Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

BACKLASH: Pahrump flag ban won't fly:Sheriff refuses to enforce law targeting immigrants

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 02:07 PM
Original message
BACKLASH: Pahrump flag ban won't fly:Sheriff refuses to enforce law targeting immigrants
PAHRUMP -- In a small act of civil disobedience, Pahrump residents Bob and Liese Tamburrino on Saturday raised an Italian flag and a Polish flag over their garage.

In a not-so-civil act, a vandal or vandals, in the middle of the night less than 24 hours later, egged their Italian flag.
"They probably thought it was a Mexican flag," Bob Tamburrino said of the Italian flag, which was chosen as a tribute to his ancestry.

The Pahrump Town Board on Nov. 14 adopted an ordinance that bans the flying of foreign flags by themselves.

The board also declared English the town's official language and denied unspecified, and apparently nonexistent, town benefits to undocumented immigrants.

The Tamburrinos, who are incensed at the ordinance they say is unconstitutional and smacks of racism, called police after the egging even though they could have been ticketed for violating the new ordinance.

But officers did not cite the couple, and Nye County Sheriff Tony DeMeo said Wednesday that he has no plans to ever enforce the ordinance.

DeMeo also called it unconstitutional.

more...

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2006/Nov-23-Thu-2006/news/11008521.html
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 02:10 PM
Response to Original message
1. this is a sick ticket ...
snip...

During the heated Nov. 14 meeting at which the ordinance was adopted, several proponents promised they would take it upon themselves to enforce the ordinance after Town Board Chairman Richard Billman called it unenforceable.

Since then, some Latino Pahrump residents have been harassed.

Lucero Enrriquez, a Mexican immigrant and the owner of Mi Ranchito market in Pahrump, received an anonymous postcard last week that said, in part, "We are sick to our stomachs of seeing Mexicans on every street walking with 2 or 3 kids and the mother has (2) more in her belly. ... You people are draining and abusing our welfare system and we are frankly sick of it."

snip...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 02:12 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. I Suppose Welfare Should Be Reserved For the Rednecks?
shakes head sadly
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 02:52 PM
Response to Reply #2
8. Actually, I have dug up articles that indicate that the immigrants
are reluctant to accept welfare even when offered to them. Here's one of them:

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stamp13oct13,1,224178.story?ctrack=1&cset=true

So all these cries of outrage of immigrants using our social services are only made up by people with hidden agendas in order to foment hatred for these people.

The food stamps in question actually are for the immigrants to feed their American born children and so the children can get minimum medical care.

Once a DUer said to me that only people who speak English should get services. Said DUer did get tombstoned but it's a widespread idea among those who are anti-immigration.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 04:18 PM
Response to Reply #8
10. Sadly, that attitude
does exist here. And not all who believe that way get TSed.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bperci108 Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 10:17 PM
Response to Reply #8
15. Not only that...
...I seem to remember hearing about a study done in CA that found that non-citizens actually pay more into the system versus the services they use, meaning that they are effectively subsidizing the rest of us (in a very small way, but how ironic nonetheless...).

I wouldn't be surprised, as they are often reluctant to get into "the system" in any way, lest they be identified and deported, so they pay in but get little in return.

But I don't suppose this would make any difference to those who just want any excuse to heap hate on brown people of any sort.


:(
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 02:15 PM
Response to Original message
3. Interesting article on same page:
IMMIGRATION'S EFFECTS
Pahrump's now-infamous new ordinance conjures images of a desert town fighting back against a surge of illegal immigrants.

Local officials paint a different picture.

Police, school and health care administrators in the town 60 miles west of Las Vegas said they have seen none of the drain on public services often cited by proponents of ordinances targeting undocumented immigrants.

Nye County Sheriff Tony DeMeo said he has seen no increase in crimes because of illegal immigrants -- or anyone else, for that matter.

<skip>

The impact of illegal immigration also has yet to be felt at the community's only hospital, which opened in late April.

