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ProudToBeLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 09:08 PM
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Report: NOW to endorse Clinton's WH bid
Edited on Tue Mar-27-07 09:30 PM by ProudToBeLiberal
Source: Associated Press

NEW YORK (AP) — The political arm of NOW, the National Organization for Women, will endorse Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's presidential bid on Wednesday, according to Democratic officials familiar with the plan.

Clinton will join NOW president Kim Gandy to accept the endorsement, which will take place at Washington's Sewell-Belmont House, the historic home of the National Women's Party.

"The NOW PAC is excited to close out Women's History Month with news that's sure to energize women's rights supporters across the country," Gandy said in an e-mail statement.

Clinton, a New York senator, has made a deliberate pitch to women voters since launching her White House bid in January. Earlier this month, her campaign unveiled "Women for Hillary," an effort to recruit women voters to talk up Clinton's candidacy to other women. A separate, Web-based component targeting younger women is another part of the outreach effort.



Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2007-03-27-now-clinton_N.htm



I know that HRC has already received the support of Emily's List. Next stop, NARAL and Planned Parenthood!
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 09:17 PM
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1. Meh...
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BayCityProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 09:19 PM
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2. I don't support her
but as far as women's rights she has been on spot.
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ProudToBeLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 09:20 PM
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5. you know you like it :P
These women advocacy groups have phenomenal organizational power and GOTV operations. I would say that they are on par with unions with it comes to monetary contributions and peoplepower.

I think this gives HRC a tremendous advantage and boost of taking the democratic nomination.
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BayCityProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 09:26 PM
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7. I agree with you
they got over a million women into DC for "The March For Women's Lives" and they have tons of cash. I agree they are powerful and a HUGE boost. I know many girls in their 20's who voted solely on the issue of Roe V Wade...they are not political at all but vote Dem because they are pro-choice.
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ProudToBeLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 09:32 PM
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10. You're right about having a litmus test on roe v. wade
Edited on Tue Mar-27-07 09:44 PM by ProudToBeLiberal
I would make the claim that a lot of young women personally believe that the roe v. wade issue is more important than the Iraq War. So, I don't see them having a problem in voting for HRC. HRC is pretty much has a 100 percent rating when it comes to social issues like women and reproductive rights.
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BayCityProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 09:43 PM
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14. Agreed on the Hillary is great
on women's social issues part. I think women voters will hold the right to choice and the Iraq war in about equl importance..especially those women who don't want to see their children sent there...
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 11:10 AM
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65. Of course, to vote for Hillary they also have to be "pro war," right?
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 09:36 PM
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11. I won't vote for someone just because she's a woman.
Especially if she's Hillary. I'd much prefer a genuinely progressive man to a corporatist female DLCer.
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ProudToBeLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 09:41 PM
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13. I would :)
Edited on Tue Mar-27-07 09:42 PM by ProudToBeLiberal
unless it's a Margaret Thatcher clone; however, HRC is no Thatcher.

I'm really excited of having a WOMAN elected President of the United States of America. Since I was young, I felt it was a great injustice that from our inception, we never had a female president.

It's weird though, our roles should be reversed. I'm a male and your a female :P.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 09:44 PM
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17. I also hope we elect a woman president someday.
I just don't want it to be Hillary.
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 10:12 AM
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55. Any democrat is going to protect Roe Vs. Wade!

What has Hillary done for women that stands out so much?
If you want a decent woman to be prez...support impeachment
of Bush/Cheney and get Nancy Pelosi in the White House. She
deserves to be the first woman there, not phoney Hillary. I'm
sorry, her fake southern accent was the last straw.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 11:10 AM
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66. How many Iraqi women have died because of her enabling? n/t
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 01:16 AM
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44. That is exactly what I look for, how they stand on the issues
not their gender


