Schwarzenegger breaks his leg while skiing

[Newsjock]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16342035/

SUN VALLEY, Idaho - California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger broke his leg while skiing with his family Saturday morning, a spokesman said.

Schwarzenegger was taken to a local hospital for X-rays and was soon discharged with a fracture to his right femur, said Adam Mendelsohn, the governor's Deputy Chief of Staff for Communications.

Schwarzenegger would have surgery to repair his femur when he returns to Los Angeles from his scheduled Christmas trip, Mendelsohn said. The governor remained at his Sun Valley home Saturday night and still planned to spend the holiday there.

[trumad]

The Terminator's gettin old

[Warpy]

30. All those years of anabolic steroids

are now hitting him back.

Fractures like that can have a lot of really serious complications, even death from emboli.

But never fear, he's got the best medical care the taxpayers of California can afford.

[Joe Bacon]

47. Yep, and his health insurance pays 100% of the bills

Yet, he'll come back here limping on hsi girly man crutches to veto Single Payer again.

[BrklynLiberal]

59. No doubt about THAT!!!! Better coverage that 99% of other Americans.

[Joe Bacon]

86. And he will continue to veto SIngle Payer!

The pimps running the health insurance extorters here gave over $4 million to this whore, and he's worth every penny. He keeps vetoing Single payer bills.

And we're stuck with this whore until 2010.

[earlybelle]

48. No fool like an old fool.

[Bonobo]

1. Broke his femur? Yeowch! He-man or not, the must have smarted!!

[Richard D]

2. Ouch!

Poor guy, that must have hurt like hell.

The comedians'll have fun with that one, I think.

[Solo_in_MD]

3. What is it with Repuke politicians from the entertainment industry and skiing?

[Cleita]

4. Sun Valley is a playground of the rich surrounded by the poor

families who do the work so they can recreate. Most of these families have to get food stamps and live in trailers even in the cold of winter so they can do the seasonal work they have to live off of all year long. I would like to feel more sympathetic but I can't.

[Straight Shooter]

23. That's the truth.

I've only been there once, and I was absolutely stunned at the impoverished neighborhoods, just before you get to this unbelievable panorama of houses that were just absolutely huge. And the stores, the status cars. Holy crap.

I will say, though, that the people I met there were very nice. I was just on a visit there with an acquaintance and never went back.

[Erika]

29. Yep. Rich Wood River Valley Homes

compared to cheap residences for the service workers.

At least Bruce Willis is gone. He, without permission, changed the channel of the river and black topped his driveway to do so.

[Erika]

27. Yep. The service industry is living in almost ghetto surroundings

The tax breaks to the rich never filtered down. You've got the mega rich serviced by the mega poor.

Idaho is a red state.

[nine30]

67. and so...

..what do you suggest be done to remedy the disparity ?

[Cleita]

81. Support Democratic politicians who are running there against

the fat cat Republicans who have the money for the ads and fat cat campaigns that the Democrats running, who are usually union working class types, can't. If a Democrat were able to get the truth out and contradict all the lies the Republicans tell to get the populace to vote against their own best interest, you would see the state turn blue.

[nine30]

87. The question is..

.. how can you improve conditions in the ghetto surroundings, and how can you reduce disparity between the rich and the poor?

[Cleita]

88. I thought I made it clear that you have to influence the legislators.

Otherwise. :shrug:

[nine30]

89. and what are the legislators going to do ?

I don't see how legislation is going to make any difference. Did you mean forcing businesses to pay their employees more ?Even so, businesses cannot be forced to pay more than the minimum wage. And at minimum wage the poor still remain poor and the rich remain rich.

[Cleita]

91. They can raise the mimimum wage over the federal minimum

wage just like they have in other states in the past. They can bring in universal health care. They can legislate for decent and affordable housing for the working poor. Not only that they can bring back the jobs to Idaho that have been outsourced.

That's what they can do. Idaho is rich in natural resources and a responsible and liberal government can make sure all the profits get spread to the people and not a few out of state corporations.

[nine30]

93. How much is enough ?

>They can raise the mimimum wage over the federal minimum wage just like they have in other states in the past.

