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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 01:24 PM
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U.S.-Iraq Summit Put Off Until Thursday
(11-29) 10:18 PST AMMAN, Jordan (AP) --


President Bush's high-stakes summit with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki was put off Wednesday after public disclosure of U.S. doubts about his capacity to control sectarian warfare.


The White House said the two leaders would meet on Thursday.


The postponement was announced shortly after Bush arrived here for talks with King Abdullah II and al-Maliki. Bush's meeting with the king was to proceed on schedule.


White House counselor Dan Bartlett denied that the move was a snub by al-Maliki or was related to the leak of a White House memo questioning the prime minister's capacity for controlling violence in Iraq.

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URL: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/n/a/2006/11/29/international/i101329S97.DTL

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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 01:33 PM
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1. Trash Talk = Bush Diplomacy
What a maroon.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 01:41 PM
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2. just heard on Fox...King of Jordan & *'s meeting and photo op canceled
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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 01:42 PM
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3. Leaked memo quoting Stephen Hadley? Very interesting.
The Cheney cabal is mobilized. A strongman is coming soon.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 01:46 PM
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5. That memo wasn't leaked
You know what I mean, Vern?

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mikeytherat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 01:45 PM
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4. Very interesting phrasing here:
"President Bush's high-stakes summit with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki was put off Wednesday after public disclosure of U.S. doubts about his capacity to control sectarian warfare."

Who's "capacity to control sectarian warfare?" Bush's or al-Maliki's?

mikey_the_rat
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 03:29 PM
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11. Based on Bush's previous statements, they mean Maliki's.
Because Bush is putting the responsibility on Maliki, which many DU'ers disagree with, I should add
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SutaUvaca Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 01:56 PM
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6. It doesn't take but a moment
Edited on Wed Nov-29-06 01:58 PM by SutaUvaca
to figure out that the leaked Hadley memo is just a key item in the framing of Maliki as the sole person responsible for the civil war: "You see, it wasn't Chumpster and Co. being incompetent greedy bastards, it's all Maliki's fault."

Chenushleezafeld will never have any fault in this bloody fuckup.


Edit to spell Chenushleezafeld correctly.
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Retrograde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 02:42 PM
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7. and guess who's not coming to dinner?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061129/ts_nm/iraq_dc_89: Bush's dinner with Maliki cancelled, but that's OK. As Bartlett said, "It was going to be more of a social meeting anyway".

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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 03:24 PM
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10. You get the feeling
that none of them give a shit what the US thinks or says anymore. Iraq's neighbors are taking matters into their own hands.

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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 02:57 PM
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8. You don't suppose this had anything to do with it?
Iraq, Iran Reach Agreement on Security

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2634515

"We discussed in the fields of security, economy, oil and industry. Our agreement was complete," Talabani told reporters. "This visit was 100 percent successful. Its result will appear soon."
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 03:21 PM
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9. Sheesh....and I thought it was all because al Sadr is the true culpret behind
all the violence and Bushie was meeting to figure out a way to deal with him like they did with Zarqawi. :shrug:

Must be more to this than Cheney telling Hadley to "release document."

Foreign Policy in more disarray as State Dempartment leaks while P-Resident is on his huge Diplomacy Mission to save his sorry butt.
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 12:32 AM
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12. Maliki postpones Bush summit after memo leak
Iraq's prime minister, Nuri al-Maliki, postponed a a meeting in Jordan with George Bush yesterday after a leaked White House memo revealed deep US misgivings about Mr Maliki's willingness or ability to curb sectarian violence. The 12-hour delay was officially to allow Mr Bush the chance to have a bilateral meeting with the host, Jordan's King Abdullah, but White House officials were forced to assure Mr Maliki that he still had the US president's confidence.

The memo - leaked to the New York Times and confirmed as accurate by administration officials - exposed a relationship of mutual dependence clouded by distrust and strained by the steadily escalating civil war inside Iraq.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1960358,00.html
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 12:32 AM
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13. So, Iraq's prime minister, Nuri al-Maliki is not enough of a puppet
....for the Bush administration to manipulate and do their bidding in Iraq.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 12:32 AM
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14. The evolving headline of this story...
"Maliki Snubs Bush"

How delectable!
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 12:32 AM
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15. More like A deliberate LEAK!...
a strategic plan for Iraq gets leaked and Cheney is virtually mum..
not a peep from the WH in outrage...boy, oh boy, you guys are slippin'..

More than a puppet...seems like this guy is the setup as the scapegoat..
if positive results do not materialize out of far flung failure.

Maliki should tell Bush..Listen buster, you created this mess what do you expect me to do with it?
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 01:02 AM
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16. U.S.-Iraq summit abruptly canceled
AMMAN, Jordan - President Bush's high-profile meeting with Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki on Wednesday was canceled in a stunning turn of events after disclosure of U.S. doubts about the Iraqi leader's capabilities and a political boycott in Baghdad protesting his attendance.

