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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 11:13 AM
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(CNN Nancy) Grace to air Biloxi's recovery
Edited on Thu Nov-23-06 11:20 AM by merh
Grace to air Biloxi's recovery
City to be featured on CNN
By ANITA LEE
calee@sunherald.com

BILOXI - True to her word, Katrina volunteer and television legal commentator Nancy Grace will feature Biloxi on her CNN Headline News Program, but in a bigger way than she knew or acknowledged when she visited the city.

Biloxi's recovery, including bureaucratic snags that have slowed the pace, will be the topic of Grace's hourlong Thanksgiving show, which begins at 7 p.m. and repeats at 9 p.m. and midnight.

(sip)

"Nancy Grace helps rebuild Biloxi, Mississippi, homes devastated by Hurricane Katrina and talks to survivors of the deadly storm. More than a year later, federal and state aid is held up in red tape, while thousands remain homeless or living in FEMA trailers that may be taken away soon."

(snip)

More @ http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunherald/news/16081178.htm


Thank goodness someone is still paying attention to the needs of Hurricane Katrina Survivors.

Yes folks, WE still struggle and WE are a part of this nation!

More than 99,000 families in Louisiana and Mississippi are living in FEMA trailers, compared with about 34,000 last November, according to the Federal Emergency Management Agency....

DU link and full article @ http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2627741


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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 11:29 AM
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1. Kicking
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 11:31 AM
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2. Is it true...
That two families will be moving into Ms. Grace's nostrils? ;-)
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 11:35 AM
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3. redacted
Edited on Thu Nov-23-06 11:52 AM by matcom
for the humor-impared
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 11:41 AM
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5. WTF?
Do you have a link or is that just your sick attempt at humor?

:shrug:

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Blue in Bama Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 11:47 AM
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7. Matcom
that was some good ole black humor there. Glad to be back (under a differnent moniker) after a years banishment. I am gonna be nice this time, I promise. I look forward to talking to ya more later.
R
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 11:29 AM
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43. Humor impaired?
How about for the survivors of Katrina that need help and need folks to pay attention? :shrug:

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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 11:39 AM
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4. You know, I've always loved the humor and sarcasim of DUers
Edited on Thu Nov-23-06 11:46 AM by merh
but with all due respect, I resent your post and find it pointless. You miss the importance of the topic and snide remarks only demise the point of this thread. Nancy Grace spent her week's vacation laboring to help others rebuild. This isn't just "walk around with a microphone and gawk", she worked, sans make-up in t-shirt and jeans, helping to insulate and sheet rock and paint a survivors home. She has proven she cares and she wants the nation, the world to know that the problems still exist. What have you done?

I have a new respect for the lady, someone that before her visit, annoyed the holy hell out of me. But she put her words and concerns into action and with the airing of this show and others, she is keeping the spotlight on the needs of her fellow Americans. Annoying personality traits and conservative positions be damned, she is actually doing more than spouting off.



:hi:

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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 09:57 AM
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31. Yeah, she cared when she drove that mother of the missing baby to suicide
and then replayed the show as a "fuck you" to the family. Class act, that Nancy. :sarcasm:
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 11:22 AM
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39. Guess you haven't kept up with that story either.
http://crimeblog.us/?p=218

The questioning of Duckett was nothing compared to the questioning she faced when the authorities uncovered portions of her life. Imagine how the real prosecutor and law enforcement authorities would have questioned her once they discovered the images referenced at the blog above.

The focus of this thread should not be about Grace but about the spotlight she has shown on the needs of tens of thousands of Americans. It should be about the disgrace the government should feel for failing its citizens and the needs of the Katrina survivors.



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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 02:14 AM
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56. You should be fucking ashamed of yourself for posting that
Speculation is now fact? What proof do you have that this woman endangered her child? What official proof?

You're joining your new hero Crazy Nancy in pissing on a traumatized mother's grave. Congratulations.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 08:37 AM
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61. The father of the child says that is his child in the photo
and the mother of the child in the photo. Despite the mother's death, the child is still missing and the investigation continues. No one is pissing on a traumatized mother's grave, they are trying to find a missing child who appears to be at risk for far more trauma than tough questioning.

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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 11:56 AM
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44. Oh, btw - what about the Katrina suicides?
Edited on Fri Nov-24-06 12:12 PM by merh
http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial_s&hl=en&q=Katrina+suicides&btnG=Google+Search

Hundreds of suicides here because people have lost hope and have been forgotten.

Would you like me to tell you the tales of the friends I know that have died since the storm, some from suicide, some from broken hearts that just gave up, some because alcohol is their comfort and it doesn't mix with driving?

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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 02:15 AM
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57. Who asked you about Katrina suicides?
I was only talking about Crazy Nancy Grace, your new hero, driving a mother to kill herself.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 08:34 AM
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59. She might have been the straw that broke the camel's back, so
to speak, but that woman was on a down hill spiral and prosecutors and police would have been far harsher had the woman not decided to take her own life.

The Katrina suicides are legitimate to the discussion as the lack of concern of a nation and the slow response of the government have caused them and Grace is trying to keep folks like you informed.

I'll ask again, what have you done?

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Blue in Bama Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 11:45 AM
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6. The sumbitch will have to RECOVER
along with the rest of the Missisippi Coast before there will be anything TO cover. It is still a mess..hell some might say.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 11:48 AM
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8. I live here,
it ain't no friggin paradise and the thought of spending another Christmas in my fema trailer makes me sick, but what can I do?

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Blue in Bama Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 12:02 PM
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9. I don't know
raise hell I guess. It is a shame. I have friends in New orleans, went there back in May..it was tough to look at even though the "Quarter" was somewhat back open. Lots of misery and lots of Mom and Pop places that will never return....
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 03:39 PM
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10. I'm told that during Comedy Relief, Mississippi was mentioned only 7 times.....
What a joke. They choose to ignore our devastation.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 07:46 PM
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12. Well hell, Rowdyboy, look how many have paid attention to this
thread. Don't ya know, Katrina is so last year.

We are like that homeless man on the street, you can't do anything to help him, so you just walk back and try to forget about him.

Apathy is a bitch! :hi:

:hug:

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Blue in Bama Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 03:53 PM
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11. Think I'll
kick, too. Mabye somebody will tear into Nasty Nancy and I'll have a good laugh!
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FuzzySlippers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 07:54 PM
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13. Good for her!
Hi, sweetie! Hope you had a nice Thanksgiving! :hi: :hug:
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 10:07 PM
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16. I hope folks watch the show, but then again, football &
Grey's Anatomy are hard to compete against.

It was a great program and if I am not mistaken, it won't be her last program on the struggles here.

I had a good Thanksgiving, I hope you had a good one too. :hug: :loveya:

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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 08:32 PM
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14. glad that she will be calling attention
to one of the great shames of this decade - the shame of a country turning a blind eye, again and again.

My heartfelt wishes that the coming year will bring a better response, and real recovery.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 10:20 PM
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17. Thank you for the well wishes
:hug:

It's good to see you, I hope you are well and I hope you had a Happy Thanksgiving. :hug:
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 10:46 PM
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20. Thank you,
the best TG in years. Very special, though I can't put my finger on what it was that was different in the larger family dynamic. I hope that yours, despite the challenges, was fulfilling and full of warmth.

As always - it is good to see you - and I send you my warmest wishes.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 08:47 PM
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15. nominated
My dear Gulf Coast DUers...
My prayers & wishes are for you this Thanksgiving. The apathy and forgetfulness of this country is harsh indeed.
Anyone, ANYONE who steps up to the plate to give you a hand, or aim the spotlight back in your direction gets a big thumbs up from me, regardless of their ideological stance.

(hey there, merh:hi: )
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 11:00 PM
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22. Thank you annabanana
I'm glad you can appreciate the need to have the spotlight focused our way.

It's good to see you, I hope you had a wonderful Thanksgiving. :hi:

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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 10:21 PM
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18. She is still a freakin' psycho.
Just sayin.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 11:05 PM
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23. Maybe she is
but she is a pyscho with a soapbox that is not only willing to use it to try to make a difference, she actually labored on the Coast, helping folks rebuild their homes.

I'll ask you as I have asked others, what have you done or when are you coming to do the same?

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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 10:29 PM
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19. As much as I appreciate your plight ...
and deeply regret what has happened in Biloxi, I find it hard to applaud such a self aggrandizing, sensationalist 'journalist' ....

Im glad she is doing good for you and I would NEVER take that away from her or you, but damnit: she is part of the PROBLEM in media, even if she is a solution in Biloxi ....

More power to ya and her in this ordeal ... but she could extend that 'helpfulness' to exposing the lies which have been perpetrated against the citizens by doing her job 24/7 ....

The Bankruptcy and Medicare bills were 'Katrina' like disasters on a national scale, and she hasnt said a peep about them .....

But I am glad she is at LEAST doing this, and strongly, I presume from the passion of your account ....
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 10:55 PM
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21. Are you that dense that you can't see how beneficial her efforts
are, not just for those that she helped rebuild their homes, but for the nation.

Katrina is so much more than a storm, it is a failing of this nation to take care of her own.

Watch the show and you will see that she highlights the failure of both the state and federal government. It's not candy coated, it is real and if her taking part in the efforts opens her eyes to the failings of the government in this instance, she is more likely to recognize the failings in other areas.

