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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 10:39 PM
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Kansas Republican (Brownback) eyes presidential bid
WASHINGTON - Sen. Sam Brownback (news, bio, voting record), who is considering a White House bid in 2008, said Monday the Republican field has room for a "full-scale Ronald Reagan conservative" and pledged to make a final decision next month.

The Kansas senator said he was not discouraged from running by the Democrats' strong gains in this month's midterm elections, including majority control of the House and Senate.

"It does not make it less likely," he said in an interview. "I really believe that the basic conservative ideas and ideals were not repudiated. Our execution was."

A more daunting challenge for Brownback are the better known potential candidates. Arizona Sen. John McCain (news, bio, voting record) and former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani have set up presidential exploratory committees. Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., also are weighing bids.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061120/ap_on_el_pr/brownback2008
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 10:43 PM
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1. Oh please Sam
do it for us. A Reagan conservative? LOL, whatever.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 10:43 PM
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2. Yet another circus clown to stuff into the car.....
at the Republican Sideshow Freak Circus.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 10:45 PM
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3. basic conservative ideals have been abandonned by the GOP, Mr. Brownshirt
Edited on Mon Nov-20-06 10:46 PM by ixion
in lieu of theocracy and fascism. :grr:
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beltanefauve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 10:47 PM
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4. I expect to see
a lot of Repubs claiming to be Ronald Reagan reincarnated in time for the next election, but Sam Brownback? Please!
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 10:48 PM
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5. Another deluded idiot
Is it something in the water?
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 10:49 PM
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6. I hope he runs.
So he ca fight it out with McCain over who's a more backwards moron.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 10:55 PM
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7. Oh, yes. I like this idea.
Sam Brownback, bad executor extraordinaire.
What are you going to run on, your record?

The extraordinary way S.E. Kansas' economy has flourished with you and Pat in the Senate. So will he carry Kansas in a presidential run? I think it is possible, but not guaranteed.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 11:00 PM
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8. Oh god help us
:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 11:02 PM
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9. Playing towards the Fundie base
Even though he is a ultra-conservative Catholic, which will work against him.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 11:09 PM
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10. one question, Mr. Brownback: What century are we in?
Must be within 5 centuries.
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biscotti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 11:27 PM
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11. Brownback is Delusional
a twisted religious right bubble boy.
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 11:32 PM
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12. Dear God: I will go to church every week...
if you just let the Republicans be dumb enough to nominate Sam Brownback for President.

I think as Democrats we owe it to ourselves to send this guy money and encouraging e-mails. Go Sam, Go!
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 11:37 PM
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13. All of the evil, but 50% less stupidity.
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 11:48 PM
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14. Kansas Democrat (Scout) eyes empty Senate seat.
Well, not me, but I have said it before and I'll say it again....the Democrats need to find a couple of solid Democratic Senate challengers in Kansas. We now have 2 Dem Congressman, Dem Gov, Dem AG.....why not a Dem senator?
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 11:52 PM
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15. Enter stage right
The Crackpot. Right on cue.

I look at the potential Democratic field for 2008 and it lacks for entertainment value, the crackpots. I can't think on one potential Dem candidate that is wacked out as some of the front runner Repugs.

Time for :popcorn: This will be entertaining to say the least.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 11:56 PM
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16. Reagen was for stem cell research, and abortion
this guy isn't

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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 12:27 AM
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17. Brownback is my pick to win the Repub nomination
I don't think he'll win the general (but then, I didn't think bush would either. wait a minute... I was right about that one).
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 03:46 AM
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18. Lightweight
Not someone who is sitting at the grownups table.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 03:53 AM
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19. I could see him winning the nomination, but not the general.
He is a favorite of the right-wing.
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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 04:52 AM
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20. Yeah, Brownback should run...and he can have...
Inhofe of Oklahoma for his vp. What a pair they would be.
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nealmhughes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 06:23 AM
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21. Please and tap Little Ricky as your running mate! Let Ted Stevens run, too!
Jim Inhofe and Kate Harris! Bob and Libbie Dole!

