Most Americans Believe Iraq War Resembles Vietnam

[Hissyspit]

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2006-11/23/content_5364591.htm

Most Americans believe Iraq war resembles Vietnam

www.chinaview.cn 2006-11-23 03:01:38

WASHINGTON, Nov. 22 (Xinhua) -- Most Americans now believe that the war in Iraq is similar in many ways to the U.S. experience in Vietnam, according to a latest survey.

The poll by Opinion Research Corporation, released Wednesday by CNN, finds that 58 percent respondents believe the war in Iraq has turned into a situation like the nation faced in Vietnam, up six points since early October.

In another finding, a whopping 63 percent of Americans now say they oppose the war in Iraq, with only 33 percent favoring it. However, U.S. President George W. Bush said earlier this week on a visit to Vietnam that the lesson of that war was that the country needs to stay in Iraq and "win" this time.

The poll is based on telephone interviews with 1,025 American adults, conducted from Nov. 17 to Nov. 19.

[dubykc]

1. The war in Iraq is not "winnable" there is no readily identifiable "enemy"

[sweetheart]

2. hasn't it from the outset?

Gulf of tonkin reichstag world trade center pearl harbour alamo archduke ferdinand indeed.

[Hissyspit]

4. Yup. n/t

[beltanefauve]

3. I suspect

there are are still a lot of holdouts who are against the war in Iraq not because it was morally wrong to go invade and occupy that country, but because we're not "winning". Americans as a whole tend to be all about their comfort level. But as this goes on, and more and more people either know someone who was killed or maimed, or know someone who knows someone who was killed or maimed, the issue of Iraq will hit closer and closer to "home", so to speak. And probably the easiest way for Middle America to reconcile with this mindset is to draw the parallel between Iraq and Vietnam.

[arewenotdemo]

6. Agreed. One has to wonder what those Americans that are uncomfortable

with the intractable nature of the conflict must have thought when Bush advanced his "we'll succeed if we don't quit" Vietnam lesson learned.

[Peace Patriot]

5. Opposition to the war hasn't changed that much. 56% of Americans

opposed the Iraq War from the beginning, before the invasion (Feb. '03). This poll says 63% are now against it, and calls it "whopping." Well, 56% was pretty whopping. It would be a landslide in a presidential election.

The question is, how did they manage to shove this war down our throats anyway? And the other question is, how did we all get the idea that we are the minority?

The answer to the first is Diebold and ES&S, and the coup that occurred in Oct. 2002, the so-called "Help America Vote Act," by which these two rightwing Bushite corporations gained controlled of our election system in a very short time, 2002-2004, with TRADE SECRET, PROPRIETARY programming code in all the new electronic voting machines and central tabulators, by means of $3.9 billion in boondoggle funding (engineered by the biggest crooks in the Anthrax Congress, Tom Delay and Bob Ney), and with not a whisper of objection from our own party leadership. ES&S, a spinoff of Diebold, was initially funded by rightwing billionaire Howard Ahmanson, who also gave one million dollars to the extremist 'christian' Chalcedon foundation (which touts the death penalty for homosexuals, among other things). Diebold was headed by Wally O'Dell, a Bush-Cheney campaign chair and major fundraiser. These are the people who "counted" 80% of the nation's votes in 2004. The American people tried to vote against the Iraq War then, and were thwarted by malicious code in Diebold/ES&S's extremely insecure and insider hackable voting machines and central tabulators, code that can be inserted and removed, or is self-erasing, leaving no trace.

The answer to the second--why do we think we were ever the minority?--is the war profiteering corporate news monopolies, run by 5 rightwing billionaire CEOs, who have given a Big Trumpet to the extreme, warmongering rightwing, way out of proportion to their numbers.

[BikeWriter]

7. I know VietNam and buck fush!