It is apparent that you really have no clue why the other side takes the position they do. It is not because they adore those in the administration, it is because they cannot fathom that the US could be so wrong, they love the nation so much, questioning her leaders is tantamount to sacrilege. Grace's efforts here may well have caused the scales to fall away from her eyes. It may have been the enlightening experience needed to make her question the administration in so many other ways. I am willing to give her the benefit of the doubt in that regard and I am grateful for the soapbox she possesses and is using. The spotlight has dimmed her on the Mississippi Gulf Coast, even folks on DU could give a damn about our plight.

And, btw, when are you coming to volunteer your time and sweat to help?

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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 12:01 AM
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24. I guess Im that dense .....
I suppose you didnt read my concerns about Katrina's effects into my comments, and that you assume my rejection of Grace means I also dont care about you or the other Katrina victims ....

Much like how the RW declares that those who dont love Bush and his war 'Hate the troops', you have declared that I must like Grace if I am to care about you ...

Nothing I can do about that ....

Any other insults for me ? ... Ill be around an hour or so ....
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 12:34 AM
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25. How sad it is you that you see the negative in everything
Voicing your "concerns" for Katrina SURVIVORS (I've yet to meet a victim) is nothing more than lip service. What have you done? We know Grace has volunteered here and actually labored on behalf of needy survivors and that she is keeping the subject in the media by covering it on her show.

Relative to your RW comments, I can say the same of your post, when put on the spot, you turn to insults just like righties (eg, the RW comparison) and you fail to consider the benefit of her segment and her newly discovered concerns and realization that the nation has failed the Katrina survivors.

I never said you should like Grace, I offered that you should give her the benefit of the doubt and I questioned what you have actually done to help the survivors or when you were planning on volunteering. At least Grace has done something. What's that tell you? Grace's actual physical labor and providing publicity for an area that has fallen off the map, though it is still a part of this nation, compared to lip service.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 12:35 AM
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26. I was unkind to Grace ....
NOT to you ....

Your comment that I was 'dense' was uncalled for ....

I neednt say anymore .... We are done ....
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 09:26 AM
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29. Heh, you may be finished but I am not though your attempt to
Edited on Fri Nov-24-06 09:29 AM by merh
dismiss me and the issue is duly noted.

As pointed out below, Grace is a Democrat and gives to dem candidates. Grace has also done more for the Katrina survivors than most including you given your failure to answer what you have done or when you will be volunteeering.

Never asked anyone to like Grace, I asked that they pay attention to her show and respect her efforts to help others and to keep folks informed of the needs on the MS Gulf Coast.

As I said above, apathy is a bitch, closed mindedness is also a bitch. :hi:


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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 08:42 PM
Response to Reply #29
51. I am not dismissve of you or your passion for Katrina Justice ...
I am dismissive of your demand that I pay her an ounce of respect ....

Fuck that ....
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 03:12 AM
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28. You do know nancy is a Democrat and gives lots of money to Democrats?
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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 09:59 AM
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32. So was Fred Phelps n/t
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 10:04 AM
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33. Eww are you one of those bashers
Edited on Fri Nov-24-06 10:05 AM by merh
of people who just want to bash someone you don't like and who refuses to recognize the importantance of her coverage of the Katrina survivors?

Dang it, why is it to hard to see what she did?

When is the last time you even thought of Katrina Survivors let alone tried to focus attention on their needs or help them try to rebuild their lives?

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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 10:35 AM
Response to Reply #33
34. Glad to see you think so highly of a journalistic vampire like Nancy
I'd bet the family of Melinda Duckett has a lower opinion of Nancy's "compassion"

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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 11:10 AM
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37. Again, what have you done
for the Katrina survivors and when is the last time you even found yourself concerned with their struggles and their needs?

Go ahead and ignore the importance of her work relative to the Katrina survivors and continue your hate if it makes you feel better. It won't help Duckett or the Katrina survivors, but what does that matter, what good does that do for anyone?

The point of my post and Grace's show last night was to try to spot light the needs of thousands of American citizens that have been forgotten by their government and their fellow citizens.





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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 02:04 AM
Response to Reply #37
55. That cross must be awfully heavy. n/t
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 08:35 AM
Response to Reply #55
60. Not as heavy as a hate filled heart. n/t
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 11:23 AM
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40. But...but...but...she's IMPURE! IMPURE, I tell you!!!
I'm not a fan of hers, but it's great that she is using her access to the media to tell the world what is happening down here on the coast. Lots of people are her fans, and now they will know that people are still suffering, even though the media have mostly gotten bored with the story and moved on to other things.