As I once overheard at a dinner party with some very odd guests, "Normal guest": "Why are there so many wirdos here tonight? I mean I like a 'good mix,' but..." Host: "I like all my crazy together at once."
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 07:04 AM
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22. Want to barf? Read this Rolling Stone article about him...
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/9178374/gods_senator

<snip>
Sitting in the darkness of the front row is Sam Brownback, the Republican senator from Kansas. And hunched over on the stage in a red leather chair is an old man named Harald Bredesen, who has come to anoint Brownback as the Christian right's next candidate for president.

Over the last six decades, Bredesen has prayed with so many presidents and prime ministers and kings that he can barely remember their names. He's the spiritual father of Pat Robertson, the man behind the preacher's vast media empire. He was one of three pastors who laid hands on Ronald Reagan in 1970 and heard the Pasadena Prophecy: the moment when God told Reagan that he would one day occupy the White House. And he recently dispatched one of his proteges to remind George W. Bush of the divine will -- and evangelical power -- behind his presidency.

Tonight, Bredesen has come to breathe that power into Brownback's presidential campaign. After little more than a decade in Washington, Brownback has managed to position himself at the very center of the Christian conservative uprising that is transforming American politics.

<snip>

Every Tuesday, before his evening meeting with his prayer brothers, Brownback chairs another small cell -- one explicitly dedicated to altering public policy. It is called the Values Action Team, and it is composed of representatives from leading organizations on the religious right. James Dobson's Focus on the Family sends an emissary, as does the Family Research Council, the Eagle Forum, the Christian Coalition, the Traditional Values Coalition, Concerned Women for America and many more. Like the Fellowship prayer cell, everything that is said is strictly off the record, and even the groups themselves are forbidden from discussing the proceedings. It's a little "cloak-and-dagger," says a Brownback press secretary. The VAT is a war council, and the enemy, says one participant, is "secularism."

The VAT coordinates the efforts of fundamentalist pressure groups, unifying their message and arming congressional staffers with the data and language they need to pass legislation. Working almost entirely in secret, the group has directed the fights against gay marriage and for school vouchers, against hate-crime legislation and for "abstinence only" education. The VAT helped win passage of Brownback's broadcast decency bill and made the president's tax cuts a top priority. When it comes to "impacting policy," says Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council, "day to day, the VAT is instrumental."

<more>


First printed in January 2006.

The fundies will lap him up, and nobody else will take the conspiracy seriously.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 09:00 AM
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36. That was a good piece.
I read it when it first came out. Rolling Stone has excellent investigative journalists. Another one of my favorite Rolling Stone pieces was the one on Scientology. Excellent.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 07:58 AM
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23. Brownback or Fhrist would make wonderful GOP candidates
Edited on Tue Nov-21-06 08:00 AM by Gman
Hopefully one of them or another real nut will be nominated. We need them to nominate the most wingnut fundie neanderthal they can come up with. I'm sure "the base" will do their best to be sure someone that can win like Giuliani or McCain won't get nominated. We could pick up another 6 Senate seats and another 30 House seats if they do. Maybe that idiot will campaign for them. The possibilities...!
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Moloch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 08:55 AM
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24. Kansas Republican eyes presidential bid (Brownback)
WASHINGTON - Sen. Sam Brownback (news, bio, voting record), who is considering a White House bid in 2008, said Monday the Republican field has room for a "full-scale
Ronald Reagan conservative" and pledged to make a final decision next month.

The Kansas senator said he was not discouraged from running by the Democrats' strong gains in this month's midterm elections, including majority control of the House and Senate.

"It does not make it less likely," he said in an interview. "I really believe that the basic conservative ideas and ideals were not repudiated. Our execution was."

