 03:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
53. That kinda scares me |
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Dr.Phool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 03:24 AM Response to Original message |
3. I think we should have lunatic sensors on all MADD members. |
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Kiouni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 03:29 AM Response to Original message |
4. THe bio sensor takes 60 sec. |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 03:30 AM Response to Original message |
5. when are MADD going to come out against |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 07:07 AM Response to Reply #5 |
15. Not to mention elderly drivers whose physical reflexes are shot. |
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MrPrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 10:03 AM Response to Reply #5 |
19. MADD is a Prohibitionist |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 12:26 PM Response to Reply #5 |
30. Drunks Against Mothers Driving While Distracted by Yapping at their Kids! |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 12:30 PM Response to Reply #5 |
31. How about driving with the family dog in the drivers lap. |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 03:32 AM Response to Original message |
6. How many legit products have alcohol as an ingredient,, |
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Kiouni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 04:31 AM Response to Reply #6 |
12. More importantly |
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longship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 03:43 AM Response to Original message |
7. This is utter rubbish. |
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Trillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 03:54 AM Response to Original message |
8. Hey, that's gonna make that company lots of money. |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 06:51 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. What if the car is fueled by ethanol? |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 01:18 PM Response to Reply #8 |
33. " Think of "the children." yes draft them |
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 08:44 AM Response to Original message |
17. The thing that a lot of people don't know about MADD: |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 09:40 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. WCTU? ETOH? |
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mcscajun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 10:28 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. ETOH = Ethyl Alcohol |
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mcscajun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 10:32 AM Response to Reply #18 |
24. WCTU = Woman's Christian Temperance Union |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 12:08 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. That group is still around? |
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mcscajun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 10:02 AM Response to Reply #28 |
48. Nope, they're still around. |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 10:08 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. They are domestic thugs |
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mcscajun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 10:36 AM Response to Reply #20 |
25. Do you have a link to back that up? |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 10:56 AM Response to Reply #17 |
26. Can you provide me with sources? |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 12:32 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. It's Not Difficult |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:20 PM Response to Reply #17 |
47. Thanks for the information. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 09:36 PM Response to Reply #17 |
59. if you believe alcoholfacts.org, anyhow |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 09:56 PM Response to Reply #17 |
60. the poor old WCTU ... that foremother of modern feminism |
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EnviroBat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
23. DAMM... |
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mitchleary (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
34. MADD can go to HELL |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 02:42 PM Response to Reply #34 |
43. Great point! I never understood why this was not a bigger issue |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 10:26 AM Response to Reply #43 |
49. Good question. Why is consensual sex between adults so |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
35. MADD was instrumental in running off Judge Ed Donaldson here |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
41. MADD are a much of nanny-statist culture warriors, they can go fuck themselves. |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 06:02 PM Response to Reply #41 |
57. Perfect Description! |
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Beacho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
42. what part of 'prior restraint' don't these control freaks not understand? |
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Porcupine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
46. Lets install them on the vehicles of officeholders FIRST |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
51. Why wouldn't the drunk ask a sober person to start the car? |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
52. MADD's true goal is to ban alcohol, Prohibition-style. |
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williesgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
54. I'm against driving w/any drinks, but this is BULLSHIT. How about red meat etc, where do we stop? |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
55. MADD & SADD are nuts |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
58. I have ZERO respect for drunk drivers |
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