How much over the Federal minimum is enough to get the service workers out of poverty ?
And for how long will that be enough?

>They can bring in universal health care.

By Universal you mean statewide across Idaho? So with employers paying for health insurance we can consider that to be another wage increase for the workers, on top of the new State minimum wage.

>They can legislate for decent and affordable housing for the working poor.

Can you elaborate on 'legislation for decent and affordable housing'? Like who will pay for new
development and if there will be rent control ?

> Idaho is rich in natural resources and a responsible and liberal government can make sure all the profits get spread to the people and not a few out of state corporations.

And if the companies decide to leave as a result of the govt forcibly redistributing wealth..
then we have Idahoans out of work, and the state govt out of tax revenue. How is the state going
to entice them back ?

[Cleita]

94. Wow, are you Jonah Goldberg?

I guess workers who are half-starved or suffer from "food insecurity" as the eupehmism goes are fine with you.

Other states manage to do the right thing and so can Idaho if Democrats can get their candidates elected and in order to do that they need campaign funds that match the Republican candidate's so that they can dissemble the lies and disinformation those candidates get elected on.

This is really BS.

And if the companies decide to leave as a result of the govt forcibly redistributing wealth..
then we have Idahoans out of work, and the state govt out of tax revenue. How is the state going
to entice them back ?

This is what the Repubs tried to tell us the voters to get Ahnold relected in California. They claimed he brought business back to the state. Yeah, we got a few more WalMarts and other trash big businesses paying low wages. The fact is the good jobs in the Silicon Valley that were outsourced will never come back until the legislature and Governor lean on those businesses to bring them back with fines and taxes that will make outsourcing unprofitable for them.

The same is happening in Boise and other cities in Idaho that once had many good paying jobs in the software development sector. The facts are that it's the mom and pop businesses that provide most of the jobs, yet they aren't getting the tax support that the big corporations are. Government can change this. Also, those service jobs in Ketchum can pay better wages. Someone tried to sell me a $400 sleeping bag there. It seems there was a huge markup because I was able to buy the same item for $100 a few towns down the road.

Your Republican talking points really aren't welcome here, but do stick around, you might get educated.

[nine30]

96. "Talking points " ?

> Wow, are you Jonah Goldberg?
>Your Republican talking points really aren't welcome here, but do stick around, you might get educated.

Talking points ? I merely asked a few questions or sought clarification on those that you made, and you already start making personal attacks and name calling. If you want to avoid debating issues, thats another matter.


>I guess workers who are half-starved or suffer from "food insecurity" as the eupehmism goes are fine with you.

With 10s of millions of $$ worth of unclaimed food stamps and state govts actively soliciting claimers, I find that a little questionable.


>And if the companies decide to leave as a result of the govt forcibly redistributing wealth..
>then we have Idahoans out of work, and the state govt out of tax revenue. How is the state going
>to entice them back ?

>This is what the Repubs tried to tell us the voters to get Ahnold relected in California. They claimed he brought business >back to the state. Yeah, we got a few more WalMarts and other trash big businesses paying low wages. The fact is the good >jobs in the Silicon Valley that were outsourced will never come back until the legislature and Governor lean on those >businesses to bring them back with fines and taxes that will make outsourcing unprofitable for them.


No politician can guarantee that they can bring outsourced jobs back to the country or to the state, and that's why they never promise outright. Schwarzenegger cannot guarantee to bring jobs back and neither can Stallone, nor Bush nor Kerry. At best they can make the environment a little more business friendly--which, means different things to different people.

Are trash big businesses exclusively for the benefit of the people they employ, or maybe as a fringe benefit - also for the much larger community they serve ?


>The facts are that it's the mom and pop businesses that provide most of the jobs, yet they aren't getting the tax support >that the big corporations are. Government can change this.

You will have to educate me on that one, cause I understood the tax cuts were across the board.


>Also, those service jobs in Ketchum can pay better wages.

We already covered that. Once the local govt legislates a state min wage above the poverty level, we can expect statewide poverty will be histoire.


>Someone tried to sell me a $400 sleeping bag there. It seems there was a huge markup because I was able to buy
>the same item for $100 a few towns down the road.