"We really don't have a way to track it, but it doesn't appear to be a big issue," said David Rencher, administrator of Desert View Regional Medical Center.

<skip>

"We don't have any idea which students are illegal aliens and which ones aren't. We would have no way of knowing that. We're not allowed to ask that question," Roberts said. "Whoever walks through the door, we have a moral obligation to educate them."

<skip>

Asked if the district must struggle to provide for those students, Roberts said the problem is "no greater here than anywhere else."

"We struggle with being the 47th or 48th state in the country in per-pupil spending. That's what we struggle with," he said.

<skip>

Undocumented immigrants are not eligible for welfare benefits under federal law, said Jeff Brenn, chief of eligibility and payments for Nevada's Division of Welfare and Supportive Services. "If they're illegals, they aren't eligible for anything but emergency medical services."

more . .
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 02:22 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. enmasse ignorance and racism ...just like in the ole days of lynchings
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 02:22 PM
Response to Original message
5. Pahrump defies description. Generally insane place.
My parents moved to Pahrump in 1977. There was no television, no FM radio, nothing really except a greasy little spot in a low desert valley between Mt. Charleston separating Pahrump from Las Vegas, and a mountain range on the west. You could buy land real cheap, and put a house on it.

It is a bigoted creepy place that has lax to no zoning laws, which they take pride in as people buy some land and put up an outhouse and live in a plywood shack. As time went on the Las Vegans fleeing found refuge in this backward valley of freaks. They drive the 60 odd miles over the mountain range to worj every day, and it seems the massive influx of them has not changed the morans there one iota.

My parents left in 1996. Thank GOD they did.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 06:37 PM
Response to Reply #5
14. Isn't one of the economic mainstays a brothel? - n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 12:40 PM
Response to Reply #5
20. About the only highlight I know in Pahrump is a great winery/vineyard
but I hear that is now surrounded by McMansion developments. I think there are brothels there as we bought our registered Weimaraner from a woman in Pahrump who works at a brothel in the bar as a manager a couple of years ago.

There are some Pahrumpers who work at Yucca Mountain and the Nevada Test Site.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 02:23 PM
Response to Original message
6. now that little article makes my day.
pahrump's exercise in racism is having trouble flying it's flag.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 02:35 PM
Response to Original message
7. wonder if the Sheriff really looks like John Goodman did in the Studio 60
on Sunset strip episode a couple weeks ago


and here i thought Pahrump was a made up place :rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 03:05 PM
Response to Reply #7
9. Me, too! Pahrump is real??? nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 05:12 PM
Response to Reply #9
11. Art Bell is in Pahrump
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mahatmakanejeeves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 10:58 PM
Response to Reply #11
17. Art Bell
is in the Philippines now. He left "the Land of Nye" some time ago. As of last month, he's back to broadcasting every weekend.

Art Bell, Wikipedia

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
colorado_ufo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 12:15 PM
Response to Reply #9
19. I have Colorado friends who have family in Pahrump,
and moving to Colorado has not diminished their level of crazy. I am starting to think that there is something in the Pahrump water.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 05:52 PM
Response to Reply #7
12. Here's a photo of the Sheriff
Edited on Thu Nov-23-06 05:53 PM by ck4829
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 11:25 PM
Response to Reply #12
18. The Sheriff sort of reminds me of Andy Griffith. (nt)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 12:46 PM
Response to Reply #18
21. He sort of reminds me of Andy Warhol
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 04:15 PM
Response to Reply #21
22. All good men. (nt)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 06:24 PM
Response to Reply #7
13. I knew it existed ...

but it sure is funny to see life imitate art! Pretty good coincidence in choice of locale, that was.

Mind you, John Goodman was a redneck with a heart of gold ... just like the fundie Christian persona on the show doesn't really hate homos and struggles with all that stuff ... the art doing not such a great job of imitating life.



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 10:23 PM
Response to Reply #7
16. John Goodman played the judge not the sheriff I thought. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 04:37 PM
Response to Original message
23. "They probably thought..."
Doubt it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 19th 2024, 03:06 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC