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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 10:19 PM
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Massive security contractor faces growing protest in rural California town over 842-acre base
Source: RAW STORY


SAN DIEGO -- Potrero, California boasts a broad swath of meadowland that currently houses derelict chicken coops. Surrounded by the Cleveland National Forest, the property boasts a former chicken ranch and includes an environmentally sensitive, protected agricultural preserve southeast of San Diego.

But if private security contractor Blackwater USA gets its way, this 850-strong community will soon host an 824-acre military training base, replacing the erstwhile chicken ranch with fifteen firing ranges and an emergency vehicle operator’s course the length of ten football fields.

A RAW STORY investigation has already led to the removal of one lawyer connected to the project. The inquiry has also discovered that California congressman Duncan Hunter -- ranking member of the House Armed Services Committee -- is a client of the firm, Blackwater USA, a massive US security contractor in Iraq, and minutes of a planning meeting raise questions about whether Hunter was involved in lobbying for the project.

At a Feb. 8, 2007 planning meeting, Vice President for Blackwater West Brian Bonfiglio said Hunter was one of the firm's clients.


http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Massive_security_contractor_faces_growing_protest_0403.html

Read more: http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Massive_security_contractor_faces_growing_protest_0403.html



I don't normally post links to my own stories from RAWSTORY, but this is a very important issue about Blackwater trying to open a training camp in California. A meeting and protest are being planned for this Thursday, April 5 in San Diego.

Blackwater is the private contractor that raised controversy after its employees were hanged off a bridge and burned in Iraq. Waxman's committee has exposed various allegations about the company, raising serious questions about privatization of our military. The prospect of expansion by Blackwater, which already operates the world's largest private military base, is raising concerns coast-to-coast.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 10:21 PM
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1. We need to stop these capitalistic warmongers.
I wish I could be there.
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 10:37 PM
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5. The Dept. of Planning & Land Use will accept written comments.
Comments on Blackwater's Notice of Preparation must be received before 4pm April 27:

Dept. of Planning & Land Use
5201 Ruffin Road, Suite B, San Diego, CA 92123

The Project # is PO6-069, R)6-019, AP 06-004
Envt. Review # is Log No. 06-02-001

To view the DPLU Notice of Preparation Document on Blackwater's project, see http://sdcounty.ca.gov/dplu/docs/PR/4-27-07/0620001-NOP.pdf

Among other things the proposal calls for 15 shooting ranges and a day-and-night driving track the length of 10 football fields amid national forest lands with golden eagles nesting nearby.

Also production of 6.5 million gallons of sewage and estimated water use of 10 million gallons a year for the first two years-in an area where residents are dependent on private wells. So apart from whether the idea of private military training companies is a good or bad idea, there are some serious land use issues at stake here as well.

That said, an ex-CIA operative told me he has serious concerns about having Blackwater establish a west-coast training camp.



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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 10:30 PM
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2. The militarization of America
Blackwater is creating a brownshirt army; mercenaries for sale to the highest bidder.
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 10:31 PM
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3. great, more mercenaries, as if that's what we need
:puke:




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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 10:32 PM
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4. Why new bases anyway
We've closed bases in other rural areas. Separate of the mercernary issue - why are they destroying more land to put in new bases when we've got acres of abandoned bases.
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 10:39 PM
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7. 2 local military bases turned Blackwater down because of environmental and other concerns,
a Blackwater spokesperson told me.

I found it odd that if their activities are too environmentally harmful for an existing military base in an industrial area, that the company would argue that such activities are suitable for land surrounded by a national forest, protected wilderness, and residential areas.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 10:38 PM
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6. Ken Starr is lead counsel for Blackwater,*'s lawyer F. Fielding was
the original blackwater lawyer. Very scary crowd.
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 10:40 PM
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8. Not surprising; BW knows the importance of well-trained hired guns.
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opusprime Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 10:42 PM
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9. A mercenary camp in San Diego?
Jesus Christ on a pogo stick.

What is wrong with these people?
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 09:10 AM
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25. Yeah, my reaction too. Why not in Texas?
With the price of real estate in California, and with the environmental issues in this proposed site, you'd think they'd put this camp in West Texas instead.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 11:13 PM
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10. Why would Blackwater be expanding now?
They should be worried about going out of business in 08. Does anyone think a Democratic administration has any need for a RW Fundy mercenary group?

Lots of possibilities here, all of which are scary as hell.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 11:15 PM
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11. exactly. halliburton already took a cue....
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 11:19 PM
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13. The Army asked Halliburton to give back millions in overcharges to taxpayers....
Guess what other company was at the bottom layer of that four-tiered bilking arrangement?

Yep, Blackwater. Each company padded the bill for security services, with Halliburton pocketing the lion's share paid for by the U.S. government.
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 11:17 PM
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12. Blackwater is going after domestic contracts for border security & natural disaster patrols
a la what they did in New Orleans after Katrina. In CA, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger is eager to hand off earthquake and border security functions to private companies like Blackwater.