By all means. When enough of you buy sleeping bags from the store down the road, the store owner will get the message and set his price to more realistic levels.

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. That smarts

and for the record he is an idiot. A femur fracture... is no jocking matter... but hey, his choice.

As to feeling simpathy... well it comes with the territory... but I feel sorry for the EMS, and Medical personnel that will have to deal with his assholness in the comming months

[truthisfreedom]

6. That's gotta hurt. I broke my toe 2 weeks ago and it's finally starting to feel okay.

A femur must take a really long time to heal.

[nadinbrzezinski]

9. Word to the wise keep your weight off that toe

I shatered my big toe this year and boy it still hurts with the cold weather

[Warpy]

28. I broke mine last year

just after my pop died. It was a hairline fracture, but my whole foot turned black.

I went to the ER for x-rays and a lot of drugs. I had to spend the next 3 weeks trying to clean out his house, cart things off to charity, fill a dumpster with castoffs.

Drugs are great if you need them, that's for sure.

[nadinbrzezinski]

33. Mine was a full shater

door at store fell on it... short story, we will never set a foot in that store ever again...

The wife's a fundy and boy did it show.

It was so bad they thought they had to pin it... thank god I had insurance, or we would have had to sue for the medical

[pokercat999]

44. I broke my left femur many years ago. I spent a year on

crutches and had two surgeries. Yep, it hurts. My fracture was a little more than a "crack" as the bone was protruding from my outer thigh. That's what happens (if you're lucky) when you hit a full size Chevy head-on with a motorcycle.

[MrSlayer]

7. Broken thigh bone? Yowch!

That's a nasty injury. He's full of mishaps, the Governator is.

[badgerpup]

39. An injury like that can be quite enlightening...

...especially if someone is used to pretty much good health and physical well-being.

Wonder if he's going to be any different...

Knew a doctor who was quite stingy with prescribing pain meds to his post-op patients...
"Bunch of wimps and wusses!"
Then he had to have HIS gallbladder out...he changed his tune in a big hurry and he was enough of a MAN to admit to the nurses and his patients that he had been wrong.
:applause:

[aquart]

45. Hmm. Getting painkillers in California.

Hope they give Arnold as much grief as they give my sister. Hope they make him go for acupuncture first. Hope they insist he haul ass to the doctor for every single damn prescription even though they've known him for years.

[nadinbrzezinski]

54. He's the guvernator

even if he was a dem and a nice guy, he is STILL the guvernator... VIP all the way

[graywarrior]

8. Sonny Bono had it worse.

[Cleita]

10. This could be cool. If he can't work the Lieutenant Governer

assumes his duties and he is John Garamendi, a Democrat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Garamendi

[graywarrior]

11. Unfortunately, he'll "be bawk"

[nadinbrzezinski]

12. You know I am sure the docs warned him

but if he keeps the surgery off long enough there could indeed be some very serious complications... that scenario is not that far off.

Oh and did I mentioned he used steroids as a young buck?

Will go and look for some info on this and come back (and no I don't wish ill on people but HE IS AN IDIOT! Two days, I get it, but after the holidays, my god what is HE thinkng?

Here you go

Distal femur fractures warrant early orthopedic consultation, and patients with any significant displacement or joint incongruity usually require open reduction and internal fixation (ORIF). Complications of distal femur fractures include fat emboli, deep vein thrombosis (DVT), delayed union or malunion, angulation deformity, and osteoarthritis. While these complications may not be evident at the time of injury, they may be a reason for future visits to the emergency department or primary care office.


http://www.mdchoice.com/emed/main.asp?template=0&page=detail&type=8&id=1119

[Contrite]

17. I once fractured my femoral head and didn't know it

I was doing aerobic high-impact classes and my hip was bothering me some so I had an x-ray and there it was. I had apparently sustained it months earlier when I had a mishap remodeling my house and fell through a hole in the floor.

[nadinbrzezinski]

18. He fractured the shaft I think

that is more serious. Yours can be painful... and your pain threshold is high

[Contrite]

19. Yes, you are correct--my pain threshold is very high n/t

[Liberty Belle]

35. True, but would you want a "second stringer" operating over the holidays?

The top docs are probably off vacationing with their families.

