College students oppose military draft, but doubt its passage

[sabra]

http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/newssentinel/news/local/16061103.htm

College students oppose military draft, but doubt its passage
Associated Press

CHICAGO - Many college students see the latest flirtation with a military draft more as political game-playing than a serious threat.

They welcome a discussion on military issues and the war in Iraq but, regardless of their political leanings, view a draft as outdated and unrealistic.

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Nora Vail, a junior at DePaul University in Chicago, sees some merit in having a discussion about military service.

It's not "the Bush twins going off to war," she says. "It's going to be the poor kids growing up in the South or the inner city who go off to war."

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"What would I do if I was drafted? I think I probably wouldn't be the best of soldier. I'm not sure other soldiers would want to depend on me," says Steven Haag, a 21-year-old senior at Emory University in Atlanta, who's majoring in classics and history. The editor of the Emory Political Review, he identifies himself as a Republican.

[twilight_sailing]

1. Wait till you meet your Drill Sargeant

"What would I do if I was drafted? I think I probably wouldn't be the best of soldier. I'm not sure other soldiers would want to depend on me," says Steven Haag, a 21-year-old senior at Emory University in Atlanta, who's majoring in classics and history. The editor of the Emory Political Review, he identifies himself as a Republican.

[0rganism]

9. You know, I bet a lot of guys in the D-Day invasion thought the same thing

"Dang, man, I'm not the best soldier, and I'm not sure other soldiers would want to depend on me, but here I am, trying not to upchuck my lousy breakfast in a leaky-ass landing boat on my way to die on a nazi-occupied beachhead in Normandy. Wow. War really sucks."

[twilight_sailing]

10. Yep ;)

This may sound like the worst of cliches but in this case it's true. Trust me.

If the Army could make a soldier out of me, they can make one out of anybody.

[MADem]

2. Jesus, by their chickenhawk stances we shall know them. The Repiglican quoted in the OP

and this assclown are real "rah, rah" cheerleaders...enthused from the SIDELINES, aren't they?

Kyle Massenburg, a senior at the College of Charleston in South Carolina, agrees that a disproportionate number of low-income and minority students enter the military. He saw many of his high school peers do so because they wanted to pay for school or needed a job.

"It's a tough dilemma," says Massenburg, who's 21 and a corporate communications major.

But he and others say they'd be more motivated to support a draft if they saw a better reason for fighting.

"We are not at war with a tangible enemy," he says. "Even though I consider myself a conservative, I do not believe that people should be forced to serve in the military for an unstable cause."

Translation: It's a good enough war for "someone else"...just not ME. It's too HARD for "me" to fight that "intangible enemy" so I don't want to get involved. Let those unwashed "low income, minority" fuckers do it.... It's a "dilemma" alright, only not one I want to touch with a ten foot pole.

Sheesh!!! Why didn't he save time and just say "Cluck, cluck, cluck, war, war, war, cluck, cluck, cluck!!"

[BOSSHOG]

4. Don't worry steve haag

Your drill sergeant will make you a good soldier. And if you get killed in Iraq Mommy and Daddy will be so proud and they will get a nice flag.

[Guaranteed]

6. Wow. That is EXACTLY why we need some kind of compulsory service.

What a jerk that guy is.

[JVS]

3. I wonder if the Green Party would pull a stunt on such a serious matter?

[Guaranteed]

5. It's GOING to be? Lady, you're an idiot.

Who do you think is fighting our wars almost exclusively at this point?

[Rose Siding]

8. An idiot? Huh. And I thought her point was thoughtful and sincere.

If she isn't aware of the current volunteer military's socio-economic make-up yet, maybe the discussion that's been opened up about the draft -since she's willing to involve herself in it- will educate her. Or, we could just call her names.

[Demeter]

7. College KIds: You Bet Your LIfe!

Either you start voting for people who care about you, and don't want war, or you get to live the great lottery first hand.

Any college kid who votes GOP is too stupid to live, IMO.

[NVMojo]

11. Students See Little Chance of Draft

CHICAGO (AP) - Many college students see the latest flirtation with a military draft more as political game-playing than a serious threat.

They welcome a discussion on military issues and the war in Iraq but, regardless of their political leanings, view a draft as outdated and unrealistic.

Their comments came Monday as U.S. Rep Charles Rangel - a New York Democrat who's also the incoming chair of the House Ways and Means Committee - says he will introduce legislation next year that would reinstate the draft and require young Americans to register after turning 18. Rangel sees his idea as a way to deter politicians from launching wars.

Nora Vail, a junior at DePaul University in Chicago, sees some merit in having a discussion about military service.

It's not "the Bush twins going off to war," she says. "It's going to be the poor kids growing up in the South or the inner city who go off to war."

But she doesn't think reinstating the draft is the answer - and calls it a "terrible" idea.

"The majority of people who'd be drafted would oppose the war," Vail says, referring to Iraq.

more...

http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/nat-gen/2006/nov/20/112002408.html

[truthisfreedom]

12. They simply don't get that it's the most effective way to stop war.

We have a war criminal for a pretzeldunt. If we'd had a draft, we wouldn't. Plain and simple.

[rockymountaindem]

13. How long did the Vietnam war last?

Korea? Yeah, it's a panacea alright.

[Kagemusha]

14. Hasn't worked for Israel.

Why would it work here?

[knight_of_the_star]

19. Israel's different

That country needs a draft just to survive and their people know it. If their military and intell weren't on the ball the way they are then Israel wouldn't be a country.

[Art_from_Ark]

16. On the other hand, if we'd had a draft

we could very well have been in Iran or Syria by now.

[USA_1]

17. NO IT ISN'T!

The best way to stop all war is to impose a 100 % excess profits tax on all war profits. Every cent of gross profit is to be taxed at that rate.

Guarantee: it will take away all incentive for corporate pigs from making war profits.

[AndyTiedye]

18. Draft Didn't Stop Nixon. WATERGATE Did.

[lapfog_1]

15. Homer Simpson moment...

"The majority of people who'd be drafted would oppose the war," Vail says...

Duuuuh!

Time to kill off the young Republicans... figuratively. nothing like having to actually go the war you are cheerleading to make you question your beliefs.

[Polesitter]

20. DUH! And Pigs oppose Ham & Egg Breakfast. n/t