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ProudToBeLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 09:22 PM
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6. Thank you for electing George W. Bush in 2000 nt
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 09:20 PM
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4. DLC! DLC!
Or some other blanket indictment of Hillary.
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BayCityProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 09:28 PM
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8. I don't want another Clinton
and I didn't like most of their policies when BIll was President..so that is why I don't support her in the primary....but it seems a no brainer that NOW would endorse her..
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 09:31 PM
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9. She's not my first choice. Not even in the top three.
But come election day, I vote Democratic.
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pokercat999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 06:32 AM
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50. Me too; with clothes pin secured on my nose if the
nominee is Hill. I see no other useful choice. Too bad you can't vote AGAINST someone without voting FOR the other person, now that would be...... kewl!
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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 09:40 PM
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12. And the GOP candidate, Rudy...will win. It is only hope that we can keep Congress. eom.
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ProudToBeLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 09:43 PM
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15. eh, you're a pessimist and I'm an optimist.
I guess we look at the situation differently :).
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 09:43 PM
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16. If she gets the nomination we will NOT win the White House
It will be a shew in for another GOP moron. Too many people don't like Hillary and won't vote for her.Plus,it will give the GOPerverts all the meat they can handle to chew on. They will chew her up and spit her out. They've been gleefully doing it for the past 15 years.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 10:25 PM
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25. Hillary will not sell in the Midwest
and we will have to put all of our resources and efforts on our local Democratic candidates because Hillary will be a drag at the top of the ticket.
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Centered Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 09:10 AM
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53. Whoops
Edited on Wed Mar-28-07 09:17 AM by Centered
Thought you said middle east not midwest LOL
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 11:09 PM
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35. Boy do you have a lot to learn.
:eyes:
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 10:08 PM
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18. So Much For The White House
Hillary's OK - she's smart and tough.

But I don't think she can win.

All these endorsements will help her get the nomination (like she needs assistance) but come the general election, it won't do a darn bit of good. It will be just like 2004. After Iowa every good progressive flocked to Kerry. And it didn't help us at all in the general election.

Half of this country HATES Hillary. They hate her guts. They compare her to satan, and give the prince of darkness the edge.

It's too bad, but the best potential presidents don't always make good candidates.
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ProudToBeLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 10:15 PM
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19. there is a fundamental difference
Edited on Tue Mar-27-07 10:26 PM by ProudToBeLiberal
People, (well a sizeable amount) are genuinely excited about Hillary Clinton. Most of Kerry's support came from the electibility factor. Of course, HRC has the electibility factor, but also a large amount of people are excited about her campaign.

Remember in 2004 it was mostly about Anybody But Bush? That's why people flocked to Kerry. On the other hand I think people will flock to HRC because people will be genuinely passionate and excited.
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 10:24 PM
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24. You May Be Right
but, how long will the novelty idea of having a woman as president last? And when that wears off, people will rehash all the scandals from the 1990's all over again.

You are right about people's "Anybody But Bush" attitude not applying now. My concern with Hillary is that she isn't electable - too much baggage.

