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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:12 AM
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Congressman calls Miami a `Third World country'
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"Rep. Tom Tancredo, the leader of the anti-illegal immigration faction in the U.S. House, spent a recent weekend at The Breakers in Palm Beach.

Ninety miles to the south, he found a symbol to bolster his belief that unfettered immigration is endangering the United States: Miami, he told a conservative online news site, "has become a Third World country."

In South Florida to attend Restoration Weekend, a gathering of conservative activists, the Colorado Republican, whose district includes suburbs of Denver, pointed to Miami as an example of how "the nature of America can be changed by uncontrolled immigration," the story says.

"Look at what has happened to Miami," the WorldNetDaily quotes Tancredo as saying in an interview. "It has become a Third World country. You just pick it up and take it and move it someplace. You would never know you're in the United States of America. You would certainly say you're in a Third World country."

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/16110727.htm
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:14 AM
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1. What was Miami's reaction?
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:20 AM
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5. This was just posted on the Herald website...
..and won't be in the paper until tomorrow morning. I imagine the reaction will not be favorable.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 09:30 AM
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20. That is the GOP's voter base down there... Miami Cubans
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:29 PM
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30. Hah.
Thank you, Tom. :)
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:54 PM
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33. Actually, I know several Cubans that feel that Miami has changed over the 10/15 yrs
Edited on Tue Nov-28-06 01:00 PM by demo dutch
and not for the better. It now has one of the highest poverty rates in the country.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:39 PM
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37. Large city, lots of poor people
Any location on earth... same problem
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mohinoaklawnillinois Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:15 AM
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2. Tom Tancredo needs a big cup of STFU..
Where did his family/ancestors immigrate to the US from?

I truly despise him and the rest of his ilk....
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:17 AM
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10. Where did his family/ancestors immigrate to the US from?
A place called HELL.
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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:44 PM
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31. Oh no. Let him keep talking.
Give him enough rope to hang all his gooper friends.
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:15 AM
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3. That guy is a racist asshat!
:grr:
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:19 AM
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11. they're coming out of the woodwork, aren't they?
:eyes: it's my opinion that the u.s. is THE most racist country in the world.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 08:40 AM
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16. Right.
There's an actual ongoing genocide in the Sudan, and the US is the most racist country in the world.

How long has it been since the end of Apartheid?

What's it like being a Korean in Japan?

Geez.
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LetsGoMurphys Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 08:52 AM
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17. totally absurd statement
attend a soccer game in europe and then re formulate that opinion.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 11:40 AM
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29. i don't agree
the u.s. has been racist since the very beginning, and still is. it's just "undercover", so people feel all warm and fuzzy. racism is still very much alive and well in the usa.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 04:08 AM
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42. Please see my post #16.
I really think you're barking up the wrong tree. Possibly even the wrong forest.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 03:40 PM
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47. ok, live in denial
Edited on Wed Nov-29-06 03:42 PM by shanti
that's the ticket :eyes: i'm quite aware of what is going on in other countries, and it goes way beyond racism.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 03:45 PM
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50. Your post doesn't make any sense.
Edited on Thu Nov-30-06 03:46 PM by yibbehobba
Are you seriously arguing that the way Koreans are treated in Japan is less racist than the way blacks are treated in the United States?

The US has a race problem. In large part, Japan doesn't even acknowledge that it has a problem.

This is one example. There are many others.
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LetsGoMurphys Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 08:32 AM
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44. George Allen
LOST IN VIRGINIA FOR BEING RACIST! THATS RIGHT VIRGINIA! Wake up.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:19 AM
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4. It's funny how openly racist this guy is.
Where's his freaking hood?
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:20 AM
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6. Go visit New Orleans.
Oh wait...there isn't one anymore.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:29 AM
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7. Hm. A Republican who is also a racist piece of trash. Who knew?
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:43 AM
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8. Miami HAS changed because of immigration, it's not like the US anymore.
Edited on Tue Nov-28-06 12:49 AM by lwfern
And we should all be thankful for that. I have more faith in immigrants than in any other group to force the changes we need in this country.