On the other hand, we had a friend who had to delay surgery on a broken leg due to a more serious injury to his head. He wound up with a pulmonary embolism in his lung and nearly died.

If the Guvernator is laid up in Idaho for any significant length of time, Garamendi could also pull the same trick as a former GOP Lt. Gov, who declared himself acting governor whenever the Democratic Guv left the state, and starting signing or vetoing bills. All kinds of potential for mischief or merrymaking there.

[nadinbrzezinski]

41. Hate to say this

but Swartzie is gonna get VIP medical care regardless

Trust me.. that can go either way.

As to second stringer... I dunno, since Trauma Units are fully staffed by top line docs 24\7\365

And yes, given he IS the governor, he could have been admited as a code trauma to I dunno, LA Trauma.

No, he is going to go for a private doctor... who he believes is not a second stringer.

And since he USED steroids when he was a young'in... his chances of nasty comps are just higher

Wanna bet the er docs forced on him an Against Medical Advise release just to cover their assess? I know I would

[Cleita]

64. In Idaho the health care quality is pretty dismal unless you

go to Boise or even across the border to Spokane Washington, like I had to for my husband. Idaho is mostly rural and wilderness so they don't have the fancy trauma units like bigger cities in richer states do. Mostly it's a band-aid by an EMT until you can get to a large city. Many towns only have a nurse practitioner in a clinic with a doctor coming in sometimes once a week.

Maybe in Ketchum they might have some good orthopedic doctors in the hospitals there, but they would probably only do limited care until he could see a specialist in California.

[jmowreader]

71. Spokane has fantastic healthcare, but it's too far from Sun Valley for this

This is a map of Idaho and enough of Washington so you can see Spokane:



You will notice that it is a hell of a long way from Sun Valley to Spokane. Once you're that far south, if you didn't want to take him to Boise (the logical choice; it's not that far) you'd be better off going to Las Vegas.

Oh, and the obligatory comment no one's made yet: Kennedy-family members and people married to them should never ski.

[Cleita]

74. My husband and I always went to Spokane for health care

when we lived in various areas of N. Idaho and NE Washington. Spokane isn't that far by airplane, but Las Vegas is a good option too. You could probably hit Missoula too. So Boise, Missoula or Spokane are the three largest cities with decent medical facilities that could handle his injury. Just saying.

[BrotherBuzz]

22. John Garamendi IS the acting Governor as long as...

Schwarzenegger is out of state. Perhaps Arnie-boy should be encouraged to have his surgery and long, long recovery in Idaho. :)

[Erika]

25. His palace is only a few blocks from Kerry's n/t

[Cleita]

31. This is one of the reasons I had reservations about Kerry

and only supported him once the primaries were over and I had to.

[karynnj]

40. Why?

Because a house Teresa owned before she married John Kerry is near Arnold's?

[Cleita]

56. No. It's the fact that they can enjoy ski vacations oblivious

to the wretchedness around them. But that's what rich people do. As property owners, even of a vacation home, they should be involved in the community even though they aren't there full time. They have more power to effect change than those of us who know about the situation, but can do very little to change it. I expect Arnold and Maria to be self-involved plutocrats but not John and Theresa.

[karynnj]

65. How do you know that Teresa and John are not involved in helping the community

Teresa was incredibly involved in the Pittsburg area - and many things she did came out more in spite of her, than because she wanted publicity for what she does. After Katrina, they quietly sent a plane with relief supplies ito Mississippi - and this is known only because Trent Lott rather emotionally thanked Kerry in a speech in the Senate.

[Cleita]

68. Maybe they do some, however, there should be real change

and there hasn't been since I was there in 1998.

Heres a website you might want to read about poverty in the State of Idaho and in Blaine County (where Sun Valley is) http://www.idahofoodbank.org/hunger.htm

Some snippets.

