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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 03:41 PM
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(Zogby Poll): U.S. Hispanic Voters Abandon GOP

http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20061128005921&newsLang=en

Zogby/Hispanic PR Wire Poll: U.S. Hispanic Voters Abandon GOP
Heated Debate over Immigration Earlier This Year May Have Soured Some Hispanic American Voters on the Republican Party; Top Hispanic Concerns Mirror Those of Nation at Large

UTICA, N.Y.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Just two years after 40% of Hispanic Americans voted for Republican President George W. Bush’s reelection, far fewer say they think the Republican Party understands them best, a new Zogby/Hispanic PR Wire telephone poll shows.

Barely one in five Hispanic voters – 23% – said they felt the Republican Party understands them best, compared to 56% who said they think Democrats know them better, the new survey shows.

The Zogby/Hispanic PR Wire poll, conducted Nov. 17–20, 2006, included 903 respondents, 737 of which were voters in the Nov. 7 general election. The poll carries a margin of error of +/– 3.7 percentage points.

Even among Hispanics who said they were themselves Republicans, just 76% said they thought the GOP understood them best. Another 8% said the Libertarian Party best understood them, 7% thought Democrats knew them better, while 10% of Republicans said that either another party better understood them, or that they were unsure. Among Democratic Hispanics, 83% said their own party better understood them, while 4% said Republicans understood them best. Another 7% of Democrats said other minor parties had the best understanding of them, while 7% were uncertain.


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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 03:53 PM
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1. Why would have any of them been there in the first place? n/t
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Sapere aude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 03:56 PM
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2. Religion, abortion, gays
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 12:05 AM
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 09:56 AM
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15. Funny, there have been women in the highest offices all over
Latin America. Their sexism must be different than our sexism.
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Say_What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 10:10 AM
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16.  Presidente Michel Bachelet appointed 50% of women in every level of government

President of the Republic of Chile
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Cobalt-60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 04:42 PM
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3. The pukes are hoist by their own petard
They wanted the Mexicans here for cheap labor.
They did everything but install a new rail line across the border to facilitate their entry into the US.
And they apparently held the view that they would fall right into line behind the Republicans.
Apparently this was based on stereotypical view of Mexican Catholics.
When the Mexicans got here a triple blast of slave labor, social contempt, and political betrayal showed them what the Pukes are really made of.
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Kikosexy2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 04:56 PM
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4. Just mention the name...
"Pete Wilson" and that really gets them pissed...hell...Pete Wilson is Republiscum and always will be...Good to see more of my peeps waking up...
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 04:58 PM
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5. It'smore than just that-they use them as scapegoats and race bait
and then wonder why they can't get their vote or the vote of people who look a lot like them.

The Republicans are going to have a hard time cutting W adrift as well while still not having to admit that everything they rubber stamped has gone horribly wrong.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 05:03 PM
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6. This was predictable. "Wedge" issues cut two ways. And as Pete Wilson found out in
California, playing the immigrant card can backfire big time with Hispanic voters.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 07:23 PM
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7. GOP reacts with fear of hispanic immigration and how it will affect their base.. in the south..
Edited on Tue Nov-28-06 07:24 PM by applegrove
and alienates the voting hispanics today. LOL. If it wasn't so sad I would have ROTFLMAO.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 12:09 PM
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17. They had foolishly thought that Mel Martinez in the RNC chairman seat was enough
Not so. The hispanic vote scared them so badly in Texas they gerrymandered it out of influence. Even that over time won't be enough.

Yes, I can find humor in their attempt to raise up the fastest growing block of voters as a boogeyman. I'm thrilled to see it bit them in the butt. Bigoted fools that they are, this is justice.
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 12:47 AM
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9. Good news
I was disappointed to see the apparent inroads Shrub and co. had made with Hispanics in '04 but it looks like too many of the knuckle-dragger 'pugs let their racist true colors show in the discussions of the illegal immigration issue that Karl Rove and his boys were so antsy to have be the major issue of this elections season. That one seems to have backfired on them.

