Cheney says U.S. wants to leave Iraq "with honour

[maddezmom]

TOKYO (Reuters) - U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney said on Wednesday the United States wants to finish its mission in Iraq and "return with honour", despite the war's growing unpopularity at home and doubts among U.S. allies.

Cheney's visit to Tokyo comes just weeks after Japan's defence minister said starting the Iraq war was a mistake and its foreign minister called the U.S. occupation strategy "immature".

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In a speech delivered aboard the USS Kitty Hawk aircraft carrier at Yokosuka Navy Base near Tokyo, Cheny said: "We know that terrorist attacks are not caused by the use of strength, they are invited by the perception of weakness."

"We know that if we leave Iraq before the mission is completed, the enemy is going to come after us. And I want you to know that the American people will not support a policy of retreat," he added.



more:http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/articlenews.aspx?type=worldNews&storyid=2007-02-21T055343Z_01_T156764_RTRUKOC_0_UK-JAPAN-USA-CHENEY.xml

Cheney, in Japan, Tells Sailors Americans Don't Back `Retreat'
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The vice president arrived yesterday at the U.S. embassy in Tokyo to a protester blaring ``Yankee go home'' from a mobile loudspeaker nearby. His visit comes less than three weeks after Japanese Foreign Minister Taro Aso called U.S. policy in Iraq ``naive.'' Last month, Defense Minister Fumio Kyuma said Bush made a ``mistake'' in starting the war.

~snip~

At home, Cheney's negative approval ratings is close to record high, a recent poll showed. Sixty-seven percent of respondents in a Feb. 2-5 Harris Poll of 1,003 adults said he was doing a fair to poor job, up from 64 percent in a September survey.

``If the war continues to go poorly, his views will certainly be repudiated since he has been such a strong advocate,'' said Robert Hogan, a political science professor at Louisiana State University, in Baton Rouge. ``But to a large extent this has already happened and I am not certain his stature in the minds of Americans can sink much lower.''

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601080&sid=arZANvbyJgU4

No Peace, No Honor: Nixon, Kissinger, and Betrayal in Vietnam
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/style/longterm/books/chap1/nopeacenohonor.htm


He gets more delusional every minute

[Erika]

1. Vietnam anyone?

Got a letter from my D.C. rep telling me that this wasn't like Vietnam because our national security wasn't affected if we withdrew from Vietnam.

I called and said how about the domino theory? The propoganda was "if we don't fight them in Vietnam, they'll be here"

He was your normal GOP chickenhawk who had other priorities than fight in Vietnam.

[IndianaGreen]

44. Like Cheney, Nixon often spoke of peace with honor

True honor demands that Bush and Cheney commit hari kiri. Ritual suicide is the only way for them to redeem honor.

[Bonobo]

2. Asshole. Some advisor told him the "save face" argument would "play" in Japan.

So he's testing it out. Save face, hah.

When Saddam went out like a man, he took with him the very last chance they had for that.

Bet they wish they had him back. A Sunni who can keep the whole country in line.

What a monumental mistake it was taking him out.

[The Magistrate]

3. Ah, 'Peace With Honor', Ma'am: Now That Takes Me Back....

[EFerrari]

5. Yes, It's like revisiting a beloved train wreck. n/t

[Eugene]

4. Yipe! Didn't Richard Nixon promise "peace with honor" in Vietnam?

That settles it, if there was any remaining doubts.
The U.S. will never leave Iraq as long as Bush & Co.
are in charge.

Honor? Dick Cheney does not know the meaning of the word.

[maddezmom]

6. he sure did, here is a link for anyone interested

http://www.watergate.info/nixon/73-01-23_vietnam.shtml

and a good background article:

No Peace, No Honor: Nixon, Kissinger, and Betrayal in Vietnam
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/style/longterm/books/chap1/nopeacenohonor.htm

[EFerrari]

7. Maybe the Shooter is hoping that if he gets a dog and buys his wife a wool coat

he can stay out of the pen.

[The Magistrate]

9. A Nice Republican Cloth Coat, Ma'am

Oh, the hits just keep on coming....

