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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 06:11 PM
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White House Says Iraq in 'New Phase' (not a Civil War, a New Phase, got it?)
TALLINN, Estonia - President Bush intensified diplomatic efforts on Monday to quell rising violence in Iraq and Afghanistan, turning to allies as his national security adviser said the conflict in Iraq had entered "a new phase" requiring changes.

"Obviously everyone would agree things are not proceeding well enough or fast enough," National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley told reporters aboard Air Force One as Bush flew eastward.

. . .

The adviser rejected suggestions that Iraq had already spiraled into a civil war and said it was unlikely Bush would address with the Iraqi leader the issue of any U.S. troop withdrawals. "We're not at the point where the president is going to be in a position to lay out a comprehensive plan," Hadley said.

http://www.rhinelanderdailynews.com/articles/2006/11/27/ap/headlines/d8llm7to0.txt
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 06:13 PM
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1. Have we turned another corner?
We've already turned so many corners I'm getting dizzy.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 06:14 PM
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3. I never realized circles had corners................until Iraq.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 05:15 AM
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21. It's a tetracontakaidigon, a 42-sided polygon
Because, after all, 42 is the answer to the question of life, the universe, and everything!!!
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 06:14 PM
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2. So, Hadley doesn't even try to spin that Bush has no plan?

"We're not at the point where the president is going to be in a position to lay out a comprehensive plan," Hadley said.


Must have been a slip...:eyes:


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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 06:15 PM
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4. Would that be the "completely fucked" phase?
Moving on from the "fairly moderately fucked" phase....
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 06:17 PM
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6. We're in the FUBAR phase. n/t
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 06:24 PM
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9. reamed steamed and dry cleaned phase
aka: totally fucked!
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 06:16 PM
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5. New phase
So that must translate to "We are so f*cked."

<"We're not at the point where the president is going to be in a position to lay out a comprehensive plan," Hadley said.>

So no timetable on a plan either? :sarcasm: These people continue to take us for idiots.

Mz Pip:dem:
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 03:43 AM
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18. New Phase? HAAAHAHHAHAAAHAA
must be a mis-speak and they really mean it's a "NEW PHRASE"

"We're not at the point where the president is going to be in a position to lay out a comprehensive plan," Hadley said.

3 yrs and 9 months after invading and bush isn't in a position to lay out a comprehensive plan???
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 06:19 PM
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7. Or running that through the crap detector
"He hasn't got a clue what do now."
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 06:22 PM
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8. It's called the Last Throes
silly :silly:
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 06:24 PM
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10. So we're done with the makin' progress and stay the course phases?
And this will be called the stuck in billion dollar shit phase?
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 06:32 PM
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11. Either or...
Edited on Mon Nov-27-06 06:33 PM by DearAbby
IT'S CIVIL WAR!

You are either preganant, or you're not...there are NO PHASES! :banghead:

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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 06:33 PM
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12. hmm. the new moon is completely black.
i guess that's what they mean.
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T Town Jake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 06:37 PM
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13. That means the 'Old Phase' must be in it's "last throes"...
...just like Unka Dick Cheney said about the insurgency a couple years back....

:sarcasm:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 07:24 PM
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15. and the new phase is called "advancing to the rear"!
Everyone knows that Iraq has an insurgency and a civil war at the same time. This is the most FUBAR situation since the disintegration of Yugoslavia.
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 06:40 PM
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14. To paraphrase The Who
"Meet the new phase, same as the old phase"
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 10:12 PM
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16. We're not at the point where the president
is going to be in a position to lay out a comprehensive plan,"

Hmm, a rather subtle change of phases, to say the least, that sounds *exactly* like the last phase...
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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 10:55 PM
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17. So now they're just shrugging their shoulders...
...and saying "Fuck, we don't have a clue."

Tell that to the men and women serving in Iraq, you morons. Tell THEM the president of the United States "is not at the point" where has a plan, comprehensive or not. After three years.

I am furious. Words fail.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 04:01 AM
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19. they're now hating each other for our freedoms
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 04:06 AM
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20. I always like to tour the South
and watch the "New Phase" Re-enactments, then there's Lincoln's "New Phase" Address in Gettysberg :)

Assholes.. SAY IT, SAAAY IT!! CIVIL WAR, Yep, and YOU CAUSED IT..
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 07:19 AM
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22. And Katrina was a tropical storm
.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 07:22 AM
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23. At this point..
Edited on Tue Nov-28-06 07:22 AM by sendero
... each time Bush and his minions publicly deny reality, it works against them. They have gotten so used to lying and spinning working in their favor, they have yet to realize this.

The American public sees that Iraq is in a full scale civil war. The denial just makes it clearer and clearer to more and more Americans that the Bush administrations is full of liars and deludiniods.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 07:36 AM
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24. What's the "new phase?" Something WORSE than civil war?
You've got the factions killing each other with a few garden variety terrorists from outside thrown in and that's it: "New Phase." If Dear Leader had an ounce of common sense he'd keep his pie hole shut.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 09:04 AM
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25. Did we pass the flowers stage and I missed it?
What do they call this new stage, it can't be "last throws"? I know it is called "Get Fucked" direct from Cheney's mouth.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 10:13 AM
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26. The many "phases" of Iraq....
shock and awe

mission accomplished

turned a corner

light at the end of the tunnel

new phase.

Now for the translation...

shock and awe - bomb the shit out of everything because we have no idea where saddam is hiding.

mission accomplished - a good way to show off morons* package in his overly snug fitting false bravado flight suit to a national audience.

turned corner - first realization that we didn't have enough troops.

Light at the end of the tunnel - things going to shit in a hurry

new phase - civil war. New phase? no shit.
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 10:42 AM
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27. just turning that corner again, and again, and again...
:puke:
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 11:42 AM
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28. the troops on the ground must be scratching their heads at the latest 'Snowspeak'
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:08 PM
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29. Watching Snow try to explain
the difference between a civil war and what is happening in Iraq was surrealistic TV yesterday. Apparently, it has to do with uniforms. If the opposing forces aren't dressed in distinguishable uniforms, it's not a civil war.
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