It's the first time that Wal-Mart has faced a worker-led revolt of such scale, according to both employees and the company. Just as surprising, the company quickly said it would change at least one of the practices that had sparked the protest. Late in the day on Oct. 16, there was some disagreement over which of the new policies would be put on hold.

The protest wasn't led by any union group. Rather, it was instigated by two department managers, Guillermo Vasquez and Rosie Larosa. The department managers were not affected directly by the changes, but they felt that the company had gone too far with certain new policies. Among them were moves to cut the hours of full-time employees from 40 hours a week to 32 hours, along with a corresponding cut in wages, and to compel workers to be available for shifts around the clock.

... Beginning last week, the two managers began talking with other employees, one at a time, getting their signatures in support of a protest. The demonstration may not have happened if not for the tight-knit nature of this predominantly Spanish-language community near Miami. At least 15 department managers joined the workers in speaking out against the new policies. "We are a Spanish-speaking community, some from Cuba, some from Venezuela and the Dominican Republic, and if something affects my brothers and sisters, it affects me," says Yahima Morales, who has been a department manager of health and beauty aids for four years at the store.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15305178/

This also seems like a good time to mention Camilo Mejia, First Iraq War Resister - and non US citizen, living in Miami. :)
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 09:51 AM
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23. Camilo Mejia is a friend of mine, I am proud to say
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:55 PM
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34. I know several Cubans who say Miami has changed over the last 10/15
Edited on Tue Nov-28-06 01:00 PM by demo dutch
years, and not for the better. It now has one of the highest poverty rates in the country.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:46 AM
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9. Tom speaks for the Republican Party.
He's one of their superstars....hope he gets the urge to run for President.
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 04:33 AM
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12. Tancredo/Allen The Men Of The Klan Ticket n/t
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 05:12 AM
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13. no, Lott/Allen in '08
"Putting the 'Whip' in Minority Whip since 2006"
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 08:18 AM
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14. But, but, the right wingers were so happy when the Cuban flag
was being waved in Miami to celebrate Castro's impending death.
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dogfacedboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 08:38 AM
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15. Ah yes, the Malcontent Minority...hard at work. n/t
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 09:00 AM
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18. Not that I want to agree with that asshat, but the Cuban exiles
wield WAY too much power there.

They've done their best to turn south Florida into their vision of Cuba: one run by the mob.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 09:57 AM
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24. Well, I have to agree with that asshat.
I grew up in Miami and spent a good deal of my life there. But it changed so much because of the Cubans that I finally became disgusted and moved up here to North Georgia. At least English is the dominant language here.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 11:22 AM
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25. Well, save your money for next year....
Edited on Tue Nov-28-06 11:29 AM by Bridget Burke
I'm sure the David Horwitz Freedom Center will plan another meeting of the minds. Eush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity & Ann Coulter were among the luminaries this year. Along with Tancredo....

www.horowitzfreedomcenter.org/

(Not your Confederate money, though.)

Edited to add: Tancredo might run for President in 2008!

The House Immigration Reform Caucus certainly has its share of hard-core xenophobes: One member, Rep. Steve King of Iowa, calls illegal immigration a "terrorist attack on the United States" and wants to erect an electrified fence to control Mexicans like livestock. But the founder of the caucus -- and the undisputed king of Republican bigotry -- is Tancredo, a dark-horse presidential contender for 2008. "He's got the best track record in Congress," raves Gordon Baum, head of the Council for Conservative Citizens, a "pro-white" group that lauds Tancredo for protecting America from a "full-scale invasion" of Latin immigrants.

Elected to the House in 1998, Tancredo has not only led the fight to deport every undocumented worker in America -- a proposal that would cost at least $200 billion -- but has called for halting all immigration, legal and otherwise. In one unforgettable move, Tancredo wanted to deport the family of an undocumented high school boy who was profiled in The Denver Post for his perfect grades.


www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/12054520/the_10_worst_congressmen/6





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Jimbo S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 09:21 AM
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19. Didn't Michael Moore write about this?
His second book, I believe, about how the anti-Castro Cubans now in Miami have too much influence and Miami is not the most desitable place to live.

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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 11:28 AM
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27. I don't know.... Did he?
No such book appears in Wikipedia's list of his works. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_moore#List_of_books

Tancredo has no problem with the politics of the anti-Castro Cubans. He's against most immigration--not just the "illegal" sort. Especially if the immigrants are not white enough for him.


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Jimbo S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 11:28 PM
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41. Downsize This!
Chapter 23 "Those Keystone Cubans"

I went back and reread the chapter. I was wrong. He didn't disparage the city of Miami, only the anti-Castro Cubans that fled to Miami.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 09:31 AM
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21. His Bio


TANCREDO, Thomas G., a Representative from Colorado; born in Denver, Denver County, Colo., December 20, 1945; graduated from Holy Family High School, Broomfield, Colo., 1964; B.A., University of Northern Colorado, Greeley, Colo., 1968; member of the Colorado state legislature, 1976-1981; appointed by President Reagan and re-appointed by President Bush as Secretary of Education Regional Representative, 1981-1992; elected as a Republican to the One Hundred Sixth Congress and to the three succeeding Congresses (January 3, 1999-present).
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 09:40 AM
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22. What An Ugly Ass Carrot! n/t
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 11:27 AM
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26. So why does he get blasted here but Rangel gets a pass for his Mississippi comment? nt
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 11:40 AM
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28. "But who wants to live there?" not in same league with "it's a third world country"
don't you think? The latter is not only more insulting, but carries an element of racism as well. You might ask, why aren't Republicans comdemning Tancredo with the same fervor that they condemned Rangel? Hmmmm?
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:47 PM
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32. Miami>Mississippi. eom
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 01:14 PM
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35. Well, let's see...
this guys a racist. He thinks brown people are unamerican.

Whereas Mississippi really is a dump.

There's the difference.
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 01:23 PM
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36. To blame Miami's problems on immigrants is absurd. R.E. developers enabled by gov. officials
have set Miami on a shortsided irresponsible course. And its common knowledge that the construction business is well served by illegal labor.
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 03:27 PM
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38. Tancredo For President!!!!
Then my district will be rid of him.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 03:33 PM
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39. Grandson of immigrants hates immigrants yet fails t see the irony. (nt)
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 05:59 PM
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40. I wonder what the fanatical
Cuban exile population in Miami thinks of these comments?

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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 05:19 AM
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43. visit certain sections of San Antonio
my hometown and I feel like I'm driving through a third world country too. Stray dogs and cats, lots of roadkill, tattered homes beat up cars etc. It pains me to see this BUT this comes from poverty,the lack of education and hopelessness not because of immigrants. :(
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 09:59 AM
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45. Dumbshit TANCREDO thus alienates the only segment of HIspanics
that are Rethugs (Cuban Exiles, the original generation). Bwa-hahahahahHAH!!!!1
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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 02:15 PM
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46. funny, I've always felt that way about the Panhandle
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Autobot77 Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 04:01 PM
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48. Translation: a lot of non-white immigrants

I heard this sentiment being expressed a couple times by anti-immigrant types about America in general. Saying the US or any state looks like a 3rd world country is repuke speak for " Gosh I wish we could get rid of all these brown immigrants, the white ones though are ok ".
On the other hand, this asshole really has the nerve to say this, because of Republican policies certain areas really do resemble thirs world countries, in terms of the level of poverty.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 11:39 PM
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49. Keep talking like that, Tom
You are ensuring that immigrants will become a solidly Democratic voting base for decades to come.

Keep trying to stir up your racist base. You are only making your party irrelevant.
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