I'm so wierd when it comes to HRC. Some one bases her and I feel myself wanting to rise to her defense. Some one touts her or she comes out on top of something and I like her less.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 10:34 PM
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27. Who are all these people who are genuinely excited about Hillary?
I know a lot of Dems, and not a single person I know likes her or wants her to get the nomination. Maybe New Yorkers? Minnesota -- not so much. I just don't see great swarms of people flocking to Hillary out of genuine excitement -- they'll hold their noses and vote for her only because the Republican will be worse.
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ProudToBeLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 10:46 PM
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29. For example our own DUers, here's a link :)
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 10:50 PM
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30. OK, I counted about a dozen different names there.
Edited on Tue Mar-27-07 10:51 PM by ocelot
Ain't gonna be enough. Like I said -- of all the Dems I actually know (in person), not a single one likes Hillary. But then, that's a pretty progressive crowd.
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ProudToBeLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 10:54 PM
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31. Are you a college student?
I'm a junior college student, and most of the people support Obama. It all depends upon who you hang out with. I mean some of my socialist friends, hates every one of the candidates, including kucinich.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 10:55 PM
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33. Nope, I'm an old hippie and former anti-Vietnam war protester.
And none of my old hippie friends would give Hillary the time of day.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 11:10 PM
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36. And who really cares.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 11:31 PM
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37. Obviously not you. But I was asked.
Edited on Tue Mar-27-07 11:35 PM by ocelot
Anyhow, since you don't care, why do you even bother to tell me that you don't care?
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ProudToBeLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 12:32 AM
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40. maybe we have a generational gap? nt
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ProudToBeLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 10:55 PM
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32. btw I counted over 50.
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ElizabethDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 11:03 PM
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34. Well, I know a lot of people
I'm from Florida and I go to school in DC . . . I know a lot of folks at home who are really pumped about Hillary and I have classmates from all over the country who are excited, too. I mean, people somewhere must be supporting her if she keeps coming out on top in the polls (state-by-state polls as well as nation-wide polls). Before I was supporting Hillary, I too was wondering whether or not she had the support - but now that I'm supporting her and I talk to people about it, I find out that many other people are, too.
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electron_blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 10:59 AM
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62. This Minnesotan is excited about her. Frankly I'm happy to see so many top Dems
that I wouldn't mind seeing get the bid.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 11:13 AM
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68. No, people are genuinely excited about Obama and Kucinich.
There is a lot of "ersatz" excitement for Hillary. She has the blood of 650,000+ Iraqi civilians on her hands.
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Nedsdag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-29-07 01:33 PM
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91. I know of no one who is passionate or excited
about her campaign.

It sort of a bad inevitability like getting bad news from a doctor or a death sentence.

Many of my liberal friends feel that this election is out of their hands. It's all money and Hillary has the money.

It's sort of like Mondale's campaign 20 something years ago. Money, endorsements, but one state in the general election.
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AliceWonderland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-29-07 02:13 PM
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93. That's well put -- that's the sense I'm getting from the people I know, too.
My partner is involved in the state Democratic party, and gives his energy there. He's a yellow dog Dem all the way -- though sometimes, he jokes that a nice yellow lab would actually be a refreshing change.

His crowd sees HRC's run as all about the money. They have their favourite candidates, they will work hard for them -- but, there's no excitement about HRC and the mega-$$$ war chest, and its relation to entrenched economic/political power. They'll vote for whomever the party puts forward, but excitement about Hillary... not so much. He's got a meeting tonight -- I'll ask him how folks are feeling.

All purely anecdotal observations, of course, and I live in a pretty progressive town where a lot of folks admire Kucinich. I imagine it's a mixed bag in different parts of the country. But, based on anecdotal evidence, you're seeing what I'm seeing.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 10:19 PM
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20. Let's see, NARAL supports John Edwards while LGBTs are pissed at Hillary
Looks like we are gonna have a lot of fun this primary season!

Meanwhile, on the GOP side.... chaos reigns supreme.
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BayCityProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 10:22 PM
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21. I honestly don't see Hillary getting the nomination
a lot of union people know Bill passed NAFTA and Hillary supports it...I think there are real questions about her electability...by the time the primaries near I think we will see everyone get behind one "anti-Hillary" candidate. Just my opnion and as shocking as it sounds..I have been wrong before! :)
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 10:24 PM
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23. I don't know who the anti-Hillary candidate is going to be, but Edwards
got a leg up on Obama when Obama couldn't quite bring himself to denounce General Pace's remarks about gays. Hillary fared worst, from a LGBT point of view.
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ProudToBeLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 10:29 PM
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26. The NARALpart is a bit misleading
The former NARAL CEO Kate Michelman supports Edwards. Naral as an organization hasn't given an endorsement yet. I hope this helps :).
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 10:23 PM
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22. I don't support her, one Clinton was enough -- time for a real change!!
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 10:39 PM
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28. Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton will lead to Jeb Bush running against Hillary in 2012
Then we will have the incredibly insane Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton-Bush dynasty while people across the world wonder if Americans cannot break the habit of voting exclusively for two families to run the show.
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BayCityProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 11:45 PM
Response to Reply #28
38. maybe we can import the
Kim Jon Il family too??
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 10:04 AM
Response to Reply #22
54. Yeah!
Those 8 years of peace and prosperity were awful!
You must be delighted with the current situation.
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Nedsdag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-29-07 01:34 PM
Response to Reply #54
92. Well.
That was then, this is now.

We can't live in the past although it may have been glorious times but we must move forward.
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DanWithAngel Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 11:57 PM
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39. now that is a big surprise
who would have thought the National Org of Women would support a woman for President?
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 11:49 AM
Response to Reply #39
77. They could have stayed neutral

or waited for Al Gore-seeing his work benefits everyone. NOW seeks equality
right? So all candidates should be judged equally. This is not the case if she is
being endorsed simply because she's a woman. Yes, and what about the Iraqi
women? Do they not matter to NOW?
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 12:51 AM
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41. Fuck them
They shouldn't support a DLC corporate/war shill just because she lacks a Y chromosone.

NO HILLARY!
GO OBAMA!
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 01:01 AM
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42. Good for her. nt
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 01:15 AM
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43. so is now voting for Clinton because she is a woman, or because she is best for the country?
I know she is not best for ending the Iraq war

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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 02:10 AM
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48. I suspect she is best for the country based on issues and brains - but I am waiting on single payer
since I could be happy with any of them - and I think we really need - my grandkids need - single payer national health
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 01:25 PM
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80. I hope so, though I prefer any of the others on Iraq besides Clinton
I agree with you on single payer


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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 01:17 AM
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45. First quarter donation totals out soon and will tell us if Hillary is loved n/t
n/t
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 01:28 AM
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46. … by very wealthy donors who expect something in return. n/t
Edited on Wed Mar-28-07 01:29 AM by w4rma
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 02:08 AM
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47. the limits are a couple of thousand - average is much less - but only Dean has had
a campaign based on really small donations.

This is the first serious "poll" - granted it is of those that can spare the cash - but the average donation of less than a hundred is not beyond the reach of all that many.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 08:42 AM
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51. I think you'll find that the anti-Hillary candidate that emerges will also be able to do the same.nt
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 11:17 AM
Response to Reply #47
69. Only Dean? What about Kucinich? n/t
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 05:55 AM
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49. Would It Have Killed Them To Wait Until AFTER Primaries????
What kind of message does this too early endorsement send to public?

1) NOW thinks it can influence Hillary, but writes off all other Democrats (and Goddess help them if she goes down in flames, cause they sure will look like fools)

2) All other Democrats now have no incentive to pay even lip service to women's issues (which is the MOST we'd get from Hillary, thanks to this truckling under)

3) Those with bigotry in their hearts or misinformation in their heads will have another good reason to discount Hillary, the Democrats, and NOW

It is amateur, at best, and self-defeating at its worst to issue such a declaration at this time--much worse than wearing one's heart on one's sleeve. It's showing emptyheadedness.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 10:19 AM
Response to Reply #49
56. I'm now know it was right to stop donating to NOW years ago.
They have become political cronies for picking sides this early. :grr:

IMO, the odds are 10:1 that HRC's people promised MONEY. :puke:
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donco Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 09:00 AM
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52. What’s the difference between her and Giuliani other than the plumbing.?
Edited on Wed Mar-28-07 09:07 AM by donco
If “HRC” wins the Democratic nomination you can expect at the minimum of four more years of Republicans, possibly eight.

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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 10:49 AM
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59. I give up, what is it?
:toast:
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 10:52 AM
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61. The type of judges they would appoint?
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 11:20 AM
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71. Rudy is hardly a Rick Santorium. nt
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 11:25 AM
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74. He has stated that he would appoint 'Strict Constructionist' Judges To Supreme Court
That is also the same phrase with Bush used when he first ran.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 11:26 AM
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75. That is what he is saying to get the idiots on the right to vote for him, that is NOT
his record.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 12:00 PM
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79. And Bush had a record of working with Democrats as Governor of Texas
Did he continue that pattern when he moved to DC?
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 02:56 PM
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82. He didn't need to in DC, remember! We'll see what he does now after
the election. How does this help prop the inadequate Hillary up any?
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 05:27 PM
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85. LOL!
and that is, of course, the correct answer!