This means that on average in Idaho minimum-wage workers must work 87 hours a week at $5.15 per hour to pay the rent. In Ada and Canyon counties, it is 98 hours per week; Bannock is 76 hours; Nez Perce is 79 hours. Madison County has the lowest rents and requires an average of 69 hours; Blaine County is highest at 119 hours. (National Low Income Housing Coalition 2004)

In Ada County the average rent for two-bedroom apartment was $654 per month, $512 in Bannock, $527 in Nez Perce, $795 in Blaine (highest), $462 in Madison (lowest). (National Low Income Housing Coalition)

The Idaho economy is not creating enough living-wage jobs. The pay offered for 78% of new jobs in Idaho are inadequate to meet a family of three’s basic needs. (Northwest Job Gap Study)

There are ski resorts in California and Nevada that don't have the poverty index that Ketchum does. Also, the workers don't just come from Blaine County but surrounding counties that are even more impoverished. I don't want to argue with anyone about what our politicians do in their spare time. I just think they need to do more than the private citizen in being aware of the misery they are surrounded by while enjoying themselves.

[karynnj]

70. The link does show that Idaho is an extremely poor state with considerable poverty

It doesn't show that the ski area is negatively impacting this. Nothing here even shows the income of people working for the resort or the businesses that are there because of the resort. I assume, for example, that there are nice expensive restaurants - where even if base wages are low, the tips are likely high. The likelihood is that the presence of the resort is actually a big positive.

I live on the east coast and have gone on to a ski area in Northern Vermont for a week each year for the last 16 years. I have met some of the people who live there year round. Like, Idaho, this area has many people barely living at the poverty level. Many of these people benefit from the resort (Smugglers Notch) by working at the resort or selling agricultural products or crafts at the resort. Also many restaurants and other businesses have opened that cater to the resort people.

Many people on the farms that open to show kids what farms are explained that the money they earned doing this was critical in augmenting their income and kept them from selling family farms.

Jeffersonville, Vermont has a lower standard of living and likely more people below the poverty line than my county in NJ. Do you think that I am doing anything wrong in vacationing there?

[Cleita]

73. Those people make between $5.15 and $7 an hour in Sun Valley

when they are working. The work is not steady year round work but seasonal, which makes their yearly income below half of poverty. They have no health care and must rely on food stamps and the food bank year round. In 2004 I was researching this and was able to pull up articles from the Idaho statesmen. Unfortunately, those articles are no longer on line. Since today is Christmas I can't try to find other links to those articles, but believe me there is a huge problem and the wealthy residents of Sun Valley don't seem to be concerned.

I was preparing to do a post on this for DU in 2004 and then I saw John and Theresa on a ski vacation in Sun Valley on the news. I made the decision not to put this information up because it would make him look bad and we needed to beat Bush.

It's good of John and Theresa to give to Ethiopia and Katrina relief, however, they don't live there and recreate there. As property owners, they and Brooke Shields and the Schwarzeneggers could have a lot of influence on the politics in Blaine County to correct these injustices. Most of the problems in Idaho with poverty could be corrected by dumping the Republican politicians. People like the Kerrys and other liberals that own property there could do a lot by giving contributions to the Democratic candidates so they could run the campaigns with a media blitz that would topple the existing conservative stranglehold on the state. There is a lot they could do by getting involved.

[karynnj]

78. Ethiopia?

First off, her name is Teresa. Second, her philanthopy work is extremely well thought of. I do not know what, if anything, they do to help Idaho. I don't think they could change the politics of the state - it is very red. I assume that if they could change - as would any Democrat.

All I'm saying is that it is unfair, based on no knowledge of what the Kerrys are or are not doing, to condemn them. As wealthy as Teresa is - I doubt she could fix the economic problems of all 7 places she has homes in. As to John Kerry, this was a house his wife had for years before he married her. Should he have refused to spend the holidays where she and her children traditionally had?

[Cleita]

80. Until you know more about this I don't think you should be making

assumptions about the politics. For one thing most Idahoans are Independents who believe in voting for the man. The reason it's red is because they believe all the BS the Repukes tell them, which is bolstered by their churches. They are very honest people and can't wrap their minds around the fact than anyone would lie to them. The lumber, mining and recreation industries are owned by Republicans who make sure that they pour the necessary money into campaigns to get their candidates elected.