One funny thing with the poll: I'm surprised there are a decent percentage who are a member of a party that don't feel best represents them. I'm biased, but I guess I can say to an extent, a Hispanic person who votes Repug due to strong views on abortion or another particular issue but still acknowledges that the Dems best represent their interests. But I'm trying to figure out why someone would consider themself to be a Dem but claim the Repugs best represent their interests...
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 12:51 AM
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10. Those "inroads" turned out to be a fabrication. Junior did no
better in 04 among Latinos than he did in 2000.
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 01:07 AM
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11. That's interesting
Now that you mention it, I do recall hearing that the initial reports of dramatic gains among Hispanics by the 'pugs in '04 had been exaggerated. (I remember initial claims that Shrub had actually won the Hispanic vote in TX by a decent margin, but later heard that Kerry had actually narrowly won. It was a pretty decent swing, though, in terms of the initially, reported inaccurate numbers, and the final, correct ones.) I had still assumed that he had managed some gains, mostly due to all the early reports on the subject. That's good that he actually didn't, because it shows there isn't a long-term trend among Hispanics in the Repugs' favor.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 09:45 AM
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13. Nope and there won't be. Remember that after the theft of 2004
they claimed all kinds of things and at the same time. Younger voters didn't vote, Latinos voted for Bush, and my favorite, "values voters" elected Bush. Well, not true and no one has ever been able to find a contingent of "values voters" that would give Junior the numbers he needed to win.

Regardless of the social conservatism, Latinos seem to vote their pocketbook, not their religion. (That Falwellian sense of entitlement to shove your values down other people's throats seems to be missing if not, in general, anathema in our culture.)

And as far as the "rampant sexism", the United States has yet to have a woman in the Oval Office and there have been women in the highest offices all over Latin America. :)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 09:53 AM
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14. Here's one source that talks about 2004:
“The 2004 WCVI National Latino Election Day Exit Poll”

Dr. Henry Flores, PhD
St. Mary’s University

All data presented is election day minus absentee ballots

Introduction

There has been disagreement as to the levels of national Latino support enjoyed by both President Bush and Senator Kerry in the 2004 Presidential elections. The National Election Poll (NEP) and Los Angles Times exit polls indicated that 44% and 45% of the Latino electorate respectively voted for President Bush on election-day. However, sample design flaws have called those findings into question.

The William C. Velásquez Institute (WCVI), the non-profit, non-partisan sister organization of the Southwest Voter Registration and Educational Project (SVREP), founded by Willie Velasquez in 1985 conducted the first national exit poll of Latinos on November 2, 2004. Never before in the history of presidential exit polls had an organization conducted a poll exclusively of Latino voters. The findings of this historical poll contradicted those of the NEP and Los Angles Times. The WCVI poll found that only 33.0% of Latinos queried on election-day voted for President Bush while 65.4% supported Senator Kerry. Another 1.4% of Latinos polled indicated that they had cast their votes for Ralph Nader and his vice-presidential running mate.

What was most important about the WCVI findings was not that they differed greatly from those of the NEP and LA Times polls, but that they only varied slightly from five other pre-election polls. Additionally, these findings indicate that Latinos had changed their voting patterns little since the 2000 general election. In 2000 both the WCVI and an independent research source found that President Bush had received only 35% of the Latino national vote. When factoring in the margin of error for both polls the 2004 findings of 33.0% support for President Bush indicate that Latinos had continued to vote in the same manner as they had historically.



http://www.wcvi.org/latino_voter_research/polls/national/2004/flores.html
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 01:07 AM
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12. No surprise here (nt)
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Massachusetts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 12:53 PM
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18. Doesn't say much for the intelligence of many Hispanic voters
"40% of Hispanic Americans voted for Republican President George W. Bush’s reelection"
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 10:46 PM
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19. While you're slurring Hispanics, did you bother to read the thread?
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