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Rose Siding (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 07:40 AM Original message |
Warning is sounded on ethanol use |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 07:44 AM Response to Original message |
1. Annual food crops (which must be re-planted every year) are an inefficent source |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 07:47 AM Response to Original message |
2. One can't approach "decision" via one factor at a time - if electric cars should hybrid |
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DemReadingDU (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 07:52 AM Response to Original message |
3. Who sponsored the study? |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 07:55 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Not that I agree with the study, but... |
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SmokingJacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 08:19 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. I agree, but... |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 09:51 AM Response to Reply #4 |
11. How do you feel about the attitude... |
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Eugene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 08:03 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Ethanol is no magic bullet. Smog is one of the known trade-offs. |
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razzleberry (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 08:22 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. big oil hates ethanol |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 01:43 PM Response to Reply #9 |
19. true, but ethanol simply maintains another inefficient, undemocratic status quo. Centralized energy |
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Chemical Bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 02:32 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Interestingly enough... |
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razzleberry (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 03:36 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. lust for easy-petroleum-money, warps the politics of the world |
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meldroc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 08:00 AM Response to Original message |
5. IIRC, Corn-based ethanol burns more energy to make than it provides. |
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frogcycle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 08:17 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. sugar cane/beets won't grow in a lot of places corn will |
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meldroc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 12:24 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. Interesting. |
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frogcycle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 09:29 PM Response to Reply #15 |
26. yes, a comprehensive strategy will include many methods/sources |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 02:18 PM Response to Reply #7 |
21. how about fuel from invasive plants? We've got tons of the stuff just in one lake in my town |
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trogdor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 12:32 PM Response to Reply #5 |
16. Or yard waste. |
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Chemical Bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 02:13 PM Response to Reply #5 |
20. That "fact" was made possible by big oil money. |
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RedEarth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
10. The air in Los Angeles now is so polluted now I don't know how anyone lives there |
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CRH (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
12. Crops grown for he purpose of conversion to energy, ... |
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frogcycle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 09:31 PM Response to Reply #12 |
27. wrong on the generalization; right on the corn |
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benld74 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
13. WATER is also effected! |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
14. It's the population. |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 12:35 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Can any one thing go back and not alter everything else? |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 01:12 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Well, we are going to go back in a sense. |
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Chemical Bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
22. We can almost eliminate ozone now. |
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Vilis Veritas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 03:50 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Totally off topic...but, |
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MayorCandidate08 (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 07:28 AM Response to Original message |
28. One of my key issues is that we need a Ethanol plant |
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MayorCandidate08 (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 07:32 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Please let me add.... |
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