BBC Breaking : 5 Iraqi Girls Killed in Fight US vs Insurgents

[jannyk]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6193620.stm

[bling bling]

1. From the link:

"Five girls have been killed in Iraq during a clash between US marines and insurgents in the western city of Ramadi, the US has said.
A US military statement said militants on the roof of a house had fired on its forces, who responded with tank fire.

It said soldiers searching the building found the bodies of one man and the five girls, one of whom was an infant."

[aquart]

10. Damn. Damn. Damn.

[superconnected]

2. So sick.

Gotta wonder how they can live with themselves after killing 5 girls.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

3. stay the course? oh my gawd.

How can anyone left in IraqNam NOT hate us? How can we expect to create any stable government when we are causing so much pain and suffering?


of course, NOTHING on MSM in the US.

[xultar]

4. 100 bucks...this won't be reported by our effed up msm.

[spinbaby]

23. You betcha they won't report it

Just like they didn't report the downed plane yesterday. Watched two evening newscasts for some mention of the downed plane, but they had other important news instead. For instance, did you know Americans are fat?

[xchrom]

5. oh yeah -- that's going to go over well.

[CottonBear]

6. Five girls killed in Iraqi clash

Five girls killed in Iraqi clash

Five girls have been killed in Iraq during a clash between US marines and insurgents in the western city of Ramadi, the US has said.
A US military statement said militants on the roof of a house had fired on its forces, who responded with tank fire.

It said soldiers searching the building found the bodies of one man and the five girls, one of whom was an infant.

Ramadi, 115km (70 miles) west of Baghdad, is located in Anbar province, a stronghold for Sunni militants.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6193620.stm

[uppityperson]

7. oh damnitall. RIP, my condolences and none of this helps anything except

those who make money off of war.

[qanda]

8. Stories like this make me cringe

Just when you think it can't get much worse.

[caledesi]

9. Stop the Insanity! I can't take it anymore. Every fvcking day. nt

[sabra]

11. Bush says he won't pull troops out of Iraq "before the mission is complete."

:mad:

[partylessinOhio]

12. This is happening while the big blowhard is running his mouth that

he won't withdraw from Iraq in his speech in Riga, Latvia.

Isn't anyone else embarrassed by his posturing while demanding help from other countries? He could have made his remarks in the US and saved a ton of jet fuel and millions of tax payer's dollars.

[theHandpuppet]

13. Winning hearts and minds in Iraq every damned day

I hope a seat in The Hague is being kept warm.

[yellowcanine]

14. "five girls, one of whom was an infant." Looks as if we are now into killing everyone and letting

God sort them out, in the supposed infamous words of Abbot Arnold Amaury.

[mom cat]

15. One man with a gun, and the response it to destroy the whole house

with five little girls inside.

[jannyk]

16. CNN just reported it as

six civilians killed in a clash between US and insurgents. No mention of 5 of them being female children.

[Barrett808]

17. AP says "five females ranging in age from an infant to teenagers"

Probably echoing the Pentagon phrasing:

Gunbattle in Iraq leaves 6 Iraqis dead

BAGHDAD, Iraq - U.S. Marines fought with suspected insurgents in Ramadi on Tuesday, and the battle left six Iraqis dead, including five females ranging in age from an infant to teenagers, the U.S. military said.

The fighting began after a coalition patrol discovered a roadside bomb in the Hamaniyah section of Ramadi, and two men fled to a house, where they took up positions on the roof, the military said.

As coalition forces removed the bomb, the suspected insurgents opened fire on the U.S. Marines, who fought back with machine guns and tanks, the statement said.

Afterward, coalition forces searched the house and found the six bodies, the military said. Another female also was wounded but refused treatment, it said.

One of the gunmen may have been wounded and removed from the scene by other militants, the statement said, adding that there were no coalition casualties.

The military quoted residents as saying the building "was a known anti-Iraqi force safe house."