Instead of two days of talks, Bush and al-Maliki will have breakfast and a single meeting followed by a news conference on Thursday morning, the White House said.

The abrupt cancellation was an almost unheard-of development in the high-level diplomatic circles of a U.S. president, a king and a prime minister. There was confusion — and conflicting explanations — about what happened.

Bush had been scheduled to meet in a three-way session with al-Maliki and Jordan's King Abdullah II on Wednesday night, and had rearranged his schedule to be in Amman for both days for talks aimed at reducing the spiral of violence in Iraq.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061130/ap_on_re_mi_ea/bush
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 01:02 AM
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17. They are supposed to meet again in a few hours
Heard anything about that meeting?
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 01:02 AM
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20. The guy on Nightline said ABC will ........
carry the press conference live at 2:45 am EST. In about 2 hours from now.

I'm sleepy and need to be up early tomorrow but am really tempted to stay up for that.
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jannyk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 01:02 AM
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18. Shoot, I thought you meant Thur's Summit
the Weds meeting was cancelled this morning (and posted on LBN several times)
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PSPS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 01:02 AM
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19. "almost unheard-of development in the high-level diplomatic circles of a U.S. president"
I find is hard to comprehend how the media still treats this clown as if he has any legitimacy at all!

It's mind boggling how we've come to a point where the only people who don't realize that the US has a fraud acting as president are in the US.
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blue agave Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 01:02 AM
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21. Ruh Roh ! ... Iraq, Iran reach agreement on security
By NASSER KARIMI, Associated Press Writer Wed Nov 29, 1:25 PM ET

TEHRAN, Iran -
Iraq's president said Wednesday he had reached a security agreement with
Iran, which the United States accuses of fueling the chaos in the war-torn country. Iran's president called on countries to stop backing "terrorists" in Iraq and for the Americans to withdraw.

Presidents Jalal Talabani of Iraq and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran held talks Wednesday hours before U.S.
President George W. Bush was due to meet with the Iraqi prime minister in Jordan in talks aimed at finding a solution to Iraq's spiraling bloodshed.

"We discussed in the fields of security, economy, oil and industry. Our agreement was complete," Talabani told reporters. "This visit was 100 percent successful. Its result will appear soon."

<http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061129/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_iraq>
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 01:03 AM
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22. Stalin signs Non-Aggression Pact with Churchill!
Hitler furious.
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dicknbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 01:18 AM
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23. THis is really geting scarry and sad.....Bush is way out of his league
I wouldn't be surprised if El Malaki tells the US to leave post Haste! I read a quote from Joe WIlson yesterday that said soemthing to the effect that he hopes we don't have to fight our way out of Iraq the way things are going. Bush has screwed us so bad. The power players in the world are evolving and at the end of this fiasco the US is going to be in a much weaker position theen when we started on this unbelivable disaster. It really is scarry. Bush can't run the country he is out of options and it wouldn't surprise me if some form of provisianl government is going to have to take over until his term is ended or he resigns along with cheney and the Dems are given comploete control of the government. Perhaps a scenario would be that Bush and Cheny agree to step down with the proviso that new magement comes in and runs things till the end of his term but they agree not to run for office. So it would look something like this. Bush and Cheney agree to exit if say some one like Hagel or even Specter or some more thoughtful Republican takes the reigns until Jan 20th 2009. Once these clowns are out of the way some form of real negtiation could begin that would enable us to get out with looking to weak. At this point I am getting very concerned about the rise of China and how they could be the major player in the Middle east especailly as it pertains to the oil. There market is as demanding as ours and the jprodusers won't care who they seel it to as lon g as their currency is strong.

What a mess!
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mallard Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 01:36 AM
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26. Re: agenda issues
"I wouldn't be surprised if El Malaki tells the US to leave post Haste."

I think you've figured it out - thank you!
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dicknbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 01:24 AM
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24. This quote of Churchills regarding starting a war has been haunting me...
"Never, never, never believe any war will be smooth and easy, or that anyone who embarks on the strange voyage can measure the tides and hurricanes he will encounter. The statesman who yields to war fever must realize that once the signal is given, he is no longer the master of policy but the slave of unforeseeable and uncontrollable events." -
  --  Winston Churchill
 
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dicknbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 01:31 AM
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25. The other monster Bush has created is this:
Now that it seems we are on the verge of losing both Afghanistan and Iraq to rag tag armies of irregulars who are devoted to "Allah" it will be in my opinion a psychological victory over the west that could effect history for the next 100 years and perhaps even more. Remember how America felt after world War II....KING OF THE HILL MA!!!! We felt empowered we felt invincible we felt like we were destined to lead the world. When we are forced to leave Iraq with our tail between our legs it will be seen by muslims around the world that their God is the right GOd and that our god is a loser.

We are really fucked!
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