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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 08:15 PM
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Dinosaurs, humans coexist in U.S. creation museum
Ken Ham's sprawling creation museum isn't even open yet, but an expansion is already underway in the state-of-the art lobby, where grunting dinosaurs and animatronic humans coexist in a Biblical paradise.

A crush of media attention and packed preview sessions have convinced Ham that nearly half a million people a year will come to Kentucky to see his Biblically correct version of history.

...

The $27 million project, which also includes a planetarium, a special-effects theater, nature trails and a small lake, is privately funded by people who believe the Bible's first book, Genesis, is literally true.

For them, a museum showing Christian schoolchildren and skeptics alike how the earth, animals, dinosaurs and humans were created in a six-day period about 6,000 years ago -- not over millions of years, as evolutionary science says -- is long overdue.

More...


Long overdue indeed.

In-deed.

...

:rofl:
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 08:18 PM
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1. Perhaps it will do well for awhile. . . .
Sooner or later, however, it will crumble in cobwebs.
A Museum of Natural History, it ain't.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 10:27 PM
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31. Never underestimate the lasting supidity of the religiously insane.
They've been gathering steam for over 1900 years now and they're at an all time peak of insanity. These people will copiously throw their money away on anything remotely religious, juuuuuuust in case. ;) Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's and all that shit...... :eyes:
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 02:57 AM
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49. Religon IS insanity.
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 09:30 AM
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62. A fine sentiment for Martin Luther King Day
nt
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Tyo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 10:34 AM
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68. Well it's the truth.
Doesn't mean that insanity can't be a positive thing once in a while. A great while.B-)
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 02:13 PM
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80. So you're saying the Martin Luther King Jr. was insane?
Ghandi? Nuts.
Mother Teresa? Looney.
William Sloane Coffin? Bonkers.
Jesse Jackson? Batshit Crazy.





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Tyo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 03:02 PM
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83. Insane? Well, okay, who knows? Benefit of the doubt I suppose.
But I will say that believing that plants talk, that people walk on water, survive in the bellies of giant fish, and rise from the dead, that food falls from the sky, that two of every animal life form on earth can be crammed into a big boat, that a couple of loaves and fishes can be magically multiplied to provide eats for an assembled multitude, that water can be transformed into wine, and that an innocent woman can be changed into a pillar of salt (whatever that is) by simply looking behind her does seem highly peculiar to me.
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 03:13 PM
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84. That's mighty big of you
nt
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Tyo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 03:20 PM
Response to Reply #84
87. I think so too
B-)
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gratefultobelib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 03:51 PM
Response to Reply #83
90. Thank you, thank you, thank you! My thoughts exactly!
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Tyo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:34 PM
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91. I missed quite a few
I don't know how I overlooked the one about the virgin having the baby.

Anyhoo, welcome to DU! :hi:

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gratefultobelib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 09:49 PM
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108. Hey, I'm just glad you included Lot's wife (nameless, of course),,
that pillar of salt story has always, well, just ANNOYED the crap out of me!
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Crayson Donating Member (463 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 08:14 AM
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125. If we had a pillar of salt every time somebody... ^_^
Yeah... just because she liked sodomy...
^_^

I'd say a bit of an overreaction on part of your god.

We wouldn't have any problems with snow covering our streets if we had THAT much salt around if every time somebody would... you know what.
o_0
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Tyo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 10:47 AM
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132. I stopped looking behind my back a long time ago
There is no point in taking a chance on getting hit with some sort of sudden involuntary saline transformation. I already know who is back there anyway.
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Crayson Donating Member (463 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 07:57 AM
Response to Reply #83
123. lol... good point
But hey!
They're great stories!

Like Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, etc.. (which by the way come very close to religions themselves when you ask hardcore fans)... but only stories nonetheless.

And think about it.
How many people could read and write at that time?
How many of these "creation" stories were told at campfires and each time enriched by some cool sounding detail.

Compare the creation myths of other ancient people. They are often bizarr but always fitting into the specific culture and their mindset.

Creation for an inuit probably has to do something with snow and fish.
Whereas for a desert people it will have something to do with sand and a baking sun.
And in the djungle you get something green and watery maybe with big teeth.
And people with an alcohol problem and mad pig diseas probably would say that God forbid to drink and eat pig meat.
And people with monks getting fat and impregnating half the villages female population will probably invent the celibate and state that they should be "married" to a god instead to a human.
And when old customs like midwinter light rites can't be stamped out they invent the christmas tree and state that easter eggs are all about easter instead being a far older springtime fertility rite.
And so on.. and so on.. and so on..
Since thousands of years one religion builds on top of another either fighting or absorbing the others.

Look at all the different religions and what was their purpose in different civilizations and you'll start to recognize patterns and decide that you don't want to be part of it any longer because it always tries to limit you in one way or another or force a way of living unto you.

Start to think!
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The Flaming Red Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 10:57 AM
Response to Reply #83
133. Or maybe they don't understand
metaphors.


met·a·phor

met·a·phor
(plural met·a·phors)
n
1. implicit comparison: the application of a word or phrase to somebody or something that is not meant literally but to make a comparison, for example, saying that somebody is a snake
2. figurative language: all language that involves figures of speech or symbolism and does not literally represent real things
3. symbol: one thing used or considered to represent another


<15th century. From, ultimately, Greek metaphora , from metapherein “to transfer,” literally “to carry between,” from pherein “to carry” (see -phore).>
Encarta ® World English Dictionary © & (P) 1998-2004 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
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Crayson Donating Member (463 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 07:39 AM
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122. Yes...

Other than these people being great at psychology (specially Ghandi)... yes...

People need to learn and respect each other without religion being involved.
Specially people of DIFFERENT religions.
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 06:55 PM
Response to Reply #62
100. I don't see MLK as about religion, he was about humanity. Not the same thing
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Crayson Donating Member (463 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 07:35 AM
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121. Agree
It's a disease.
Or more probable it's a crutch that helped cavemen survive (They probably prayed to their gods to rid them of the dinosaurs ^_^) and bear with their hardships.

It's nothing more than a brain pattern to file away stuff we can't explain (yet), therefor some supreme being has to be responsible for it.

Religion
Superstition
Conspiracy theories
That's all the same pattern! If something good/bad happens, there MUST be somebody responsible for it.

Although we are technologically advanced, we know nothing yet. There is so much more to discover in the department of brain function, exotic particles and waves and so on.
All this stuff can interfere with your thinking and give you visions and religious expiriences.

Same as an orgasm, religion only happens in the brain!
And same as an orgasm, a religious experience can be overwhelming, nonetheless it's just a chemical process with some electrical discharges.
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John Gauger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 08:18 PM
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2. "Biblically correct"?
Where in the Bible are dinosaurs mentioned?
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 08:25 PM
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5. I dunno
but "Max the 2000 year old mouse" had the dinosaurs on his show, so scientifically and mathematically they had to be around sometime within - 28 BC - 1972 AD. this is roughly estimated, because I am not entirely sure of the time of filming Max's show.
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 08:56 PM
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15. "There Were Giants in the Earth in Those Days" Gen 6:4
Many creationists interpret that to include giant creatures, which were of course conveniently killed off in Noah's Flood and buried under the sediment left behind as the water's receded.
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A Simple Game Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 09:33 PM
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22. Life would have been much more interesting if Noah
had just built a boat large enough to carry at least some of the dinosaurs.

But what happened to the ones that lived in the oceans? They didn't drown did they?
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John Gauger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 10:29 PM
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33. Hey! Don't ask questions!
You're not supposed to think, you're supposed to BELIEVE. Don't question the judgement of your superiors; just go back to consuming.
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 09:20 AM
Response to Reply #22
59. parrots..?
iguana?
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Crayson Donating Member (463 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 08:10 AM
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124. let me help out here ^_^

Those were SALTWATER Dinosaurs!
They weren't used to the sweetwater rain.
Therefor they died of too low salt concentrations, as billions of cubic kilometers of rain water covered the earth and diluted the sea water.

(Anybody enough spare time and do the math how much water it would need to cover they face of the earth? Lets say, 4 or 6 kilometers high, such as only the highest peaks of the Himalaja/Andes are not covered by water)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth

510,065,600 km² x 6km = 3'060'393'600 km3 of Sweet Water !!
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A Simple Game Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:07 AM
Response to Reply #124
134. Wow, thanks for the information. I should have thought of that.
That's why I love DU, all kinds of information and new perspectives available.

Lucky for us that fresh water and salt water fish were far more tolerant of salt and/or fresh water contamination than were the dinosaurs.

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John Gauger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 10:27 PM
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32. I'm sure ancient Jewish mythology
had all kinds of giant creatures. Jewish mythology was mostly pilfered from Babylonian, Assyrian, and Egyptian mythology. Babylonian and Egyption mythology both had giant snake creatures, but that doesn't make them dinosaurs. Simply being large does not make something a dinosaur. In fact, most dinosaurs were rather small. Simply mentioning a giant does not mean they are talking about dinosaurs. They're really grasping there.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 09:17 AM
Response to Reply #32
58. oh there you go throwing logic around...
geesh...

;-)
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 03:19 PM
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85. The word "giants" is a mis-translation of the word in Hebrew for
"important people". Since this passage follows a recitation of the names of the Patriarchs, that would seem to make sense. However, the New International Version says that the word "Nephilim" means "people of great size and strength". This angle makes little sense, since the whole point of the first verses of the chapter is to describe how wicked the people were, not how big they were.
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John Gauger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:39 PM
Response to Reply #85
92. Thanks.
I didn't know that.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 11:18 PM
Response to Reply #2
38. How about factually correct?
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 10:14 AM
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66. Here's Bill Hicks on the subject
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 02:42 PM
Response to Reply #66
82. Good one! Thank you. n/t
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 08:19 PM
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3. Howlingly mad.
Batshit crazy.

I'm gonna go, I think. Take pictures.

Maybe I'll sit down at the bar with a friendly velociraptor or two.

Oh, forgot. No bar.

--The New, CrazierOrangeCat :rofl:
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 08:31 PM
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8. yeah, it'll be a big draw
i visited Roswell, NM and had a ball looking at all the goofy "alien" exhibits. This thing, while far less plausible, will probably be equally hilarious

chances are we could make a good living selling rocks or something - come up with some song and dance about how they "prove" creationism due to the colors or whatever. Set up a stand just off hte property of the "museum" and make a killing.
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 08:33 PM
Response to Reply #8
9. I like the way you think, frog.
easy money . . . easy money.

--cat
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 10:33 PM
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111. Aliens are far more easy to believe in
than the creationism mythology. At least to me, the science fiction fan. The one thing I saw that I laughed hysterically at was Jonathan Frakes hosting the "alien autopsy" show that was on a few years ago. It actually was one of the funniest things I've ever seen on TV, and that's saying a lot. But again, I'm more apt to believe there is a real, live equivalent of Klaatu out there someplace than to think that the earth is anything short of a billion years old. The scientific principles of relativity, astronomy,--hell, ANY scientific principles contradict these idiots so obviously that they're only fooling themselves, and making a mockery of their brand of religious belief.

However, and I've said it before, perhaps we are lucky these yahoos are so goddamned ignorant--at least most of them are never gonna be anything but service people at fast food restaurants and other non-scientific jobs.
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 08:49 PM
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13. "...at the bar with a friendly velociraptor or two"
:rofl:
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 10:04 PM
Response to Reply #13
29. A velociraptor, a caveman and a fundie walk into a bar.......
fill in the rest of it yourself, the whole thing is a joke. :rofl:
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 03:20 PM
Response to Reply #29
86. Why would the caveman hang around with inferior species?
:rofl:

Geico.com. So easy, a fundie can do it!
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Crayson Donating Member (463 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 08:21 AM
Response to Reply #86
126. I'm sure you actually meant the Raptor

Dinosaurs dominated this planet for how long?
Hundreds of millions of years?
Wouldn't it have been for some tragic global/cosmic accident they'd still rule!
(that bloody meteor cut our right of way and sure wasn't insured!)

Humans for how long? Maybe 1 million ago that they climbed down from their trees and went into the plain?
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 02:56 PM
Response to Reply #126
137. correction
why would the raptor and the caveman hang around with inferior species? :evilgrin:
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 09:26 PM
Response to Reply #3
21. Haha
I had the same thought :)
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 09:38 PM
Response to Reply #21
23. One wonders . . .
. . . if BatBoy would be welcomed into this new Six-Flags Over Weirdliness . . .

:D

Surely there is room for a missing link or two . . .
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 10:43 PM
Response to Reply #23
35. Don't You Know?
It wasn't a star in the east, those wisemen followed ... that was all myth. It was Batboy. Batboy!
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 09:23 AM
Response to Reply #3
60. It's just as well
you don't want to see a velociraptor w/ a few drinks in her. They're mean drunks.

:rofl:
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 08:23 PM
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4. is Racquel Welch in the dioramas? nt
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 08:29 PM
Response to Reply #4
7. yeah, but the bad news . . .
. . . is they don't have her in a bearskin bikini.


More of a Burqa.


x(
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DixieBlue Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 12:01 PM
Response to Reply #7
72. No fair!
That's what I was going to write!
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 10:40 PM
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34. Hopefully, with Barbara Bach
n/t
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 08:29 PM
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6. So am I to assume....
...that after the first humans killed off all their dinosaur friends in about a year, they all got really bored and decided to build pyramids?
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Maeve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 08:40 PM
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10. This is so "History of the World, Part 1", Roman era
Oh! You're a bullshit artist! Did you bullshit last week?
Did you try to bullshit?

Fer cryin' out loud...
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 08:41 PM
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11. i love going to these things high
I just laugh, and laugh, and laugh...
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 08:42 PM
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12. .
Edited on Sun Jan-14-07 08:43 PM by BlueJazz
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 08:55 PM
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14. Flintstones. Meet the Flintstones. They're the modern stone age family...
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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 02:12 PM
Response to Reply #14
136. LOL.
I knew someone would beat me to it. :evilgrin:


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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 08:59 PM
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16. Faithlessness is a sin.
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 09:07 PM
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17. $27 million to build this!
Man, I could have thought of many other better ways for fundies to spend their money, like, um, helping those less fortunate!
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 09:12 PM
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19. Oh SURE they could have taken the EASY way out...
and bought food for millions of starving children, but no, they took the road less traveled. And thank God they did. Their $27 million investment will keep the souls and spirits of the faithful nourished for decades to come. Well, maybe not decades, Armageddon is like, just around the corner.
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 09:41 PM
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24. Yeah, Armageddon could really fuck up a vacation . . .
:hi: :nuke:
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 10:08 PM
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30. No, you see....
they're hope to convert people like me with their sound logic and scientific facts. Seriously. :rofl: Good freaking luck you bunch of loony-toons! :rofl:
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 10:47 PM
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Not as bad as the nearly $150 million for Six Flags Over Jesus in Louisville, KY
Otherwise known as Southeast Christian Church:

Google Map of site

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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 10:31 AM
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67. OMG!
That is just freaky.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 12:03 PM
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74. You should see the patrons!
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 09:09 PM
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18. I suppose this is progess. The creationists used to think that dinosaur bones were all faked
Edited on Sun Jan-14-07 09:10 PM by w4rma
by God/Satan/scientists as a test of their faith in their interpretation of the Bible.

At least they are admitting that dinosaurs existed, now.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 11:25 PM
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39. No... they jut finally realized that claiming the "test of faith" makes their god a LIAR
Took 'em long enough...
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 09:14 PM
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20. New Evidence Suggests Noah's Sons Rode Flying Dinosaurs
For years, Creation Scientists have disputed how Noah was able to quickly collect millions of indigenous animals from remote, inaccessible regions of the world for a 40-day ride in his ark. New evidence from an archeological find in China supports the long held Christian belief that Noah's sons rode giant flying dinosaurs to transport duck billed platypuses from Australia, and penguins and polar bears from the Antarctic, to name a few. "Those must have been some mighty big flying dinosaurs," says Pastor Deacon Fred. "Imagine the look on Noah's face when his sons flew in for a landing with a pair of Hippos strapped to the back of one of them things! Glory to God!"

"The Lord is just amazing," says Creation Scientist, Dr. Jonathan Edwards. "Whenever Atheist scientists make a new find, they think it will hack away at our Christian beliefs. They must get pretty peeved at how sneaky our Lord is, because whenever they unearth something, it only provides more support for the historical accuracy of the Holy Bible And these flying dinosaurs they keep finding are no exception!"

Dr. Edwards explains that it would have been impossible for Noah's sons to travel to the four corners of the earth to areas that were previously inaccessible on foot. "Noah and his sons had to collect two of every single creature on the face of the planet," he says. "We're talking about a big haul here. At first we just attributed it to what Creation Scientists call, the Holy Finger Snapping Theory. That's where God snaps his fingers and just makes it so." Edwards points out that Creation Scientists are still unanimous in attributing the fact that Noah was able to load 100 million plus animals onto a 450 foot ark "in the selfsame day" (Genesis 7:13-14) to the Finger Snapping Theory. In the case of how the animals were collected from remote regions of the world in the first place however, recent archeological finds indicate that Noah's sons were able to tame giant flying dinosaurs and in turn, load them up with food supplies and hitch rides for long trips around the world to China, South America, Australia, Greenland, and the North Pole.

<more>

http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0605/flyingdinos.html
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 09:42 PM
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25. That thar is one heckuva website.
:spray:
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 10:00 PM
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27. that is frickin hysterical!
whats up with that website? who's behind it? Its a stitch!
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tchunter Donating Member (236 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 01:53 AM
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46. landover baptist church isn't real, its meant to be satire
thats like those idiots who quoted the onion as a legit site
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 08:35 AM
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55. Now, Noah had to collect 2 of EVERY Creature, RIGHT?
That's what the book of FRACTURED FAIRY TALES® tell us RIGHT?

That means Noah HAD to pick up 2 of EVERYTHING!, RIGHT!!!!!!!!

The Book of FRACTURED FAIRY TALES® did NOT tell Noah to leave no animals behind, RIGHT????

So why did Noah leave the dinosaurs behind?

How did King Cobras get on the ark from India, and NOT bite anything?

What about the termites?

What about Roaches?

The plain stupidity of these imbecelic insane pscyhotic Christian Jesusbots just blow my mind!
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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 06:18 PM
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95. I'm ok with the loss of dinosaurs, it's the Unicorn I miss
x(
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 07:14 PM
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102. Huh ... it's alright for some ...
... the damn things wouldn't come to me would they?

:silly:
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 07:13 PM
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101. One of my favourite interpretations of this ...
...


:-)
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 10:48 PM
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112. And don't you forget
the unicorn!!!!!

:rofl:
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 09:16 AM
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57. "the Holy Finger Snapping Theory"....that one has me giggling
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 09:59 PM
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26. The bible belt is stuck on stupid......
really, how delusional does a person have to be to SAY they believe this, let alone actually BELIEVE IT? :wtf:


And people wonder why I'm an atheist. :eyes: These people are too stupid to be alive.
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agincourt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 10:02 PM
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28. Plenty of money,
for crap like this. Needs to be laughed off the map.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 10:44 PM
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36. I'm so proud of my state.
:(
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 10:47 PM
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37. Knuckle-dragging idiots.
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 11:47 PM
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40. Garden of Eden bumper sticker: "In case of raptor, this mule will be riderless"
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aaronbees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 07:42 PM
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104. LOLOL
:rofl:
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Crayson Donating Member (463 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 08:25 AM
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128. can't top that one
lol.. I wanted to do some wordplay with raptor and rapture myself.

But after I read yours... unbeatable!!
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 12:16 AM
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41. They're everywhere:
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Nezvanovich Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 12:58 AM
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42. backwords fascists.
OF all the baptists ive met, a majority hold very offensive, racially prejudiced views. So much for relgion of tolerance.
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 01:00 AM
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43. Oh my god.
That's almost funnier than this story.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 01:06 AM
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44. "Click on a number to see the corresponding image and description ...
2. An eye-catching monument greets you, as you drive up the entry circle and drop off your family and friends ...
5. Retreat to the café for refreshment ...
6. ... Find shelves crammed with the latest books, tapes, CDs, DVDs, videos and other resources ... Stock up ...
10. Imagine .. children playing with dinosaurs! ...
12. Bible Authority Room ...
14. A Day in Paradise ...
19. T. rex ... That’s the terror that Adam’s sin unleashed! ..."

http://www.answersingenesis.org/museum/walkthrough/
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 01:15 AM
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45. Hey! Just like Fisher Price Little People Toys! They have
little people with T-Rexes that are named,brontosauruses, etc. I couldn't help but wonder if there was a subtle brainwashing going on.
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GreenZoneLT Donating Member (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 02:10 AM
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47. Oh, I am SO there.
I have GOT to go to this thing. I missed out on Heritage USA before it went broke; I ain't missing this one. The only question is how liquored-up to get before I go. I don't smoke dope or I'd do it stoned.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 03:07 AM
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50. maybe just one or two drinks. you want to be coherent enough to
ask PLENTY of questions.

ask one for me: is that how the dinos became extinct? because noah just didn't have enough room on the ark for all of those suckers?
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 02:41 AM
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48. If anyone needed more evidence of America's accellerating decline
all they'd have to do is look at the proliferation of these "museums" and the outcry against films that show geological processes.

See e.g.:

A New Screen Test for Imax: It's the Bible vs. the Volcano

he fight over evolution has reached the big, big screen.

Several Imax theaters, including some in science museums, are refusing to show movies that mention the subject - or the Big Bang or the geology of the earth - fearing protests from people who object to films that contradict biblical descriptions of the origin of Earth and its creatures.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/19/national/19imax.html?ex=1268888400&en=97583c4db54a8662&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 03:08 AM
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51. "flintstones! meet the flintstones!" hey--someone's been watching
way too many cartoons

(see...humans and dinosaurs did coexist. it even shows it with fred & barney!)
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 06:41 AM
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52. The Christian dinosaurs had a nemesis, courtesy of the great Jack Kirby:
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mikeytherat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 08:22 AM
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127. Why are Gandalf and James Brown fighting the dinosaurs?
mikey_the_rat
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Pretty_in_CodePink Donating Member (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 07:47 AM
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53. He's just setting himself up
For a big buck buy-out by Ripley's Believe it or not.
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 08:11 AM
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54. A Flintstones museum?
Because that's the only place I know of where people coexisted with dinosaurs.
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 09:36 AM
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63. What, nobody study the scripture according to Alley Oop?
Dinosaurs and people coexisted way before the Flintstones.

The earth is only 6000 years old? I got SOCKS that are older than that.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 09:14 AM
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56. The Museum for the Dumb
i wonder how many will just go to see how ridiculous it is...

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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 09:29 AM
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61. I'd go...
There's no humor like unintentional humor!
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 10:54 AM
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69. I laugh...but I might go to....with a bunch of snarky friends ..
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 09:39 AM
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64. This is more radical than any museum in the Muslim world
I live in Sharjah, UAE which is the most conservative of the Emirates and the multi-million dollar natural history museum is solely evolutionary...


America is going more and more insane... :(
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 09:56 AM
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65.  mission: to share the Gospel of Jesus Christ with nonbelievers.
Still, Looy is upfront about the museum's mission: to share the Gospel of Jesus Christ with nonbelievers.

"I think a lot of people are going to come out of curiosity ... and we're going to present the Gospel. This is going to be an evangelistic center," Looy said. A chaplain has been hired for museum-goers in need of spiritual guidance.

The museum's rural location near the border of Kentucky, Ohio and Indiana places it well within America's mostly conservative and Christian heartland. But the setting has another strategic purpose: two-thirds of Americans are within a day's drive of the site, and Cincinnati's international airport is minutes away.

The project has not been without opposition. Zoning battles with environmentalists and groups opposed to the museum's message have delayed construction and the museum's opening day has been delayed repeatedly.

The museum has hired extra security and explosives-sniffing dogs to counter anonymous threats of damage to the building. "We've had some opposition," Looy said.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 01:25 PM
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77. location
Yuck! I am unfortunately from Cincinnati and my Dad currently live there. My dad (an atheist but from a Jewish background) already has the misfortune of living next to a "Jews for Jesus" synagogue?church? which really annoys him. Hope he misses hearing about this one....:puke:
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 11:36 AM
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70. Flintstones, meet the Flintstones . . . .
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deepthought42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 11:44 AM
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71. Are they gonna sell Flintstones merchandise in the gift shop?
:rofl:
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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 12:03 PM
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73. Biblically correct? missed the passages in the bible about dinosaurs
Who's paying for this? These nuts should keep wasting their money on stuff like this, better this BS than on hard-right political candidates.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 01:10 PM
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75. My 28th, I am SO THERE.
i'm dying to visit & experience a deeply disquieting schadenfreude. i keep delaying a visit back to my bush-voting parents in Cincy till it opens up.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 01:17 PM
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76. The Scientists vs Evangelicals - Round 356 - Then the dinosaurs carying George Bush fell off the
edge of the flat earth.

It's official, I'm opening an Evangelical Church. I'll have them so scared of eternal damnation that the collection plate will be filled with twenties.

:evilgrin:
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 01:55 PM
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78. All mankind was spawned by Cain screwing his sister.
What else could account for the human race being so fucked up?
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 01:59 PM
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79. According to the Holy Babble, Cain and his bro went to a nearby village to
find wives. Sort of begs the question, where the fuck did this other "village" come from?
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 02:30 PM
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81. The version I read doesn't say anything about where other people came from...
Nothing about dinosaurs.
Nothing about "Adam's first wife" that the fundies like to spout about.
Nothing about a lot of things.

Anybody who takes the Bible literally has a whole lot of nothing in their heads. I guess they were hiding behind the door when god passed out brains.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 03:29 PM
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89. Good ole Official King James Version - Genesis 4 --
15: And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.
16: And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.
17: And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.
18: And unto Enoch was born Irad: and Irad begat Mehujael: and Mehujael begat Methusael: and Methusael begat Lamech.


My guess is that this Land of Nod, just to the East of Eden, is more like Land of Oz just to the East of kansas.

:rofl:
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 06:29 PM
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96. So Winken, Blinken, and Nod were begat before Cain...
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Tyo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:23 AM
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135. Not to mention the butcher, the baker, and the candlestick maker
and isn't there a runcible spoon involved at some point?
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 03:41 PM
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139. The Owl and the Pussycat is not acceptable literature for fundies.
Mixed species marriages are an abomination.
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Crayson Donating Member (463 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 08:31 AM
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130. Hunter's Mark ?
15: And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

Any World of Warcraft Players here?
I wonder what Gods mark on Cain was.
Big Arrow Sign saying: "Kill Him!!" ?
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 03:42 PM
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140. Nipples.
I KNEW there was a reason men have them!
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Crayson Donating Member (463 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 08:27 AM
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129. Probably was another startup religion that didn't make it...

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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 11:14 PM
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113. That's what I would call
a pretty small gene pool. And we wonder why people who breed with first cousins and closer are so dipshit insane.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 12:10 AM
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115. With such a small gene pool, it's remarkable
that we didn't become extinct long ago.

A miracle!!! :sarcasm:
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 08:49 AM
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131. Well, as it turns out
The results of that small gene pool are today pretty stupid and idiotic. Just like the fact that Neanderthal Man died out, the current population of Homo Fundamentalis is (hopefully) closer to extinction than those of us who evolved from Homo Sapiens. ;)
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 03:39 PM
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138. I've heard that before a species goes extinct,
there's a surge in the population...a frenzy to breed.
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:25 PM
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145. Aaaah
That explains it! Homo fundamentalis very much believes that breeding is the only reason to have sex. At least that's what they say--frankly, I think they enjoy it as much as the rest of us. :)
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 03:26 PM
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88. If the Bible is the is the literal, unchanging, infallable word of God...
Then somebody with a drawing compass, a ruler, and a piece of string explain how this is geometrically possible?

2nd Chronicles 4:2

Also he made a molten sea of ten cubits from brim to brim, round in compass, and five cubits the height thereof; and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about.


http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Chronicles%204;&version=9;
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B3Nut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 05:07 PM
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93. Yeah, the ancient Hebrews
got a little stuck on pi. Sad thing is, there are fundamentalists today who insist that pi=3 because of that verse in the Bible. They must have used a jar of Holy Moses's Miracle Pi(TM) to make that thing... :D

Todd in Beerbratistan
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 05:59 AM
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119. You're kidding
Dear god, can't these people measure? Hell, you don't even need a drawing compass OR a ruler!

Take an unopened soda can and place it on its side on a piece of paper. Then take two VHS video tapes and stand them up on their small end, one on each side of the can. With the tapes' flaps facing the can, schooch them up against the can and make a line on the paper where each flap meets the paper. The distance between those two lines is the diameter of the can.

Now, take a second piece of paper and put a tick mark on one edge. Using the tick mark as a starting point, measure out exactly three times the distance between the two lines you makde previously.

Then, wrap that second piece of paper around the can and try to get the first (reference) tick mark to line up with the 3x mark on the paper's edge. Without tearing it, of course.

In a pinch, you can use a can of Schlitz.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 08:11 PM
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144. Instead of VHS tapes you can use old brake pads. I'm sure the FReaks have
plenty of old car parts laying around the yard.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 05:41 PM
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94. Straight from From the museum's handout. Watch the cute little christian girl play
with the Raptor.


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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 06:30 PM
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97. Is that supposed to be Eve?
Demurely dressed, of course.

It must've been that damned snake that made raptors carnivorous.
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 09:30 PM
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106. Oh my fucking god.
I HAVE to go to this place before I die.
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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 06:14 AM
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120. "Mommy, My ARM!" "AHHHHHH!" LoL. n/t
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 06:42 PM
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98. Really Stupid Anyway.
When I was a kid I went to Catholic Gradeschool they taught us about Evolution and Dinosaurs.
We went on Field Trips to Museums that displayed mannequins of Cave Men and Dinosaurs.
For all they knew back then, "Adam and Eve" could have been Neanderthals!

So these days, what's the Big Fucking Deal???:shrug:

Oh I know, it's that "Born Again" Fundamentalist Faux-Christian Cult Movement that came about around late 60's early 70's from an Acid Trip.:sarcasm: Those people are over-rigid Nut-Cases.:crazy:

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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 11:18 PM
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114. Actually, Catholics are exempt
from the madness of creationism. Most Catholics believe in evolution, and explain it as God's way of creating the universe. They have no qualms about the age of the planet and everything else. It's one of the reasons that most Catholics tend to hate fundies.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 06:45 PM
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99. Sure why not? When you don't apply the facts you can do whatever
you want! Adam riding on a dino? Sure! Why not! :rofl:
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 07:26 PM
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103. I'd pay to see the statue of the Christian's three-headed God though. I always
Edited on Mon Jan-15-07 07:27 PM by VegasWolf
thought that the head of the Holy Ghost would look a bit like Bush wearing glasses and with a little hat with a whirly-thing on top of it.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 08:31 PM
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105. I'm all for it but ONLY if the dinosaurs get to eat the people.
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 09:44 PM
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107. I recall something on this a little while back
and laughed then, as I do now. Except that it really is both scary and sad:

It's sad because people in the USA, who are supposed to be among the most educated countries, are believing in something as ludicrous as a literal version of Genesis, and scary because some of these people are in positions of importance and influence.

If we continue to allow these people to continue this farce, the US will continue to lose any credibility as far as the future is concerned, in areas of technology, education and science in general. We're already the butt of many jokes in other countries, and I think that these rubes who are so completely ignorant and unwilling to accept a more rational explanation of the beginnings of the world are in a large part to blame. It's one of the reasons I have so much contempt for those on the religious right.
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ThsMchneKilsFascists Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 09:50 PM
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109. Is there a flat-earth exhibit as well?
How about a model of the sun orbiting the earth?
:rofl:
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 09:59 PM
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110. Just wait until I open my competing creation science museum.
It's gonna be fuckin' rad:



...And lo, the Flying Spaghetti Monster brought forth Venus on a giant platypus, while the cherubs listened to swing and drank fine whiskey....
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 12:12 AM
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116. I love it!
Build it right across the street from the other place.
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 07:13 PM
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142. I wonder if this will be the featured science film?
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 12:14 AM
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117. And the whole museum only took six days to build!
buh dum psssht

thank you thank you very much

I'll be hear all week

try the veal
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 08:05 PM
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143. God could have built it in that time.
You heathen!
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Raydawg1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 12:33 AM
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118. Hey, the dumber they get......the better
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 04:22 PM
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141. The dumber they get, the less likely they are to pass on those crazy genes.
That's a good thing for humanity!

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