Ramadi, 70 miles west of Baghdad, is located in Anbar province, where many Sunni-Arab insurgent groups are based. It has been the scene of some of the fiercest fighting between Marines and insurgents.

"In a very tragic way, today reminds us that insurgents' actions throughout Iraq are felt by all," said Marine Lt. Col. Bryan Salas, a military spokesman. "Efforts are under way to coordinate and offer available assistance to surviving family members."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061128/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_ramadi_attack

[magellan]

27. "today reminds us that insurgents' actions throughout Iraq are felt by all"

Which just goes to prove how well our military is learning -- from the Israelis. Pass the ammo and pass the buck.

:mad:

[Nihil]

29. Winning hearts and minds again. You can see why they're loved so much.

> One of the gunmen may have been wounded and removed from the scene
> by other militants, the statement said,

I love these "missing guilty person" reports. So convincing.

> The military quoted residents as saying the building
> "was a known anti-Iraqi force safe house."

As only Iraqis were killed & injured and the killing/injuring was done
by non-Iraqis, it necessarily follows that the real anti-Iraqi forces
were the ones in the tank ...

[EFerrari]

18. We're killing babies and children.

[krispos42]

19. It's a no-win situation

We don't know yet if the man on the roof had a rifle or an RPG, so I'll withhold judgement on the appropriateness of firing the main gun, BUT:

Tank commanders usually drive with their torsos sticking out of the turret hatch, so they can see. The man on the roof may have been shooting at the tank commander, forcing him to duck inside the tank. If the hatch was still open, that leaves the possibility of bullets entering the tank and ricocheting around, or a Molotov cocktail or hand grenade through hatch, giving the crew a good reason to take out the shooter ASAP.

If the guy on the roof had fired an RPG and missed, he might well have been reloading or grabbing another loaded RPG. An RPG shot into the thinner top armor of a tank might well penetrate the armor, so the tank crew has a powerful incentive to take out the threat as quickly as possible, and the main gun on a small building will do that, in spades.

Damn Bush for getting us in this in the first place, and damn that shooter for putting the tank crew in this situation!

[Tempest]

20. According to Bush, there is no fighting outside of Baghdad

NBC's First Read reports that the response was swift: "The White House is objecting this morning to descriptions of the Iraq conflict as a civil war. National Security Council spokesman Gordon Johndroe said, 'The violence is primarily centered around Baghdad and Baghdad security and the increased training of Iraqi Security Forces is at the top of the agenda when meet later this week.'"

[jannyk]

21. BBC says eldest was 10

""The youngest female casualty was six-months-old and the eldest was aged 10. Another female at the scene was injured but refused treatment, the statement said.""

[Eugene]

22. Official spin: The insurgents made this happen.

(Reuters)

Battle leaves six Iraqis, including 5 girls, dead
28 Nov 2006 20:50:18 GMT
Source: Reuters

-snip-

"In a very tragic way, today reminds us that insurgents' actions throughout Iraq
are felt by all," said military spokesman Marine Lt. Col. Bryan Salas. "Efforts
are under way to coordinate and offer available assistance to surviving family
members."

-snip-

Full article: http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L28297932.htm

[Karenina]

26. WSSOP

Blame the victims.

[DrDan]

24. may these bastards rot in hell

[AussieDave]

25. And the Freeper response ??

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1745385/posts

To: james500

How about that....the Dems advocate the killing of babies in the U.S.


5 posted on 11/28/2006 1:53:43 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Voted Free Republic's Most Eligible Bachelor: 2006. Love them Diebold machines.)

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Plus a discussion on how to make the post less cluttered and hoe al-Jazeera compares to CNN.

Freeper Values..........

[BeHereNow]

28. Good God...what have we become?

Killing innocent children.
When are the American people going to demand
an end to this madness.
Do you know ONE American who would say
this is okay?
I sure a s hell don't.
Too bad our calls to Congress fall on deaf ears.
BHN:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: