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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:16 PM
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Pelosi 'sad' over Bush's Iraq representation

http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/blogs/politicalticker/2006/11/pelosi-sad-over-bushs-iraq_28.html

Pelosi 'sad' over Bush's Iraq representation

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- House Speaker-designate Nancy Pelosi, D-California, said Tuesday she feels "sad" President Bush blamed insurgent violence on al Qaeda while he dismissed notions Iraq is in a civil war.

"My thoughts on the president's representations are well-known," Pelosi told reporters while meeting with Deputy Italian Minister Francesco Rutelli. "The 9/11 Commission dismissed that notion a long time ago and I feel sad that the president is resorting to it again."

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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:18 PM
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1. "sad" -- a synonym for "pathetic"
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JudyM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:32 PM
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4. She said *she* feels sad... not that chimpie's statements are sad. This is curious.
Maybe it makes her sad that the American people are still being lied to. It's a curious use of the word.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:51 PM
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8. It's something a parent/adult would say to an undisciplined child
You know, the basic "I message,"..."I feel sad when you..."

Is Pelosi using child psychology on Chimpie?
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JudyM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 04:37 PM
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16. Maybe she wants to be sure he understands. But he won't... n/t
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:19 PM
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2. Damn, she's good!
I like her more every time she opens her mouth.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:25 PM
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3. ROFL-- "sad" = lame@ss loser n/t
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virgdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:35 PM
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5. Just watched MSNBC...
where they proceeded to disect Pelosi's comment. I feel "sad" for them that they don't get the subtext of what Pelosi really means when she says that she is "sad" about Bush's inability to grasp reality. I immediately understood that she really meant "sad" to mean pathetic. What we have here is the MSM's failure to communicate in any meaningful way what the public needs to hear about the failures and excesses of this administration. Really, too "sad" for us.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:43 PM
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6. Good point! Now I feel guilty for all the times I heard Tom Daschle
say 'it saddens me'....I get it now.

Let's focus on the thrust of her statements. She is calling him "on the carpet" for still lying! I am glad she brought up al Qaeda and 9/11.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:48 PM
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7. oh they get it -- they're just not going to present it the
way any literate adult would hear or read it.
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 07:23 PM
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12. Then let's use their framing...
It's "troubling".
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 07:49 PM
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13. yes -- when my mom used that tone of voice ...
... I soon learned that if I ignored her, she would almost instantaneously ramp up to a tongue-lashing I'd remember for a long time. When I talked to other kids, I learned that their moms could do it too!
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arewenotdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 02:54 PM
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9. Was this a misreading of Bush's statement?
Edited on Tue Nov-28-06 03:01 PM by arewenotdemo
The Commission would have dealt with the lack of plausibility of an Iraqi connection to 9/11, but how would it have dealt with al Qaeda-affiliated bombings in Iraq today?

Bush obviously wishes to deny the central facts and reality of the conflict and to place the blame entirely on foreign jihadists. That doesn't mean that jihadists aren't contributing to it.

Sorry if I'm missing something.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 03:39 PM
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10. No one cares anymore.
What Bush said may be correct in some vague, limit technical sense but is so besides the point that no one's willing to even treat it with minimal respect for reality, because they feel Bush has none himself.
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arewenotdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 04:05 PM
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11. The Politics of Shame?
Sounds good to me.
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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 09:15 PM
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14. It's not a big deal if dems twist words on intel
But, team Bush is worse then the devil so it is a big deal if they do it.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 04:59 PM
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17. * knows exactly what he is doing
when he blames the insurgency on al-Qaeda and Pelosi is right to call him on it.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 09:17 PM
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15. Ah...but you see Nancy is saying that it is clear that * is not
voluntarily going to participate in a bipartisan way...she is acknowledging that the gloves are coming off...if he wants to continue to play his childish games with our soldiers lives then she will have no choice but to push the investigations....

She is the right woman at the right time for the role of Speaker of the House...
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 08:26 AM
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19. Agreed.
I continue to be impressed by her. Baltimore is an old, Democratic town, and Speaker-elect Pelosi learned how to play politics from some of the best. I'm proud to have her leading the party.

:dem:

-Laelth
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 09:26 PM
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18. The problem for B*sh is that the facts are getting in the way. n/t
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