:toast:
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 10:45 AM
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57. This is great news.
Hillary Clinton will be our next president, IMO.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 10:48 AM
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58. I guess NOW isn't worried about children dying in Iraq. I will never vote for Hillary. Looks like
3rd party time as Hillary has way too much money and will buy the Democratic nomination.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 11:06 AM
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64. So she won't get the NACDII (National Association of Children Dying in Iraq)
Have fun with that 3rd party thing.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 11:11 AM
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67. I will. It's the great thing about being a liberal as opposed to being stuck as a one party
loyalist. I tend to vote Democrat when there is a liberal running, otherwise I vote my conscience. This is the same as voting for a pro-life Democrat, I ain't gonna do it.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 11:18 AM
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70. You didn't learn anything from the Nader 2000 experience, did you?
:shrug:
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 11:23 AM
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73. That old dog doesn't hunt anymore. I place principle first. It is my vote and
I will goddamn vote the way I want to. I will never again hold my nose and vote for the lesser of two evils. You go ahead and vote for Hillary.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 05:31 PM
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86. now that's taking a stand!
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-29-07 08:52 AM
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90. The back of the t-shirt says:
"Paid for by the Republican National Committee"
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 11:21 AM
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72. Or women dying in Iraq either - so much for NOW standing
for women's issues. Maybe they should change their name to "The Nationalist Organization for Women"? :)
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 03:40 PM
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84. "3rd party time"
If Hillary gets the nomination, which 3rd party will you go with?
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diamidue Donating Member (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 10:50 AM
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60. Who next? Code Pink?

NOW has been out there co-sponsoring events against the war with Code Pink. Code Pink has interrupted Hillary's speeches to take her to task for her war views.

I didn't realize these groups were now so far apart.

It seem that NOW has decided that putting a female in office is more important than ending the war.





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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 11:02 AM
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63. I have already stopped giving money to Emily's List because I
can't choose where it goes. Guess NOW won't get any more
of my paltry donations, either.

No DLC candidates will get my money or my shoe leather, ever.

They have enough corporate funding, and my money is better
spent on individual candidates with more progressive agendas.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 11:28 AM
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76. Meh, indeed.
Oh, she's better than any Republican, but damn. We could do better.

If she's elected, I hope she'll be more than a symbolic victory for NOW.
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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 11:50 AM
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78. This may be the perfect example of special interest politics in action, something both sides of the
spectrum have been criticized (often justifiably) for.

Is the receiving the endorsement simply because she is a woman? I hope not. I hope they have many good reasons (in their minds) that go way beyond the fact that she is a woman, otherwise it is a perfect example of single issue politics, something I believe is killing our country.

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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 02:25 PM
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81. NOW is free to waste their endorsement as they see fit.
I still will not support Clinton. I strongly disagree with her less-than-liberal stances on some important issues.

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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 03:13 PM
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83. Edwards' advisor Kate Michelman is a former head of NARAL.
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entanglement Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 10:50 PM
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87. Inevitable, given that NOW's leftist agenda is, at best, incomplete
They are definitely a progressive organization, but the mere fact that Hillary is the first woman to run for President shouldn't have persuaded them to overlook her right wing stance on a whole raft of issues. This mis-step is a consequence of their myopic focus on a small subset of progressive issues and obliviousness of everything else in the leftist sphere.
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OKthatsIT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-29-07 01:08 AM
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88. N.O.W. IS CENTRIST - GLOBALIST - BANKER FUNDED
Hillary is perfect!
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-29-07 02:00 AM
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89. In really "good" company
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