As some here have suggested, of course, there could be motives beyond pure profit to having private military forces from a company run by a religious evangelical supporter of the GOP and Bush in particular.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 11:28 PM
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14. Maybe they're not worried because they know the elections will be cancelled.
Maybe it'll be their job to make it stick.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 09:48 AM
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27. I think you answered your own question...
out of business in 08...expanding in U.S....

The Dems have no need for mercs but the repukes do...

Stay tuned things are going to get weird in the next 2-3 years. Keep a watchful eye on Mexico when it's Cantrall field finally collapses.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 11:31 PM
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15. reading people's posts here,
Edited on Tue Apr-03-07 11:32 PM by truedelphi
it seems this is not only an important local issue - it is everyone's issue.

Do we need to have mercenary camps in the USA? Should we have mercenary camps in the USA?
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 11:46 PM
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16. I think Blackwater is Hq'd in Virginia, so there's a training camp there
and there are several other companies. Custer Battles is one, I think. They tend to keep a low profile. Blackwater is probably the largest, but NOT the only.

I think these "private armies" are very serious and very frightening developments.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 03:47 AM
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19. i think BW HQ is in NC. custer battles' name cracks me up,
but the whole mercenary thing should be squashed.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 05:03 AM
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21. NC
http://www.blackwaterusa.com/

Blackwater USA is the most comprehensive professional military, law enforcement, security, peacekeeping, and stability operations company in the world.

Blackwater USA comprises nine separate business units to offer the most comprehensive professional security, peacekeeping, and stability operations company in the world.


VISION
To support security, peace, freedom, and democracy everywhere.

MISSION
To support national and international security policies that protect those who are defenseless and provide a free voice for all with a dedication to providing ethical, efficient, and effective turnkey solutions that positively impact the lives of those still caught in desperate times.

Blackwater is committed to the foot soldiers -- the men and women who stand on the frontlines of the global war on terror and who believe in a peaceful future for their communities and nations. Whether serving in or out of uniform, Blackwater is committed to providing these men and women with the very best in training and tactical support to ensure they are fully prepared to meet current and future global security challenges.



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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 01:32 AM
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18. I shudder thinking about all the BW ops returning from Iraq
A place where they could kill anything and everything without regard to any law whatsoever.

They'll be coming home with some pretty whacked out minds and apparently expanded facilities from coast to coast.
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 04:13 AM
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20. Ain't that some scary shit?
Future hurricane victims beware . . .
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 12:48 AM
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17. I hope the protest is strong and loud
Duncan Hunter is bad news in my book..
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 05:16 AM
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22. Duncan Hunter is a client... what does an individual hire
Blackwater to do? The story mentions twice that Hunter is a client -but offers no clue as to what services Hunter has hired blackwater to provide. I find it curious.
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 10:29 AM
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28. Good question, but Hunter wouldn't reply to messages
requesting an interview. It would be nice if some reporter on the campaign trail would ask him about this.
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 10:29 AM
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29. mods - delete please, dupe
Edited on Wed Apr-04-07 10:34 AM by Liberty Belle
(hit the "post" key twice
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scrinmaster Donating Member (563 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 11:09 AM
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31. Bodyguards?
That seems the most likely scenario.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 05:31 AM
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23. Brownshirt home bases...there will be more of them
These Loyal Bushie Brownshirts will have to find a place where they can regroup and refit after clashes with Loyal Americans.

Don't kid yourselves. Operations Endgame is still on, in spite of the fact that Loyal Americans are (politically) fighting back against Loyal Bushies.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 08:48 AM
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24. Outrageous how they wreck our National Guard with their goddamned war, then
offer their services in replacement--at a highly inflated price--after having already thoroughly looted the federal treasury. Lord, this makes me mad! Doctors and firefighters and paramedics dying in Iraq--conscripted right out of our communities, and paid a pittance compared to Blackwater mercenaries--their lives and careers and services to us destroyed--and sent back for multiple tours, to the point of insanity, and some now suffering lifelong injuries--and these rightwing bastards now want MORE profit from it all.

Compare the Blackwater Mercenary School to the egalitarian effort of the "Greatest Generation" in transforming San Diego into a navy base in WW II. They were all in it together, for the common good. It was a US government-funded, American, patriotic, DEMOCRATIC enterprise. For all its military culture--which individual sailors and other citizens may or may not care for--it is OURS. It is OUR facility--our common ground. Yeah, there are always some people looking to profiteer, and developers looking to take advantage of any big government project, by building housing tracts and shopping malls, but in those days at least the war profiteering was regulated, and the housing was middle class housing meant for GIs (whose housing loans were subsidized), contributing to the creation of a strong, democratic and broadly prosperous society.

THIS thing--Blackwater--turns us into a magnified "Banana Republic." And it is, indeed, extremely worrisome, especially in the context of rightwing California politics, the Enron looting, the Schwarzenegger coup, the Dieboldization of our election system, the highly corrupt election officials in San Diego and nearby counties, the WALL against Mexico, the Bushite tagging of Americans as "the enemy" (oh, they are so right), and something that may be in the planning stages for the future: War with CHINA. Another war in the Pacific.