The poor unfortunate Democrats don't have a chance in hell to fight these Republicans to run an effective campaign against them. These are the disappearing union guys. I think rich Democrats who own property and recreate in this places like these could help these Democrats with money and organization to turn the tide.

The fact that there isn't any information about this out there and that there is not change would point to the fact that this isn't happening.

[karynnj]

84. I actually said very little about the politics - because I don't know much

about all I said was that they were red - and the last time I saw any political analysis, Idaho was listed as solid red. I thought that conventional wisdom. I said nothing else about Idaho - in fact if you look at my posts, I immediately used what I knew about a poor, rural area of Vt with a less prestigious ski resort (though it is near Stowe).

You, though, opted to post somewhat negatively on the Kerrys when I doubt you knew any more of what they do for the area than I know Idaho.

[Cleita]

85. Then apparently we are having a useless conversation and

I won't continue.

[Gormy Cuss]

51. Um, isn't Cruz the acting governor for a few more days?

Garamendi would become acting gov if Arnold is out for a long time.

[BrotherBuzz]

53. Hmmm, I guess you're correct

What was I thinking? :shrug:

[Cleita]

57. So what Cruz is still a Democrat. It will be in Democratic hands

until Arnold recovers.

[Gormy Cuss]

62. So what?

Well, let's see. If, as it appears that his political career is over,Bustamante has no reason to do anything but sit on his hands. It all depends on what he sees as his best move for his next job. Garamendi, on the other hand, would want to show leadership in the vacuum.

[Cleita]

63. This is what I came up with. Cruz Bustamante is in office until

John Garamendi takes the oath of office on January 8, 2007. Cruz may sit on his hands but at least he won't be forwarding the Republican agenda. I'm pretty certain he won't unless he wants to commit political suicide with the Democrats. If Arnold can't get sworn into office on January 8th because he's in traction somewhere, dare I hope that they swear Garamendi in instead?

[Cleita]

76. Correction. He will be sworn in on the 5th.

Found it on Yahoo news.

[stevebreeze]

13. I don't' have stats but it seems very unusual to break a femur

I would think, and to my experience the vast majority of ski injuries are lower leg, twisting type of injuries. To break a femur you would almost have had to hit it against something, like a tree.

[nadinbrzezinski]

14. Due to the forces involved

I am almost betting on a radial fracture... and ... he used steroids... I think, not sure on this, will look it up, that osteoporosis is a
complication

Damn I hate it when my memory still works...

Here you go

http://www.vhl.org/newsletter/vhl1999/99aioste.htm

Osteoporosis: A side effect of steroid use

-- Altheada L. Johnson, MS, Registered Dietitian

You might wonder what an article on osteoporosis is doing in the VHL Family Forum. Isn’t that the disease of old women? Yes, it affects 28 million Americans, 80% of whom are women. However, young people, men, and especially people with VHL need to be concerned too.

Osteoporosis is the loss of calcium from the bones causing them to become thin or porous, weak and easily broken. Calcium is laid down in our bones only during our growing periods when we are young. It is very important for pregnant or nursing women and youngsters to get the recommended amount of calcium in their diets each day. As we age, there is a normal, unavoidable loss of calcium from our bones. If, while we were young, we obtained the recommended amounts and have stayed active, this normal loss of calcium should have a minimal effect on our bones.1 It is important that everyone maintain a good calcium intake throughout life.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

15. Long term steroid use can leech calcium from the bones, for instance.

MKJ

[thereismore]

21. that's the first thing I thought about. They're gonna get you sooner or

later.

[CountAllVotes]

49. long term steroid use can cause many problems

and just one of them is brittle bones that break easily if you fall.

Other problems are many and horrific.

I wouldn't wish this on anyone (breaking their femur). I've broken a few bones in my life and it was very painful and took a long time to heal. I was young at the time too and had never used steroids (and still don't).

It could take Arnold a long time to heal up from this.

:dem: :kick:

[thereismore]

20. Ski injuries can be pretty wild. My friend broke his shoulder blade, upper

jaw, and pelvis, and did not even hit a tree.

[Posteritatis]

36. Ow. Did he hit the lodge or something? (n/t)

[thereismore]

77. No, just crashed on the ground hard. The funny thing is, he did not break

any legs or hands.