A more daunting challenge for Brownback are the better known potential candidates. Arizona Sen. John McCain (news, bio, voting record) and former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani have set up presidential exploratory committees. Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., also are weighing bids.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061121/ap_on_el_pr/brownback2008

We should do everything possible to help brownback gets the republican nomination. He would be even better than gary bauer or alan keyes.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 08:55 AM
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25. Yes, he would be a great Republican candidate!
I would actually enjoy that election season. What a loon!
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 08:55 AM
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26. Oh, please run Sam
I want the Republican primary to be about the all of the crazy social issues the wackjobs adore. Brownback being in the race, would bring these to the table and show Americans how crazy they are.
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Chipper Chat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 08:55 AM
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30. Brownbacker's top 5 issues will be:
1) Overturning Roe v Wade
2) Stopping gays from marrying
3) A constitutional amendment against flag burning
4) Invading every country not governed by white people
4) Mandatory daily reading from the bible in public schools
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Joe_VB Donating Member (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 08:55 AM
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27. I second that.....Brownshirt is a total pant load....
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IADEMO2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 08:55 AM
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28. God's Senator from Rolling Stone
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 08:55 AM
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29. I wonder how long Repubs are going to insist they're
Ronald Reagan Republicans. Half the country (democrats) will think that's a bad thing; the pool of republicans who liked him is getting smaller everyday as they pass away, and the younger voters who turned out in force for this election probably don't remember much about him.

It's time to let him go, guys. Stop hiding behind a dead man because you don't have anything to offer - personality-wise or politically.

TlalocW
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 08:55 AM
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31. As more & more people realize what they have done to America
In Reagan's name, I think there will soon be a whole sale wave of dis associative frenzy. Reagan was asleep he didn't even know what they were doing. At any rate he was nothing more than an affable front man.
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Chipper Chat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 08:55 AM
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35. Saint Ronnie's not going away anytime soon:
Charlie Crist
Charlie Crist was at his best as he waded into a crowd of supporters. "I'm a Ronald Reagan Republican."

*****************************************************

December 10, 2003, 8:38 a.m.
A Dime Worth a Difference
Reagan and FDR may soon share the 10-cent coin.

In the not too distant future, your pocket change could include some Ronald Reagan dimes.
Rep. Mark Souder (R., Ind.), introduced legislation last month to replace the profile of Franklin D. Roosevelt on the dime with Reagan's. Since then, his bill has gathered 80 Republican cosponsors, and is backed by almost every major GOP House leader, including Speaker of the House J. Dennis Hastert, House Majority Leader Tom Delay, House Majority Whip Roy Blunt, and Rules Committee Chairman David

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

3 March 2000
Smile-a-while: New ideas
Commentary by Chris Matthews, Gov. Paul Cellucci (R-MA)
Hardball, MSNBC, 2/23/00


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GOV. PAUL CELLUCCI: Well lookit, went there to deliver his message. And I find it interesting that Senator McCain is saying, "I'm the Reagan Republican." Why isn't he criticizing Ronald Reagan? Ronald Reagan did the same thing George W. Bush did—

Not to a tabloid talker he didn't:

CHRIS MATTHEWS: Twenty years ago!

CELLUCCI: —but you don't hear John McCain criticizing him—

MATTHEWS: Twenty years ago! But twenty years ago!

CELLUCCI: But why is it OK for Reagan and it's not all right for Bush? It's a double standard. It's your typical Washington politician.



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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 08:55 AM
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32. or Santorum.
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Moloch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 08:55 AM
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34. We should do everything we possibly can...
for a Brownback/Santorum ticket. That would be awesome.
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 08:55 AM
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33. Maybe he'll split off
to form the gawd party dedicated to forming the Amerikkan theocracy.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 01:55 PM
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37. Are embryos allowed to vote in repuke primaries?
That'd just about nail it down for Brownshirt... :puke:
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 02:10 PM
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38. Sam Brownback - The Kinder, Gentler John Ashcroft
Well, it's not the best political slogan money can buy, but at least it's truthful!
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 02:20 PM
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39. Oh this is a good thing...
A kindler, gentler evangelical jihad. They are banking on the collective memory of the voters to be less than two years retention.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 02:25 PM
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40. Note to GOP: THE CULTURE WARS ARE OVER!
Most people care more about the economy, healthcare, and Iraq then they do about cultural issues nowdays.
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