And it's all too predictable that many here are so hung up on purity that they cannot see that.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 11:28 AM
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42. Exactly
thank you for this post!

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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 08:40 PM
Response to Reply #28
50. Yes, I knew that ....
Grace is, nevertheless, a poor substitute for a good journalist .... no matter HOW much money she gives, or how many Katrina stories she might have ....

Giving to Democrats isnt Carte Blanche for refusing to tell the truth on everything other than Katrina ....
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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 02:17 AM
Response to Reply #50
58. thank you
Crazy Nancy can't wash away all her sins with an hour Katrina special
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 12:50 AM
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27. I nominated this thread, too.
It is amazing to me (and not in a good way) that our fellow citizens are still waiting for help. I rad an article (I can't remember where-I am coming down with a severe case of CRS) a few weeks ago that said that some of the survivors in Plaquemines parish are living in shipping containers. Bush stood in front of that cathedral in New Orleans and promised this and that. All platitudes, all bullshit. None of it done. Nancy Grace (no matter what you think of her) and Anderson Cooper are at least keeping an eye on the situation and covering it, from time to time.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 09:30 AM
Response to Reply #27
30. your post is spot on
thank you.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 03:41 PM
Response to Reply #27
49. lower plaquemines parish has been in effect abandoned
it is shocking how little has been done, necessary industries are returning, houses not so much

on the mississippi gulf coast it is amazing to see how much rebuilding has come from the casinos, who by federal law can receive no money for $$$, and how many people are still living in the trailers and how few homes seem to be fully repaired

i think if not for the casinos providing good jobs, many of the people would have had no choice but to abandon the coast and disappear who knows where in search of housing and work

it's scary to see how little is coming from the gov't except a lot of big talk

now, in new orleans, they are saying that people who are receiving their "road home" money after a year's delay -- will have to pay tax on it -- why do they have to pay this tax, because they didn't receive the grant money in the 2005 tax year (!!!!)

christ, kafka was not a storyteller, he was a futurist

i don't care if satan or o.j. simpson himself makes a television show on the subject, any publicity brought to this disgraceful episode in american history is needed publicity
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Dulcinea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 10:38 AM
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35. I'm not a fan of hers
...but if she's willing to use her bully pulpit to call attention to this great national shame, more power to her. It is absolutely inexcusable that our fellow Americans have been hung out to dry, literally and figuratively.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 02:09 PM
Response to Reply #35
48. I've never been her fan either
not until she actually spent her vacation here working to help others rebuild and not until she promised to keep the spotlight on the efforts on the Mississippi Gulf Coast.

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Akoto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 10:48 AM
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36. I don't like Nancy Grace at all, BUT ...
Edited on Fri Nov-24-06 10:49 AM by Akoto
If she wants to turn her influence to the benefit of Biloxi, rather than covering the latest rich white girl or the person she wants fried before due process, more power to her.

It takes her up a notch in my book, and hopefully, it will do something to help the folks down south who very much need the attention.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 11:18 AM
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38. I still hate Nancy Grace
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 11:26 AM
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41. Who the hell cares?
What about the Katrina survivors and their needs, how do you feel about them and what have you done to focus attention to their plight, to the nation's failure relative to helping them and when are you coming to help? At least Grace has helped, is trying to keep the survivors' needs in the spotlight and is pointing out the continued failures of the administration.

Damn, I didn't realize that hate ruled so many here and ruled it to such a point that they miss the true issues and that is Katrina survivors and the government's failings.

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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 11:58 AM
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45. Hey, hey!
Just because I hate her doesn't mean I miss the issue. Don't go making over-generalizations when many here have our own opinions about her.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 12:09 PM
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46. Well let's see -- your comment added nothing to the discussion
Edited on Fri Nov-24-06 12:10 PM by merh
relative to the needs of the Katrina survivors so why did you post it?

I could care less what you think of Grace and hating her is your problem, not mine. And yes, imho, it is a problem if that hate clouds your ability to recognize the good that could possibly come from her concerns and efforts on behalf of Katrina survivors.

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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 12:27 PM
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47. It doesn't
So stop getting on my rear.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 09:35 AM
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52. Good for her and Biloxi!
Like you merh I am glad of anyone who does something to help out. I am far away and sorely lacking resources so it makes me happy when anyone with more than I tries to help.

I hope she does updates and keeps shining a light on that horrible situation.

Cheers,
Julie
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 11:27 AM
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53. thanks for
understanding the importance of her coverage.

Sometimes the hate on this board frightens me, posts like your's truly help.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 12:27 PM
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54. No good deed goes unpunished
as the old addage goes. Chin up friend, at least you see good when/where it happens. Many lack that ability.

Cheers-
Julie
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