Schwarzenegger was put in place in the most unusual election we've ever had in California--the first big Diebold election--the recall (125 candidates on the ballot--easy pickins for high speed, "trade secret" vote counting)--after a meeting with Ken Lay, George Schultz and other reps of the Bushite western billionaire club--in May 2001, in Los Angeles (exposed by Greg Palast). At that time, part of the problem was Enron's theft of $9 billion from California (and $80 billion total from Texas energy corps), and efforts of the Davis administration to get some of it back. That had to be stopped. And scanning the California political landscape now, there are Prop. 13 (was a means of securing extremely low land taxes for vast oil giant rice farming and other lucrative corporate projects, by selling the "property tax" issue as protection of the homes of the elderly), redistricting (a particular Schwarzenegger goal--to get it out of the hands of the Democratic legislature), direction and probably looting of the state pension system, expansion of the "prison industrial complex," the busting of uppity unions (all except the prison guards' & cops unions--but their day may come)--especially the teachers and nurses--to destroy public education, and also to further loot the health care system, controls over the ever-growing Hispanic vote (a whole topic in itself, involving the Diebold shill who heads Los Angeles elections--Connie McCormack), and the corruption/collusion of the state Democratic Party leadership (also another whole topic).

The Bush Cartel has a Plan for California, for sure. I first started seeing its outlines when our good Sec of State, Kevin Shelley, was "swift-boated" out of office on entirely bogus corruption charges, just after the 2004 election. (Shelley had sued Diebold, decertified their touchscreens and demanded to see their source code, six months prior to the 2004 election.) Diebold is part of the Plan.* And, no doubt, a major assassination school and training ground for soldiers who have no connection to California communities (unlike, say, our National Guard) is part of it, too. Blackwater.

One of the threats that the fascists are mobilizing for is the huge democracy revolution going on in Latin America--with leftist (marjorityist) governments elected in Venezuela, Bolivia, Ecuador, Brazil, Chile, Uruguay, Argentina and Nicaragua, a huge leftist movement in Mexico that came within .05 of winning the presidency last year, and leftist movements also in Guatemala, Paraguay and Peru (likely to win future elections). These democratic ideas might float--are floating--northward. They are an enormous threat to global corporate predators--to their power and to their ungodly profiteering on everything from war and global warming to the food supply. If we were to have transparent vote counting and a democracy revolution HERE, in the U.S.--that is, in Corporate Predator headquarters--it might just lead to an equitable and peaceful world. Can't have that.**

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*(They got rid of Shelley--possibly because he was onto the recall scam, and/or the plan for '04--and installed a Diebold shill as Sec of State, appointed by Schwarzenegger--with the complicity of the state Dem leadership. He soon (and illegally) re-certified Diebold touchscreens (the machines that were kept in election officials' homes and cars, etc., in the Busby/Bilbray election--in SAN DIEGO!). Now we have a good Sec of State again--Debra Bowen--one of the miracles of the '06 election (big revolt of the grass roots Dems in Calif). And we'll see what happens next. Bowen strikes me as someone who cannot be corrupted. But that was true of Shelley as well. Yet the corporate news monopolies managed to create a completely false narrative about him. Scary is the word. Bowen recently called for a top-to-bottom review of California vote counting systems.)

**(Interesting interview of Naomi Klein on the "privatization of the state" beginning with the privatization of war...
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/04/02/1345218 )
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 09:45 AM
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26. Ahh the rise of america's own praetorian guard.
:scared:
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 10:42 AM
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30. Is Hunter a client or a representative, and can he be both?
Rhetorical question. What a goddamned nightmare the GOP has brought us. This is the greatest threat we face. Why did we privatize our military, our defense? They don't work for us.
:argh:

K&R
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 12:37 PM
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32. Now they go too far. Only CONGRESS has the right to raise an army. It is in the Constitution.
Aside from that the individual states may have militias - the National Guard. The President does not have the right to spend funds appropriated for the military on private armies. It is unconstitutional, goddammit.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 05:59 PM
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33. great article
by both Miriam (Ms. Liberty) and Muriel:)
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 01:07 AM
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35. Plus good editing from Larisa and John -
This was truly a team effort at RawStory!
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 06:40 PM
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34. Four miles from the Mexican border.
And we're not just talking about the Mexican countryside here. The valley they want to locate in, which is actually known as Round Potrero, lies almost exactly four miles from Tecate Mexico. I wonder what the Mexican government thinks about having a private mercenary camp located right on their border.

If anyone wants to see exactly where this will be located, open up Google Maps or Earth and navigate to the spot where Higway's 94 and 188 meet east of San Diego. Once you find the junction, travel NNE for a couple miles until you find a huge half-moon shaped valley with a small lake along one edge and several clusters of long white buildings. That's Round Potrero, and it's the valley that Blackwater wants to take over.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 04:27 AM
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36. morning kick
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 05:19 AM
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37. Oh My Oh My
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 08:13 AM
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38. Kick.
:kick:
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