[EFerrari]

10. Maybe somewhere in a DC basement, an insider is spilling his guts.

One can always hope.

Always good to read you, Sir.

[saigon68]

31. AH Yes Peace with Honor

Attempt to check into the VA with a raging case of PTSD and see how your ass gets kicked a "SECOND TIME"

[Kagemusha]

8. Daily Show had it right. Exit strategy: US troops leave Iraq, enter Iran.

That's the leaving with honor that Cheney must dream of.

[smb5850]

11. what is really scary

Besides the obvious parallels to VietNam there is another part of this story that scares the S**T out of me: given the track record of the both Bush and Cheney I shutter to think at what they define as "leaving with honor".

[EFerrari]

13. Welcome to DU, smb5850. Yes, in English that would translate to

staying with impunity. I think you're right.

[krispos42]

53. "leaving with honor"

[global1]

12. Pieces With Honor - Kurdistan, Sunistan and Sheistan......nt

[anitar1]

14. Spoken by one who has no honor.n/t

[burrowowl]

15. HONOR!

CHENEY? BU$HCO?
HONOR ... I don't think they know what HONOR or DUTY mean.
CHENEY, BU$HCO and HONOR in the same breath does not make sense!

[Xipe Totec]

16. Mr Cheney, can we defer this discussion? Maybe five times?

Once for every time you dodged the draft?

[youngdem]

17. Vietnam Redux.

Ya know, you hear the saying about history being doomed to repeat itself should we not learn from it, and I'll be damned - here we are.

[zanne]

18. "With honor"...

Translation: "When I leave office".

[LynnTheDem]

19. US didn't enter Iraq with any "honor".

US isn't going to exit Iraq with any "honor".

War of agression, "preemptive war", is "the supreme crime".

[Joe Chi Minh]

51. Absolutely spot on. Mass murder on the grandest scale.

[City Lights]

20. Too late for that, Dick of Death!

How many more will die so you can "leave with honor?" :cry: :mad: :grr: :argh:

[saigon68]

33. This sums up treating the Iraqis with HONOR

[gratuitous]

36. Considering we went into Iraq based on lies

It's hard to see where we might conjure up some "honor" after perpetrating acts like those shown in that photo. All I see is shame, degradation, humiliation and dehumanization. Not for the poor schmuck standing on the box, but for the people who put him on that box, along with their commanders and their financiers (we the taxpayers).

[saigon68]

47. That Truly sums it up

Its shameful

[Massachusetts]

21. cheney and the word HONOUR should never be used in the same sentence.

[Nickster]

22. Again, the BFEE shows their utter lack of understanding of the core issues that got us into this

situation.

"We know that terrorist attacks are not caused by the use of strength, they are invited by the perception of weakness."

Actually, Deadeye, if you understood anything about the Muslim faith that you've mustered a crusade against, you'd understand that they feel they are on a defensive jihad. They are attacking us exactly because of your misguided use of strength.

[Amonester]

45. Actually, darth understood many things about it some 15 years

ago. And something tells me that he still does... but he thinks we don't... and that we won't (or shouldn't) notice...

http://www.defenselink.mil/specials/secdef_histories/bios/cheney.htm

"Cheney thought that if the campaign continued, the invading force probably would get bogged down and suffer many casualties."

http://www.defenselink.mil/specials/secdef_histories/bios/cheney.htm

:puke: darth and honour R opposite in their meaning

[donheld]

23. Bush/Cheney have done NOTHING with Honor.

That's not going to change at all. They have done much to dishonor Iraq, dishonor America, dishonor the constitution... where does it end. They dishonor everything they get near.

[Jawja]

24. Well, it appears that

Cheney has slithered out of his hole for the purpose of bolstering the propaganda and lies surrounding the ziocon imperialistic wet dream.

[Solly Mack]

25. Honor in Iraq? Silk purse from a sow's ear

[The Backlash Cometh]

26. Throw Cheney off the train. Honor left the station the minute he boarded.

[freeplessinseattle]

27. That ship has sailed, Dicko. you wouldn't know honor if

glowed neon

[BigDDem]

28. When he became VP

"honour", was in it's last throes.

[seafan]

29. James Ridgeway: Bush on Iraq Surge: A Kissinger Ploy?

These guys only have one playbook. Viet Nam redux. Same players. Same language. Same horrific failure.


James Ridgeway: Bush on Iraq Surge: A Kissinger Ploy?

[MilesColtrane]

30. " I want you to know that the American people will not support a policy of retreat,"

The traitorous, evil cyborg is lying to the troops again.

[mopinko]

32. no, no, you all have it wrong.

he is sucking up all the honor in the united states, all the honor of our brave men and women in the services, sucking into a special honor containment unit. he inhales this honor when he cannot find any blood to suck.

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

34. He meant to say "with all their oil".

Which ain't gonna happen.

:shrug:

The man has no concept of what the word HONOR really means.

[Javaman]

35. So dickhead is going around with hat in hand to Japan and Australia

for more troops because Britain has finally gotten a clue and is pulling out.

Now he's trying to sucker these two nations into sending more troops so we can have a graceful exit.

Can someone just kick him in the nuts already?

[keroro gunsou]

37. does this mean...

honor, when translated from dick-speak, means oil?

just wondering.

[EVDebs]

38. That's why we went after those Quakers, who posted about 'Permanent Bases' in Iraq

http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=5170

""...the NSA's United States Signals Intelligence Directive 18 strictly prohibits the interception or collection of information about "U.S. persons, entities, corporations or organizations" without explicit written permission from the Attorney General.""

So, intentionally they've gone after a nonviolent group for what purpose ?

This is why:


If the U.S. is ultimately leaving Iraq, why is the military building 'permanent' bases?
http://www.fcnl.org/iraq/bases.htm

[alfredo]

39. Too fucking late for that asshole. What honor we had died in

Abu Ghraib.

Leave Iraq now.

[Lisa]

40. "with honor" -- does that mean he's quitting?

Because that would be the honorable thing to ... oh, wait, this is Dick Cheney we're talking about here. In that case, forget it.

[geiger]

41. spoken by a man with NO honor, who has DIShonored his country and oath....

He has no shame apparently either.

[cassiepriam]

42. HONOR?? rape, torture, murder, devastation, lies, theft.

Is this man insane??

[Joe Chi Minh]

43. Does that mean just keeping the bases and control of the oil?

[happydreams]

46. Well, first, I think, you'd have to enter Iraq with honor....

and since the whole thing was based on lies that seems unlikely...unless you were gonna smuggle it across the border or something. :eyes:

[Joe Chi Minh]

50. Hilariously to the point,, happydreams! Why didn't I think of that?

[BigDDem]

48. Dick Cheney is to honor

as Mary Cheney is to bestseller.

[KansDem]

49. OK, Dick, here's Honor...

...now leave.

[krispos42]

52. Then why'd you fuck the war up, Dick?

Oopsie!

on an unrelated topic, I didn't realize the Kitty Hawk was still in service.

[donkeyotay]

54. "We know"? Is Dick speech writing again?

This:

Cheney said: "We know that terrorist attacks are not caused by the use of strength, they are invited by the perception of weakness."

"We know that if we leave Iraq before the mission is completed, the enemy is going to come after us.

Reminds me of this from Bartlett press conference trying to explain the SOTU speech:

"We know that Saddam Hussein had materials sufficient to produce more than 38,000 liters of botulism toxin; we know that Saddam Hussein had materials to produce as much as 500 tons of saran, mustard, VX nerve agents; we know that Saddam Hussein had upwards of 30,000 munitions capable of delivering chemical agents; we know that Iraq in the late 1990s had several mobile biological weapons labs; we know that in the 1990s Saddam Hussein had advanced nuclear weapons program and had a design for a nuclear weapon, was working on five different methods of enriching uranium for a bomb; and we know that Saddam Hussein had recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa.

there were a whole litany of "we knows."

So Dick, we know that when you say "we know," that sometimes you don't know dick.