[Eurobabe]

61. Maybe he's got osteoporosis? Men can get it too.

[jamesinca]

16. Will this jerk insist on a private nurse

I believe he uses them when injured or ill. But he tried to suspend the nurse to patient ratio because he did not feel it did any good and was just way to expensive.

In other words, screw you poor people and I will get the kickbacks form the health care industry.

If he gets a blood clot in the lungs from this then I will have some empathy/sympathy for him, until that time a broken femur just hurts like hell and serves him right.

[Cleita]

75. Let's hope the nurse is an ex-linebacker named Bruce, because

Arnold didn't break his hands.

[Erika]

24. Arnie got a $18,000 tax break from Idaho this year

for his Idaho properties while the sales tax was raised on all Idaho citizens to include grocery purchases.

Red state values.

[nadinbrzezinski]

26. Hold it where is his primary residency?

I hate these idiots at times.

[Cleita]

58. In order to be Governor shouldn't it be his Pacific Palisades

house in California? Hmmmm, if he is in fact an out-of-state resident, could this be how we get rid of him?

[nadinbrzezinski]

60. that is what I was thinking

perhaps we should find an enterprising gumshoe reporter to look into it

It truly depends on how his taxes are filed... and if his lawyers are good they did all by the book, but one can hope

[Cleita]

32. I used to live in Idaho, but I really got discouraged by the

resident's need to be independent. They wanted to vote for the man. They didn't want to be tied to a party. So what do they do? They vote for the guy who tells the best lies, the Republican candidate. That is why Idaho is red.

[Erika]

34. Yeah, the Idaho GOP reduced Arnie's taxes by $18,000

and increased the sales for residents by 1% including food purchases. GOP values. Love the rich and hammer the poor.

[silverojo]

37. So much for that "Ca-li-for-ni-a" commercial he did recently!

Skiing's not all it's cracked up to be, Ah-nuld....

[Posteritatis]

38. His femur might disagree.. (n/t)

[rail]

95. Yeah! He films a commercial for California skiiing, then hits the slopes in Idaho?

...Man, this guy's hypocrisy knows no bounds.

The funny part is that that a line in the commercial is something like "If you were snow, where would you want to fall?" I guess if you're a governor, you want to fall in Idaho...it's not just for potatoes anymore.

[rcdean]

42. Pooah Ahnuld is such a girly man.

I wish to have sympathy for him, but he is so sad. Maybe he could take his cast to a girly man home and we should all say nice things for him to get better.

[superconnected]

83. It's hard to sympathize for someone who cant sympathize

It's like, because cheney can't feel for others, I can't feel for cheney having heartattacks.

Instead I'm taking tap lessons so I can dance on his grave when he dies. Seriously, that's why I sigend up for them.

[renaissanceguy]

43. Many soldiers lose legs in Iraq every day

and MSNBC is worried about poor Ahhhhnuld's femur????


http://www.cafepress.com/liberalissues/479862

[BushOut06]

46. Why couldn't he be the one getting lost in the mountains?

You think Ah-nuld has what it takes to survive in the wild?

[mitchum]

50. Good

[Jim Sagle]

66. Fuckin' A. Here's to Ahhhhnold: "Merry Xmas, ahhhhsshole!"

:beer:

[Moochy]

52. Good thing Skynet was able to send out replacement parts

All praise Skynet! :)

In all seriousness I hope our Goobernator's thighbone heals up naturally and is not replaced by cybernetic components.

[Name removed]

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[Joe Chi Minh]

69. Would that have been an Act of God? Or just girlie-man ineptitude

at sports?

[undeterred]

72. All I can think of are SNL skits with Kevin Nealon and Dana Carvey

Usually those were arms that were broken off, though.

[cadmium]

79. Now he will really need to be nicer to nurses n/t

[superconnected]

82. This is sad! all I could think was, "Damn, only the leg!"

Of course had they said it was the neck I would have thought, "damn, wrong republican"

[Neshanic]

90. "Pinus bonoensis"...good thing that species did not get ze Arnie.

[Megahurtz]

92. Ouch!

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