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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 01:35 AM
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Richards isn't really Jewish, publicist admits
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15937228/site/3000001/from/RS.5/

Just when it seemed Michael Richards was about to leave the most troubling incident of his career behind, his publicist is having to explain how the comic could consider himself to be Jewish.

Last week, crisis-management expert Howard Rubenstein acknowledged that Richards had shouted anti-Semitic remarks in an April standup comedy routine — well before his appearance earlier this month in which he harangued hecklers with the n-word. But he defended Richards’ language about Jews, saying that the comic “is Jewish. He’s not anti-Semitic at all. He was role-playing.”

As Rubenstein’s assertion circulated, Jewish organizations and commentators pointed out that the man who played Cosmo Kramer on “Seinfeld” has not converted to Judaism and neither of his parents are Jewish.

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“Technically, not having been born by blood as Jewish and not formally going into a conversion, it was purely his interpretation of having adopted Judaism as his religion,” Rubenstein told The Associated Press on Tuesday. “He told me, ‘I’m Jewish,’ when I asked him.

“He said there were two mentors who raised him and who had a big influence on his life, and they were Jewish. He said, ‘I agree with the concepts and the religious beliefs of Judaism and I’ve adopted Judaism as my religion,”’ Rubenstein said. “He really thinks of himself as Jewish.”




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Azathoth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 01:39 AM
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1. And the hole Richards is digging for himself gets a little deeper
At this point, Richards would be better off if he just pulled a Dave Chappelle and disappeared without a trace for a year.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 01:43 AM
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4. Better yet, how about he keeps a low-profile for the next 3 years,
...and then returns to show business.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 01:41 AM
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2. So the word here is "Philosemite"
If neither of his parents are Jewish and he hasn't converted, then he's not Jewish. But if he's a big fan, then that's fine, it just doesn't mean he's actually Jewish.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 01:48 AM
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5. wasn't there a Seinfeld episode about a guy who wants to become Jewish
... so he can piggyback on the "great comedian" stereotype?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 01:51 AM
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6. the dentist, right?
when people objected they were called "anti-dentite" :rofl:
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progdonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 01:58 AM
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9. by Kramer no less!
Kramer: "You know what you are? You're an anti-dentite! The next thing you'll be saying is that they should have their own schools."

Jerry: "They do have their own schools!"

Classic moment. :rofl:
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darkism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 02:02 AM
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12. ...and for the joke-telling immunity. n/t
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 01:42 AM
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3. Richards is willing to embarass Jews by bogusly counting himself as one,
...to avoid being considered both racist and anti-semitic.


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tomhayes Donating Member (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 01:51 AM
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7. Wow, who really cares?
So what if he didn't go through the strict rules fo tthe Jewish church? He can have his faith be whatever he wants. (It's still all make believe anyway.)
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 02:01 AM
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11. not exactly....
Judaism is more than a faith. There's a whole tribalistic thing, too. People can convert, but they have to prove their intentions to a council of rabbis by learning the traditions and practicing hallacha.

Remember, bona fide Jews are considered instantly eligible for Israeli citizenship. It isn't something Jews, at least, would take lightly.
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tomhayes Donating Member (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 02:25 AM
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14. Yeah, like I said : Who Cares?
It's still all made up anyways.

And it wouldn't make an outburst against jews any better.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 05:27 AM
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16. and, like I answered, Jews care
Edited on Wed Nov-29-06 05:29 AM by 0rganism
Of course it's all made up anyways. That doesn't make it any more or less important.

Just like the border between Mexico and the US is all made up anyways. Lo and behold, people still care, they risk life and limb to cross it.

Just like the notion of common law is all made up. Amazing, people still care, they care enough to put those who disregard it in cages.

All made up -- citizenship, democracy, social contracts, ethics, aesthetics, virtue, vice, love, hate, friendship, enmity, all complete fabrications. And all, apparently, worth caring for -- to someone.

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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 11:46 AM
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22. Perfect answer.
Nicely done.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 10:35 AM
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20. Thank you for explaining that

I appreciate getting educated about various religions.

The sooner we all understand that we live in a melting pot and are willing to learn about the ingrediants, the better we will all be.
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Ecumenist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 07:36 AM
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18. Welcome to DU TomHayes...
Edited on Wed Nov-29-06 07:37 AM by Ecumenist
:hi: Right glad to have ya here; every new member is a gift and an exoneration BUT I have to correct you on a few VERY important things... Jews DO NOT ATTEND CHURCHES, they worship in Synagogues or Temples. Secondly, Judaism is a faith governed by ritual and law, as well as faith and belief. The Law of Moses, keeping Kosher, etc. So, it's not a matter of Richards doing his "faith the way he wants", contrary to what you and many others may want to believe. It ain't that easy.
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 12:33 PM
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25. Jews are a potentially vulnerable and stigmatizable group, even in the US...
For a stigmatizable minority, it matters if some assclown is falsely claiming kinship with you while deliberately alienating much of society. Worse still if said assclown points to this assumed identity as the wellspring of his outrageous behavior.
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 01:55 AM
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8. WTF? Just so he doesn't convert to Texanism, like *!
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 02:00 AM
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10. Kramer the Anti-dentite
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 02:20 AM
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13. hey, maybe he's black too? n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 02:48 AM
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15. Let's treat him to a DNA test so he can figure out who he can insult
-- if anyone is still listening which seems unlikely.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 06:15 AM
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17. Kramer could have done some good, as an anti-Bushite..









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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 09:48 AM
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19. Stick a fork in him. He's done. nt
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 10:44 AM
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21. Oh my...
Doesn't the media have anything better to do -- this whole thing was 'finished' last week.

Now it's just getting sad, pathetic, irrelevant...
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booksenkatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 12:02 PM
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23. He's Jewish in the same way that Cheney is a Texan. nt
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 12:18 PM
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24. Ha! I KNEW it!
No, Richards isn't Jewish -- which is why I questioned the ADL's statement on Richards' lynching diatribe: it just seemed that too many people might see "ADL", remember Richards' work on Seinfeld, and promptly draw the wrong conclusion. Which could lead to more needless friction and hard feelings between groups -- or at any rate, it wouldn't help matters any.

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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 12:37 PM
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26. What?
Why did you question the ADL's statement on Richard's diatribe?
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 12:47 PM
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27. my previous posts in this thread explain my concerns...
Mind you, if people were under the mistaken impression that Richards is Jewish, that's not only the result of a false inference from the characters he's played and the ADL statement; it seems that Richards has been deliberately promoting that particular false impression himself.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 12:52 PM
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28. Have you ever seen Richards and George Macaca Allen
in the same place at the same time?

Well, have you? :tinfoilhat:
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